Squeelers and stupid dirty ratbirds have to be po'd
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Just pouty pouty damage control.
The point is, the Steelers were screwed over- they didn't get either one.
So, it doesn't matter which one.
I guess we'll wait for the
"The Steelers had A.Q. #1 on their draft board all along" ROF,LMAO !
Just pouty pouty damage control.
The point is, the Steelers were screwed over- they didn't get either one.
So, it doesn't matter which one.
I guess we'll wait for the
"The Steelers had A.Q. #1 on their draft board all along" ROF,LMAO !
I'm thrilled with our draft and was happy to get A.Q late in the draft. How exactly were the Steelers screwed over? Our defensive line is extremely productive but aging. We drafted Ziggy Hood a high motor, high character pass rushing defensive end at 32. We then trade our 2nd to the Broncos for two 3rds and draft a versatile corn fed lineman in Urbik out of Wisconsin and chase it with a player Mayock labeled "The fastest human being he's ever timed" and that even though it was the second fastest at the combine Mayock claimed to have clocked him at 4.28. Wallace is also high character with tremendous KR ability and slot presence. They then pick up a 6'1 200 pound physical corner in Keenan lewis who just so happens to be the best friend of Wallace. Burnett is then added who is the epitome of ball hawk and a great punt returner. We then grab Frank "THE TANK" Summers in the 5th along with a DT....and then snag Shipley? I'm stoked with the Steelers draft. Pittsburgh didn't get screwed, Pittsburgh did exactly what it does each and every year and thats drafting high value at every pick and every last player is high character, a staple of the Tomlin era. Thanks for the laugh.
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I remember hearing Todd McShay say that a scout told him, "If the game were played on skates, Ziggy Hood would be an all-pro." Not sure I'd be so happy with the pick if I were a Steeler fan.
Ziggy's got a lot of potential, but he hasn't consistently played up to his workout numbers. A guy with a 36 bench shouldn't have a rep for getting blown off the LOS.
I do like the rest of the Steelers draft, though.
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I remember hearing Todd McShay say that a scout told him, "If the game were played on skates, Ziggy Hood would be an all-pro." Not sure I'd be so happy with the pick if I were a Steeler fan.
Ziggy's got a lot of potential, but he hasn't consistently played up to his workout numbers. A guy with a 36 bench shouldn't have a rep for getting blown off the LOS.
I do like the rest of the Steelers draft, though.
Aloysius said:
I remember hearing Todd McShay say that a scout told him, "If the game were played on skates, Ziggy Hood would be an all-pro." Not sure I'd be so happy with the pick if I were a Steeler fan.Ziggy's got a lot of potential, but he hasn't consistently played up to his workout numbers. A guy with a 36 bench shouldn't have a rep for getting blown off the LOS.
And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
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We're talking about Mack here. The first round draft choice.
Your change of subject - talking about the entire dreft, isn't the point.
Unless, you think the Steelers had Hood at the top of their list, and they would
never have drafted a center or olineman.
Of course, it's all over the net that the oline was the #1 priority of the Steelers in the draft.
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Aloysius said:
I remember hearing Todd McShay say that a scout told him, "If the game were played on skates, Ziggy Hood would be an all-pro." Not sure I'd be so happy with the pick if I were a Steeler fan.Ziggy's got a lot of potential, but he hasn't consistently played up to his workout numbers. A guy with a 36 bench shouldn't have a rep for getting blown off the LOS.
And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Yes, the Steelers have a good track record. But based on your logic, Stiller fans shouldn't ever have doubts about your draft choices because of that past history of success. Not sure I'd be that trusting of the front office, even if it's a good one.
And I don't think the Harrison example helps you. If Ziggy Hood takes as long as Harrison did to develop, he'll end up being the next Ryan McBean. While the Steelers have been very good at developing later round prospects into solid DE's, the Hood pick breaks from that mold. He'll be expected to contribute early on, and - based on scouts' comments and what I've seen the few times I watched Mizzou - he could struggle early on. He flashes ability, like when he spin moved everyone into silliness at the Senior Bowl, but I'm not sure he's as great a run defender as his workout numbers would indicate.
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mikeyP72 said:
Harrison had roid rage on national tv. He could of killed someone. Give me a break.You don't even have a clue what a roid rage is.
Lets ignore the cheap shot that was taken at Harrison's knee that happened right before that.
He did nothing you don't see in every hockey game. Get a grip would you? Just because you've had a team full of pussies for so long, doesn't mean the rest of the league doesn't have guys who will get in your face.
You don't even have a clue what a roid rage is.
Lets ignore the cheap shot that was taken at Harrison's knee that happened right before that.
He did nothing you don't see in every hockey game. Get a grip would you? Just because you've had a team full of pussies for so long, doesn't mean the rest of the league doesn't have guys who will get in your face.
