Davis Webb

gftChris

@bbedward said:
Idk too early for me to judge the QB draft class - so much can change between now and the combine.

Too late, Gipper's made his mind up. Next april when people are talking about this guy in the fifth round, gipper will be asking why we're not taking him first overall.

The Gipper

@gftchris said:
Too late, Gipper's made his mind up. Next april when people are talking about this guy in the fifth round, gipper will be asking why we're not taking him first overall.

No, I just said that this guy may end better than Goff. (Even as a 5th rounder, this may be the case)

LondonBrown

@gftchris said:
Seems inaccurate - lots of the short throws the receiver had to adjust to make the catch before going for extra yards. plenty of yards left on the field.

Michael Vick then

CaineDeSoulis

Davis webb went 32/56 57% completion for 478 yds 5 TD and 2 INT. In a loss to Arizona State.

of the 2 ints he threw both were poor decision making one being a pick 6 and the other could have been. One came on short slant route that was jumped ny the defender (pick 6) the other was a slant across mid field where he failed to look off the mlb enough.

Of the 5 td 1 was a catch and run screen for 74 yds.

4 were 19 to 26 yds td passes that were absolutely beautifully thrown balls placement being his strong suit at the intermediate to long range.

Overall the completion percentage was a little low at 57% and the turnovers were decision based. But bear in mind when you basically replace running with quick ins and wr screens your going to have ints from defenders making plays. Honestly i think webb would be better suited to a more traditional prostyle offense than air raid atleast thats what his games suggest.

Puts him at over 1800 passing yards with 18 tds and 5 Ints on the year. He's being projected to break all of goffs single season records.

CaineDeSoulis

Well he was half of every receiving highlight in the senior bowl practice for the south team lets see what he does in the real game

calfoxwc

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000720245/article/nfl-exec-cals-davis-webb-has-much-better-arm-than-jared-goff

Well, he has the arm, apparently. Who knows. Ranked about 4th or 5th round. I suppose

he would be like Weeden or Anderson.

or not. Without a lot more information, ... not interested much at all.

CaineDeSoulis

Well MVP of the senior bowl is a pretty good showing. He really flourished in a pro offense. 11-16 165 yds and a TD. Also picked up a first down on 4th with his feet.

calfoxwc

doesn't sound like it. The pros are a giant step up. I wouldn't waste

a pick on him. Not even as a FA.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/davis-webb?id=2557897

WEAKNESSES Robotic decision-making. Decision on where to go with ball seems predetermined despite coverages. Needs to get better at manipulating safeties with his eyes. Inconsistent velocity to sideline causes nose of ball to dip. Drive throws sometime sail. Has slow setup in pocket with excessive pre-release steps. Cornerbacks contest too many throws due to lack of anticipation. Timing passes must come out sooner. Plagued by accuracy issues and decision-making outside the numbers on both intermediate and deep throws. Five of his 12 interceptions in 2016 were along deep sidelines due to under-throws and failure to read safety help. Touch and placement are an issue when forced to leave the pocket. Not a factor as a scrambler. SOURCES TELL US "He obviously is going to need coaching after being in those offenses at Texas Tech and Cal. I think he has enough between the ears to unlearn some of his bad habits and start to get things right. I see another Nick Foles if you give him time to develop." -- AFC area scout NFL COMPARISON Brock Osweiler BOTTOM LINE

System quarterback with more than 65 percent of his attempts coming inside of 10 yards. Webb has enough raw talent to be considered a developmental prospect, but his decision-making and accuracy issues beyond 10 yards is a big red flag that might be tough to overcome in the NFL.

CaineDeSoulis

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jake-locker?id=2495194

Well according to the same site this guy will be a future all pro QB

i'd really suggest watching tape aswell looking up the senior bowl. He made every other QB there look foolish and he still has workable issue with his footwork and dropbacks but he has just as much potential as kizer/trubisky

gumby73

don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi

Flugel

@gumby73 said:
don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi

There was an article the other day that specified we have 4 compensatory picks but 2 have already been traded leaving us with 2 comp picks in April. I believe the 2 we have left are in the 4th and 5th round but you might want to confirm that.

