Ben Roethlisberger Considering Retirement from Raping
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@boo-radley said:
The 31 million signing bonus is fully guaranteed and already in Bens bank account. When a player signs with a team in the NFL he is looking for the largest signing bonus possible because they are guaranteed in case of injury. The 31 million signing bonus is the only real number right now. Youre right on salary because that is only paid if youre on the roster.I suppose the Steelers could try to go after some of Bens signing bonus depending on how his contract is structured.
Missed the "signing" part, but still wonder if there is a clawback clause if he voluntarily leaves... as opposed to a retirement forced by injury.
Ben Roethlisberger signed a 4 year contract extension with the Steelers on March 13, 2015. Details of the contract are based primarily on a report by Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. According to Bouchette, Roethlisberger received a $31 million signing bonus. The first three years of the contract are guaranteed for injury which is where the reported $65 million in guarantees comes from. $9 million in escalators are available in the final two contract years. The new contract saved the Steelers about $1.15 million in 2015 cap space.
Regardless... what I was referring to were the balance of the $65mm in "guarantees" which he would leave on the table.
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@boo-radley said:
Ben could plead that he is too injured to continue and that the Steelers are to blame.
He has taken a pounding due to poor drafting.
Steelers were the least sacked team in the league in 2016.
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@boo-radley said:
Ben could plead that he is too injured to continue and that the Steelers are to blame.
He has taken a pounding due to poor drafting.
Poor drafting?.. Have you watched DeCastro and Villanueva lately?
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@boo-radley said:
This year, but the past few years Ben had taken a beating. He was still injured this season.
Also, BR is one of the best at shaking off people and avoiding sacks.
The "shaking off" often entails taking hits. That as much as anything may have taken its toll on him.
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Ok, so if he decides to retire, what does that do for the Browns? Not a thing. So if he does go with his decision to retire, oh well. Lets worry how the Browns are going to win games first.
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@ghoolie said:
And of course, Ghoolie brought this up before anyone.
You just did not. Hundreds if not thousands of people have begun to ask if a 35 year old QB who has taken a beating will consider retirement, and he's not even going to retire this year.
Let me guess, you also think Tom Brady may retire soon too right? Can you tell me the lottery numbers while you're at it, that foresight is stuff of legends!
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@ghoolie said:
And of course, Ghoolie brought this up before anyone.
You just did not. Hundreds if not thousands of people have begun to ask if a 35 year old QB who has taken a beating will consider retirement, and he's not even going to retire this year.
Let me guess, you also think Tom Brady may retire soon too right? Can you tell me the lottery numbers while you're at it, that foresight is stuff of legends!
@boo-radley said:
Ben could plead that he is too injured to continue and that the Steelers are to blame. He has taken a pounding due to poor drafting.
Perhaps claim that it's hurt his sex life?
You just did not. Hundreds if not thousands of people have begun to ask if a 35 year old QB who has taken a beating will consider retirement, and he's not even going to retire this year.
Let me guess, you also think Tom Brady may retire soon too right? Can you tell me the lottery numbers while you're at it, that foresight is stuff of legends!
lol... "Ghoulstrodamus"...
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It's only a matter of time before Ben Rothlisberger and Joe Flacco retire... only a matter of time. When that time comes, they had better be ready to sustain 10+ years of being taken to school by the Browns and Bengals.
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It's only a matter of time before Ben Rothlisberger and Joe Flacco retire... only a matter of time. When that time comes, they had better be ready to sustain 10+ years of being taken to school by the Browns and Bengals.
It's only a matter of time before Ben Rothlisberger and Joe Flacco retire... only a matter of time. When that time comes, they had better be ready to sustain 10+ years of being taken to school by the Browns and Bengals.
Flacco isn't that old. He is 32. But he has not taken the pounding that BR has taken in his career I don't believe. He never did the "extend the play" think that BR has done. He could have longevity into his late 30s. BR may have another 2 years, imo.
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It's only a matter of time before Ben Rothlisberger and Joe Flacco retire... only a matter of time. When that time comes, they had better be ready to sustain 10+ years of being taken to school by the Browns and Bengals.
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It's only a matter of time before Ben Rothlisberger and Joe Flacco retire... only a matter of time. When that time comes, they had better be ready to sustain 10+ years of being taken to school by the Browns and Bengals.
Flacco isn't that old. He is 32. But he has not taken the pounding that BR has taken in his career I don't believe. He never did the "extend the play" think that BR has done. He could have longevity into his late 30s. BR may have another 2 years, imo.
Flacco isn't that old. He is 32. But he has not taken the pounding that BR has taken in his career I don't believe. He never did the "extend the play" think that BR has done. He could have longevity into his late 30s. BR may have another 2 years, imo.