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
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You don't even have a clue what a roid rage is.
Lets ignore the cheap shot that was taken at Harrison's knee that happened right before that.
He did nothing you don't see in every hockey game. Get a grip would you? Just because you've had a team full of pussies for so long, doesn't mean the rest of the league doesn't have guys who will get in your face.
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
Don't waste your time. Stooler fans think it's admirable to take cheap shots at guys completely out of the play. That douche is probably pounding his man-breasts in vicarious celebration for what Harrison did on that play that was half the field away from him.
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You don't even have a clue what a roid rage is.
Lets ignore the cheap shot that was taken at Harrison's knee that happened right before that.
He did nothing you don't see in every hockey game. Get a grip would you? Just because you've had a team full of pussies for so long, doesn't mean the rest of the league doesn't have guys who will get in your face.
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
Guys a douche and should have been ejected from the game for that shit. I understand that your pumped up playing the superbowl but come on! I was absolutely disgusted.
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Personally, I would love for the Browns to have that attitude. Look at that! Thats the attitude that picks off a past in the end zone and takes it back for a touchdown when it counts the most.
That's the attitude that wins defensive player of the year. Dude doesn't play nice, but either did Butkus, Lambert, Nitchke or most of the others who defined tough defense. They intimated.
And don't give me the "that guy was small" or "it was away from the play" junk. He was a player on the field that had the job of tackling the runner....and evidently, the Steeler player was NOT going to let that happen.
THAT was the attitude that Jim Brown use to run with!
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You don't even have a clue what a roid rage is.
Lets ignore the cheap shot that was taken at Harrison's knee that happened right before that.
He did nothing you don't see in every hockey game. Get a grip would you? Just because you've had a team full of pussies for so long, doesn't mean the rest of the league doesn't have guys who will get in your face.
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
"Get in your face" is not what I'd call what Harrison did....
I believe it was more like this:
Yea, stop trying to shift the blame here. If I trip you on the sidewalk, it doesn't give you the right to shoot me in the face.
Oh, and btw: We are playing football, not hockey here. Different rules, mk?
That video reminds me of a wild animal that plays with its prey before killing it.
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Aloysius said:
I remember hearing Todd McShay say that a scout told him, "If the game were played on skates, Ziggy Hood would be an all-pro." Not sure I'd be so happy with the pick if I were a Steeler fan.Ziggy's got a lot of potential, but he hasn't consistently played up to his workout numbers. A guy with a 36 bench shouldn't have a rep for getting blown off the LOS.
And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
there is only one guy I wish the Browns would of drafted off that list but that time has gone by.
Santonio Holmes
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And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
there is only one guy I wish the Browns would of drafted off that list but that time has gone by.
Santonio Holmes
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And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Since 98' Troy Edwards is the only miss.
1998 26 Faneca, Alan G LSU
1999 13 Edwards, Troy WR Louisiana Tech
2000 8 Burress, Plaxico WR Michigan State
2001 19 Hampton, Casey DT Texas [l]
2002 30 Simmons, Kendall G Auburn
2003 16 Polamalu, Troy DB USC [m]
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenQB Miami (OH)
2005 30 Miller, Heath TE Virginia
2006 25 Holmes, Santonio WR Ohio State [n]
2007 15 Timmons, Lawrence LB Florida State
2008 23 Mendenhall, Rashard RB Illinois
2009 32 Hood, Evander DT Missouri
there is only one guy I wish the Browns would of drafted off that list but that time has gone by.
Santonio Holmes
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I'm pretty sure most Brown's fans would take more than just Holmes from that list of drafts. There's been talk for over a season now about the possibility
of making Cribbs try out a safety position to see if he could perform like Polamalu or Reed. Willie Parker would have made for a good one two punch with Lewis on running plays too, one to grind it out, and one for fast break decimating runs once the D-line is worn out.
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If you wouldn't have taken Hampton and Polumlu, you don't understand the 3-4 defense.
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And how many times have the Pittsburgh Steelers and more importantly Dick Lebeau molded a player to fit the need of the team? James Harrison undrafted and cut several times. Last year defensive player of the year. Pittsburgh and the front office certainly have their reasons for drafting certain players. How many misses have they had in the last 10 years in the first round? You out of anyone here should understand the success the Steelers routinely have in the draft. I'm not at all worried about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh drafted him for a reason.
Yes, the Steelers have a good track record. But based on your logic, Stiller fans shouldn't ever have doubts about your draft choices because of that past history of success. Not sure I'd be that trusting of the front office, even if it's a good one.
And I don't think the Harrison example helps you. If Ziggy Hood takes as long as Harrison did to develop, he'll end up being the next Ryan McBean. While the Steelers have been very good at developing later round prospects into solid DE's, the Hood pick breaks from that mold. He'll be expected to contribute early on, and - based on scouts' comments and what I've seen the few times I watched Mizzou - he could struggle early on. He flashes ability, like when he spin moved everyone into silliness at the Senior Bowl, but I'm not sure he's as great a run defender as his workout numbers would indicate.
