Mock Draft Central
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I am not doing the math on that one!
It's easy - all you need to do is add up the values of 1 and 12, then see which two picks in between are next to each other, and then if there's change what that pick would be. So:
Harvard
(#1) 494.6 + (#12) 283.6 = 778.2
(#3) 401.3 + (#4) 376.9 = 778.2
I can't help but feel that isn't coincidence.
Cowboys chart:
(#1) 3000 + (#12) 1200 = 4200
(#2) 2600 + (#6) 1600 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#4) 1800 + (#78) 200 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#5) 1700 + (#40) 500 = 4200
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I am not doing the math on that one!
It's easy - all you need to do is add up the values of 1 and 12, then see which two picks in between are next to each other, and then if there's change what that pick would be. So:
Harvard
(#1) 494.6 + (#12) 283.6 = 778.2
(#3) 401.3 + (#4) 376.9 = 778.2
I can't help but feel that isn't coincidence.
Cowboys chart:
(#1) 3000 + (#12) 1200 = 4200
(#2) 2600 + (#6) 1600 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#4) 1800 + (#78) 200 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#5) 1700 + (#40) 500 = 4200
It's easy - all you need to do is add up the values of 1 and 12, then see which two picks in between are next to each other, and then if there's change what that pick would be. So:
Harvard
(#1) 494.6 + (#12) 283.6 = 778.2
(#3) 401.3 + (#4) 376.9 = 778.2
I can't help but feel that isn't coincidence.
Cowboys chart:
(#1) 3000 + (#12) 1200 = 4200
(#2) 2600 + (#6) 1600 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#4) 1800 + (#78) 200 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#5) 1700 + (#40) 500 = 4200
Lovely. Math. Thanks Russell Nash.
Now, who do you take with #3 and #4?
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It's easy - all you need to do is add up the values of 1 and 12, then see which two picks in between are next to each other, and then if there's change what that pick would be. So:
Harvard
(#1) 494.6 + (#12) 283.6 = 778.2
(#3) 401.3 + (#4) 376.9 = 778.2
I can't help but feel that isn't coincidence.
Cowboys chart:
(#1) 3000 + (#12) 1200 = 4200
(#2) 2600 + (#6) 1600 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#4) 1800 + (#78) 200 = 4200
or
(#3) 2200 + (#5) 1700 + (#40) 500 = 4200
Lovely. Math. Thanks Russell Nash.
Now, who do you take with #3 and #4?
Lovely. Math. Thanks Russell Nash.
Now, who do you take with #3 and #4?
If you're unlucky, Garrett and Allen go #1 and #2. If so, probably Adams and a QB. Otherwise, Garrett/Allen and Adams/QB.
I prefer #2 and #6 I think, you get Allen and then one of Adams, Hooker, Lattimore and QB.
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3 and 4 you better get Foster or Hooker.
The possibilities are endless, but it's not going to happen.
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Wow, some great posts. Wish I had time to write a response! Damn work...
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San Diego Tribune Mock Draft:
They have Browns taking:
#1 Garrett
#12 Ruben Foster
#33 Cordrea TAnkersly CB Clemson
#52 Haason Reddick OLB Temple.
Haven't heard much about this last guy.
San Diego Tribune Mock Draft:
They have Browns taking:
#1 Garrett
#12 Ruben Foster
#33 Cordrea TAnkersly CB Clemson
#52 Haason Reddick OLB Temple.
Haven't heard much about this last guy.
Reddick was recently announced as one of the top standouts in the Senior Bowl so far. He's a tweener guy that can apparently do a lot. Mayock and others were saying a ton of nice things about him. Other than that, I don't know much either.
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There's also the other option - trade down from #1 to, say, #4 or #5; then use some of that to trade up from #12 to say #6 or #7.
There's also the other option - trade down from #1 to, say, #4 or #5; then use some of that to trade up from #12 to say #6 or #7.
Now THAT'S interesting. If we did that, we'd have a zillion different ways we could go. QB and then Safety? How sick would THAT be? Trubisky and Jamal Adams, or Malik Hooker?
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San Diego Tribune Mock Draft:
They have Browns taking:
#1 Garrett
#12 Ruben Foster
#33 Cordrea TAnkersly CB Clemson
#52 Haason Reddick OLB Temple.
Haven't heard much about this last guy.
Reddick was recently announced as one of the top standouts in the Senior Bowl so far. He's a tweener guy that can apparently do a lot. Mayock and others were saying a ton of nice things about him. Other than that, I don't know much either.
That draft would rock...
Reddick was recently announced as one of the top standouts in the Senior Bowl so far. He's a tweener guy that can apparently do a lot. Mayock and others were saying a ton of nice things about him. Other than that, I don't know much either.