Ben hardly gets touched anymore. He mentioned retirement as a message to the rest of the team and the front office. He will certainly play out the rest of his contract and I wouldn't be shocked to see him sign another. Ben can be dramatic.
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Think this is his last season coming up...
Firstly, the money he would owe significantly goes down.
Likely bell gets tagged, but not likely 2 years on a row. So sign or go, big money.
AB has one more year, and he ain't giving Rooney a hometown discount...
The hitman has one more year as well...
Just don't see him playing till he's 38...This next year is their best shot at one more before the current teams construction becomes cost prohibitive.
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Good points... Ben's surrounding cast could be very determinative.
There comes an age where even if a QB (or RB or WR) is physically capable, the strain of "the load" weighs more heavily. Having the spreading the load over triplets diminished helps keep each going. Plus winning is fun... and, for those who have not noticed, aside from that Patriot roadblock the Steelers have been winning.
That said... I think the loss of either Bell or Brown would still bring Ben back one more year be it this or 2018. The Steelers have had a pretty good track record of reloading the WR and RB positions... especially WR... Coates notwithstanding. I think that promise would be enough for Ben to hang one more season for a look-see.
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Flacco isn't that old. He is 32. But he has not taken the pounding that BR has taken in his career I don't believe. He never did the "extend the play" think that BR has done. He could have longevity into his late 30s. BR may have another 2 years, imo.
Ben hardly gets touched anymore. He mentioned retirement as a message to the rest of the team and the front office. He will certainly play out the rest of his contract and I wouldn't be shocked to see him sign another. Ben can be dramatic.
Ben hardly gets touched anymore. He mentioned retirement as a message to the rest of the team and the front office. He will certainly play out the rest of his contract and I wouldn't be shocked to see him sign another. Ben can be dramatic.
I said that the Munchak coached OL has been a salve for him.
And dramatic?
He thinks he is a Mexican Soap Opera star.
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Dropped passes accounted for 119 lost yards in the Pats game.
Walking off that field I woulda said "fuck this, I quit" if I were Ben.
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Dropped passes accounted for 119 lost yards in the Pats game.
Walking off that field I woulda said "fuck this, I quit" if I were Ben.
Dropped passes accounted for 119 lost yards in the Pats game.
Walking off that field I woulda said "fuck this, I quit" if I were Ben.
More like, "Either Coates goes or I go."
Can't play in this league if you can't haul in over-the-shoulder throws. That early shot on 3rd and short was a tone setter. The later one in the endzone was your death knell.
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Is this a lot like the limp he has a tendency to invent immediately after throwing an INT?
Now he's throwing teammates not being good enough and coaches under the bus? Where was all this concern the entire time he celebrated/enjoyed hearing about the 3 B's? I've seen better QBs restructure their contracts in the past so their TEAM could add the missing ingredients within the salary cap.
Take a look at what QB is #2 on the list in the link http://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/the-10-highest-paid-players-in-the-nfl/#slide=1
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Dropped passes accounted for 119 lost yards in the Pats game.
Walking off that field I woulda said "fuck this, I quit" if I were Ben.
More like, "Either Coates goes or I go."
Can't play in this league if you can't haul in over-the-shoulder throws. That early shot on 3rd and short was a tone setter. The later one in the endzone was your death knell.
More like, "Either Coates goes or I go."
Can't play in this league if you can't haul in over-the-shoulder throws. That early shot on 3rd and short was a tone setter. The later one in the endzone was your death knell.
The other WR that dropped a pass or 2 was #83.
Of all people, Ben Rapen should know they've treated him pretty good over the years in terms of what they drafted at WR.
Meanwhile, if Jessie James brings enough speed/power to his collision with a DB - that could have been a TD/point differential that could have changed their chances to remain in the game. I saw a mock draft that places TE OJ Howard on Pitt's door step and I can't tell you how much I hate that. Not only that; but they'll probably get M. Bryant back from suspension to lessen their need for guys that can't make big plays.
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More like, "Either Coates goes or I go."
Can't play in this league if you can't haul in over-the-shoulder throws. That early shot on 3rd and short was a tone setter. The later one in the endzone was your death knell.
The other WR that dropped a pass or 2 was #83.
Of all people, Ben Rapen should know they've treated him pretty good over the years in terms of what they drafted at WR.
Meanwhile, if Jessie James brings enough speed/power to his collision with a DB - that could have been a TD/point differential that could have changed their chances to remain in the game. I saw a mock draft that places TE OJ Howard on Pitt's door step and I can't tell you how much I hate that. Not only that; but they'll probably get M. Bryant back from suspension to lessen their need for guys that can't make big plays.
Meanwhile, if Jessie James brings enough speed/power to his collision with a DB - that could have been a TD/point differential that could have changed their chances to remain in the game.
Or maybe run a QB sneak with one of the league's bigger QBs a couple feet away from paydirt?
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