Aloysius said:
Yes, the Steelers have a good track record. But based on your logic, Stiller fans shouldn't ever have doubts about your draft choices because of that past history of success. Not sure I'd be that trusting of the front office, even if it's a good one.And I don't think the Harrison example helps you. If Ziggy Hood takes as long as Harrison did to develop, he'll end up being the next Ryan McBean. While the Steelers have been very good at developing later round prospects into solid DE's, the Hood pick breaks from that mold. He'll be expected to contribute early on, and - based on scouts' comments and what I've seen the few times I watched Mizzou - he could struggle early on. He flashes ability, like when he spin moved everyone into silliness at the Senior Bowl, but I'm not sure he's as great a run defender as his workout numbers would indicate.
Actually both our defensive line coach and LB coach said he's light years from starting as it stands and if anything he'll contribute on a situational basis. They drafted him for defensive line depth not to come in and play right away. I'm sure you've picked up on the recent Steeler trends. Timmons and Woodley didn't contribute much year one besides Woodley's playoff performance against Jacksonville. Year two it's a completely different story and neither player needed to contribute year one nor were they expected to contribute to a tremendous degree, ultimately because of the amount of talent already on the roster. Mendenhall and Sweed in my opinion will be no different and the same will likely be said about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh doesn't need immediate contribution from their rookie class so they drafted high motor, high character guys and will mold them to fit the system. I really only expect Mike Wallace, Summers and the two corners to really contribute this year but we'll see. Urbik may hit a rotation. Pittsburgh isn't expecting much from Ziggy Hood year one and they don't have to that's the point.
And Mr. T.................lol
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AdaM said:
Here's to Robiskie making Holmes look bad.Don't you mean "here is to hoping" because yes Robiskie should be a good pro he's got some catching up to do to be compared to Holmes.
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I'm pretty sure most Brown's fans would take more than just Holmes from that list of drafts. There's been talk for over a season now about the possibility
of making Cribbs try out a safety position to see if he could perform like Polamalu or Reed. Willie Parker would have made for a good one two punch with Lewis on running plays too, one to grind it out, and one for fast break decimating runs once the D-line is worn out.
There's been talk for over a season now about the possibility of making Cribbs try out a safety position
I really wish this would happen but I seriously doubt it will. The guy is such a sure tackler and head hunter on special teams that I can't help but think he could play safety and be successful..
He could still return as well.
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Aloysius said:
Yes, the Steelers have a good track record. But based on your logic, Stiller fans shouldn't ever have doubts about your draft choices because of that past history of success. Not sure I'd be that trusting of the front office, even if it's a good one.And I don't think the Harrison example helps you. If Ziggy Hood takes as long as Harrison did to develop, he'll end up being the next Ryan McBean. While the Steelers have been very good at developing later round prospects into solid DE's, the Hood pick breaks from that mold. He'll be expected to contribute early on, and - based on scouts' comments and what I've seen the few times I watched Mizzou - he could struggle early on. He flashes ability, like when he spin moved everyone into silliness at the Senior Bowl, but I'm not sure he's as great a run defender as his workout numbers would indicate.
Actually both our defensive line coach and LB coach said he's light years from starting as it stands and if anything he'll contribute on a situational basis. They drafted him for defensive line depth not to come in and play right away. I'm sure you've picked up on the recent Steeler trends. Timmons and Woodley didn't contribute much year one besides Woodley's playoff performance against Jacksonville. Year two it's a completely different story and neither player needed to contribute year one nor were they expected to contribute to a tremendous degree, ultimately because of the amount of talent already on the roster. Mendenhall and Sweed in my opinion will be no different and the same will likely be said about Ziggy Hood. Pittsburgh doesn't need immediate contribution from their rookie class so they drafted high motor, high character guys and will mold them to fit the system. I really only expect Mike Wallace, Summers and the two corners to really contribute this year but we'll see. Urbik may hit a rotation. Pittsburgh isn't expecting much from Ziggy Hood year one and they don't have to that's the point.
And Mr. T.................lol
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Since Washington left Wallace fell into the perfect situation.
Even though he's a big guy I expected Sweed to get more playing time than Wallace. How does Dallas Baker look?
I think with the drafting of Wallace that Baker is either going to be camp fodder or a practice squad guru. I guess we'll find out but Bakers involvement has been minimal since he was first signed. As far as Sweed is concerned I 100% expect him to play more than Wallace and hope that he's all that he was cracked up to be coming out of Texas. I think if he get his confidence up he's going to be a dangerous, dangerous man. He's proven he can get open he just needs to haul in the pass and I think he will this season.
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