Not just "one of", but THE standout player by unanimous agreement between DJ and MM.
And he is like 6'1 and 230+ so it's not like he's undersized. Both saw him having great prospects at all three 4-3 LB slots and inside in a 3-4.
The kid played DE at Temple, and was a handful for every OT he drilled against, and then stood up for the LB drills like he'd been doing it his whole life... including covering TEs and RBs.
Impressive showing to say the least... can't wait to see him tomorrow.
Between Haason and Dawkins Temple is well represented.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Your score is: 10723 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): Desmond King, FS/CB, Iowa (B+)
Round 2 Pick 15 (BALT): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (
Round 5 Pick 7 (LAC): Danny Isidora, OG, Miami (Fla.) (
Round 5 Pick 32: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick (BALT)
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
Man would you look at this beauty! You've got Fournette running behind Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Pocic and Robinson with Isidora backing them up. Then you have Desmond King and Justin Evans manning the Safety positions. You have the best TE in Simpson out there who can block and catch. You get a shutdown corner in Jourdan Lewis and a MONSTER DE in Daeshon Hall! Then we clean up the draft by taking an explosive KR/PR/Scatback in Pumphrey and a possession receiver who can pick up the YAC yards in Switzer.
This would be heaven as we also secure another first round selection in next years draft from trading back!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-temple-haason-reddick-scouting-report-121616
Yes, they were talking about him - just makes plays, very, very smart,
tough, quick/fast, can become a starter at lb...
the kind of kid you can build with. Third round seems a bit high, though.
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Your score is: 10723 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (LAC): Desmond King, FS/CB, Iowa (B+)
Round 2 Pick 15 (BALT): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (
Round 5 Pick 7 (LAC): Danny Isidora, OG, Miami (Fla.) (
Round 5 Pick 32: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick (BALT)
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
Man would you look at this beauty! You've got Fournette running behind Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Pocic and Robinson with Isidora backing them up. Then you have Desmond King and Justin Evans manning the Safety positions. You have the best TE in Simpson out there who can block and catch. You get a shutdown corner in Jourdan Lewis and a MONSTER DE in Daeshon Hall! Then we clean up the draft by taking an explosive KR/PR/Scatback in Pumphrey and a possession receiver who can pick up the YAC yards in Switzer.
This would be heaven as we also secure another first round selection in next years draft from trading back!
Agree, cal, but he''s "hot".
Haasan Reddick's floor and ceiling have been raised because he has shown that his projected position change is not theoretical, but a plausible, borderline-certain, expectation of an even higher level than was envisioned.Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 5 Pick 7 (LAC): Danny Isidora, OG, Miami (Fla.) (B )My reservations about Robinson aside, you have spent four picks, three of which are prime ones, to overhaul an OL that does not need an overhaul, on players, who with one exception, will play positions they don't upgrade. The exception is Pocic at Center... and he actually looks bad at OG.
All the while you have ignored the Defensive side... and the impact players in the draft.
Gregg Williams would smother you as you slept.
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I definitely think that if we're going to be bringing in a FRANCHISE QB in the following year then we NEED to overhaul that line.
Thomas won't be around forever and we need to start to find his replacement and train him up before he actually leaves.
Bitonio has been pretty solid but he's coming off an injury.
After that, who do we have that's a lock? We have a bunch of crap shots. A bunch of hopefuls.
I don't want us to come back to where we are now and everyone be afraid of drafting our franchise QB and putting him behind a broken line. We need the best supporting cast and the best line we can get.
Getting Fournette and O.J. Howard to go with Gordon, Pryor and Coleman and a great offensive line is a recipe for success IMO.
Kessler, RG3 and McCown will love you if those are the guys behind that line this year.
I don't know where you are seeing that those guys will not be an upgrade? Robinson, outside of the off the field concerns, is touted as the BEST OL in the draft.
Pocic is a fast and furious run blocking giant and Elflein has impressed for awhile as moving to center and not missing a beat.
I did address the Defensive side of the ball as well. Firstly, I'm of the opposite opinion that our Defense isn't really that bad. They just need an offense to take some of the pressure off of them and actually control the clock and put up some points.
I did address the defense though. King and Evans will step right into the starting spots at Safety on day one and they are electric.
Jourdan Lewis is also a standout CB that can be a #2 possibly even a #1 someday.
Daeshon Hall is an excellent DE. Is he Myles Garrett? No, but I think he is close to that level and he's far far cheaper.
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Starting Lineup I'm proposing...
QB- Kessler, RG3, McCown
RB- Fournette, Crowell, Johnson, Pumphrey - what would it look like with Crowell at FB and Fournette at RB?
WR- Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins, Switzer, Hawkins
OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Pocic, Robinson, Greco, Isidora and Erving waaay back here...