I share your enthusiasm Gumby! Zay Jones was fun to watch. Runs good routes and catches well with his hands like you said. If all 3 of his TDs counted (or just 2 of them) - he's the MVP of that game.

How about that Safety - Lorenzo Jerome out of St Francis? That guy produced more turnovers than Pillsbury yesterday. Speaking of St Francis, 3 turnovers in 1 game left the opponent thinking "Lighten up Francis!"

Flugel

I was really impressed with what I saw from arm strength to pocket presence to size to accuracy (especially considering how long he's worked with the receivers). That said, I've only seen a small fraction of his work. I think it was a smart move to transfer out of the CFL QB Meat Market there in the Big 12 to Cal.

The good news is he's not going to be a first round QB which places him somewhat in bargain shopper territory. The guy threw 37 TD passes last year and maintained over a 61% completion rate throughout his college career. He has weaknesses just like any other QB in this draft; but we're drafting football ahead in lieu of what's parked in the rear view mirror. He could be a very good pick for somebody. It ain't a huge haystack this year making the needle easier to find especially after it's been threaded.

wargograw

I like Webb.

gumby73

@flugel said:

How about that Safety - Lorenzo Jerome out of St Francis? That guy produced more turnovers than Pillsbury yesterday. Speaking of St Francis, 3 turnovers in 1 game left the opponent thinking "Lighten up Francis!"

Tour is your guy that had this guy early.He posted a mock that had this kid that no one knew about including me. Than the St.Francis of Jerome stock took off..#inTourSashiwetrust (get this tour2ma kid in the war room)

Flugel

@gumby73 said:
Tour is your guy that had this guy early.He posted a mock that had this kid that no one knew about including me. Than the St.Francis of Jerome stock took off..#inTourSashiwetrust (get this tour2ma kid in the war room)

Worthy of note! Looking at the game yesterday, it looks like that was 1 hell of a Tour Guide.

Mudfly

@gumby73 said:
don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi

not sure when they announce the comp picks.....but have noticed that the draft game has added them.....we are upto 13 picks now....

Looks like they are giving us a late 3rd, late 4th and late 5th.....(the 3rd will go to NE for Collins tho)

TexasAg1969

@mudfly said:

not sure when they announce the comp picks.....but have noticed that the draft game has added them.....we are upto 13 picks now....

Looks like they are giving us a late 3rd, late 4th and late 5th.....(the 3rd will go to NE for Collins tho)

Oh goody, more WRs for all!!

Flugel

@mudfly said:

not sure when they announce the comp picks.....but have noticed that the draft game has added them.....we are upto 13 picks now....

Looks like they are giving us a late 3rd, late 4th and late 5th.....(the 3rd will go to NE for Collins tho)

We also lost a 4th for something else we did, so that leaves us the late 4th and late 5th as our 2 remaining comp picks.

Tour2ma

@gumby73 said:
don't see in nfl calendar, but when is our compensatory picks finalized before draft? seen in Oct. we get 1-in 3rd...2-in 4th(no actual pick, sent to philly)...1-in 5th? Webb remains me "we already have a Kessler" maybe a better deep ball guy though. My homey WR- Zay Jones!! You draft Hand Catcher's Sashi

Last year the Comp Picks were awarded on March 11th, so look for them at least by then this year. Although I seem to remember something about doing so earlier since they are tradeable starting this go'round...

@gumby73 said:
Tour is your guy that had this guy early.He posted a mock that had this kid that no one knew about including me. Than the St.Francis of Jerome stock took off..#inTourSashiwetrust (get this tour2ma kid in the war room)

Thanks, but I don't think it was me who mentioned or mocked the St. Francis kid... my "find" was the UConn DB Obi Melifonwu who I later mocked.

Osiris

@tour2ma said:

Last year the Comp Picks were awarded on March 11th, so look for them at least by then this year. Although I seem to remember something about doing so earlier since they are tradeable starting this go'round...

Thanks, but I don't think it was me who mentioned or mocked the St. Francis kid... my "find" was the UConn DB Obi Melifonwu who I later mocked.

I will be interested to see how Obi does in combine. The son of a friend of ours went to the same sports academy with Obi.