TE- Howard, Barnidge, DeValve
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DL- Hall, Shelton, Bryant, Nassib, Meder,
LB- Ogbah, Collins, Davis, Kirksey,
CB- Haden, Lewis, Taylor, Calhoun
SS- Evans, Kindred
FS- King, PoyerI've bolded the players that would be taken in this draft and I think it's fairly even.
I took 4 offensive player and 4 defensive players.
I took 4 offensive lineman and fixed our issue there.
I took 9 STARTERS and fixed a lot of problems... because I didn't take any LBs this draft was a fail?
Come on bro-
9 Starters. 10 if you include Pumphrey as starting KR. 11 if you make Switzer you're starting PR.
... so in that vein, The Browns gain 11 Starters and OL depth with the 12th player.
Also, next draft we will also have 2 first rounder and 2 second rounders.... and we can do this all over again.
Next year we take the Franchise QB and the LB.
- Just a thought.
-P.S. - Personally I would take Trubisky #1 overall and trade SF a nice package to move up from 12 where they can grab Watson or Kizer or any other QB they would like while also have extra picks to build their shitty team with...
We get have Trubisky and Fournette... although I'm starting to turn on to Cook as well. I really like McCafferey too. But Fournette unless something crazy comes out, is the Prototype Franchise RB that teams covet for years....
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Agree, cal, but he''s "hot".
Haasan Reddick's floor and ceiling have been raised because he has shown that his projected position change is not theoretical, but a plausible, borderline-certain, expectation of an even higher level than was envisioned.Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 5 Pick 7 (LAC): Danny Isidora, OG, Miami (Fla.) (B )My reservations about Robinson aside, you have spent four picks, three of which are prime ones, to overhaul an OL that does not need an overhaul, on players, who with one exception, will play positions they don't upgrade. The exception is Pocic at Center... and he actually looks bad at OG.
All the while you have ignored the Defensive side... and the impact players in the draft.
Gregg Williams would smother you as you slept.
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Po...
All reasonable positions with which I simply disagree based upon my evaluations of our roster and the draft class.
- Two years ago there was another Robinson (Greg) who was touted as the best of his OL class... he wasn't. This year's version is better, but so, too, I believe, will be the version of Shon Coleman we will see.
- We have two more years of Joe under contract to replace him... and I think he's re-up. I think we may even see a restructured extension to bring money forward to 2017.
- Two years running Bito has been hurt... As a swami once said, "One is an accident, two is a coincidence, three is a trend." If Bito goes down again this year, color me done... but 'til then.
- You are casting aside demonstrated depth and versatility in Paz and Drango. Other than the Camster you don't have a swingman left on your squad... put another way, you don't have a swingman.
- You draft a one-position player, Pocic, and slot him out of position in favor of a lesser Center.
On the D-side...
- You have one blue-chip-ish pick, King, and move him to an unfamiliar position.
- You add three other nice pieces and expect impact performances.
- ... and our 2016 D was "that bad."
But always good to end on a positive note... I'd love OJH at TE.
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I don't agree with that at all. We have the first friggen pick. The last thing we need to do is reach.
Except, again, we have no clue what a "reach" is. As I said elsewhere, every pick if a risk.
And, can it not be considered that not taking a pick that you desperately need is also a "reach".
Except, again, we have no clue what a "reach" is. As I said elsewhere, every pick if a risk.
And, can it not be considered that not taking a pick that you desperately need is also a "reach".
There is no risk at all in taking Garrett. The second sentence make little sense.
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It's a no brainer. The only way I don't draft him is if I don't move down more than maybe 5-6 slots in a trade and I pick up a boat full of picks. I'd take a swap of picks, a first next year, a 2nd this year, and a 3rd next year.
I see next years QB class as better than this. Load up the assets for next draft so we can move up.
Garrett may be a no brainer, but how many times have we heard "next year's qb class is better than this one". Happens almost every year. So we take Garrett and another defensive stud, finish maybe 5-11 or 6-10, and lo and behold, there's another Andrew Luck sitting there for the taking at #1. Too bad we can't get him, because the qb needy team sitting at the pole position isn't listening to any offers.
Garrett may be a no brainer, but how many times have we heard "next year's qb class is better than this one". Happens almost every year. So we take Garrett and another defensive stud, finish maybe 5-11 or 6-10, and lo and behold, there's another Andrew Luck sitting there for the taking at #1. Too bad we can't get him, because the qb needy team sitting at the pole position isn't listening to any offers.
I don't know how many times we have heard it. Since I don't remember, it probably hasn't been that many times.
The reality is next years class does project to be better. By a lot.
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On another note, if OJ Howard is there at 12, I think I take him. Screw barnidge and Devalve. Not that I don't like them, but Howard is a beast.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
Has us going Garrett and then O line
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