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nazis vs Os's peaceful ottoman empire

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  • http://empires.findthedata.com/compare/20-32/Nazi-Germany-vs-Ottoman-Empire

    https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/german-connection

    yep. The Ottoman empire minister of war, Enver, was their military attache to Berlin.

    yep. the nazis. so much for Osiris's "peaceful" ottoman empire.

    "Before becoming part of the triumvirate that seized power in Turkey at the beginning of 1913, Enver, the Ottoman minister of war, served as a military attaché to Berlin. During his four-year commission Enver developed a close relationship with German Kaiser Wilhelm II.

    After the coup of 1913 that brought Enver to power, German-Ottoman military cooperation became national policy.

    In December 1913, a German mission arrived in Turkey with the task of reorganizing the Ottoman army. Officers of the German military mission assumed responsibility for the command of the Turkish army under the leadership of Enver. The German-Turkish relationship was strengthened after the agreement of a military alliance between Germany and the Ottoman Empire in August 1914."

  • "In notes written after a meeting with Young Turk leaders of the Committee of Union and Progress known as ‘Ittihad’, Max Scheubner-Richter, a German vice consul and commander of a joint German-Turkish special guerrilla force, described plans to “destroy” the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire.

    The first item on this agenda concerns the liquidation of the Armenians. Ittihad will dangle before the Allies a specter of an alleged revolution prepared by the Armenian Dashnak party. Moreover, local incidents of social unrest and acts of Armenian self defense will deliberately be provoked and inflated and will be used as pretexts to effect the deportations. Once en route, however, the convoys will be attacked and exterminated by Kurdish and Turkish brigands, and in part by gendarmes, who will be instigated for that purpose by Ittihad."
     
  • so, Osiris, your bigoted contention that the ottoman empire was a time of peace,

    even for periods of time,

    is complete bs. I wasn't trolling you over it, you were talking out of your rear end, that's what

    hard-core liberals do.

  • "From their unique position as overseers of the Ottoman army, German soldiers watched as the genocide was carried out."

  • "Some scholars suggest that Germany’s colonial experience, and its experiences during World War I and the Armenian Genocide served as models for the Nazi Holocaust. To research the relationship between the treatment of colonized Africans and genocide, see the book Exterminate All the Brutes: One Man’s Odyssey into the Heart of Darkness and the Origins of European Genocide by Sven Lindqvist."

  • So, in conclusion, Osiris, have you not known all this?

    or you emotionally knee jerked some dishonest propaganda.

    The truth shall set you free.

  • Right

    Osiris is the emotional one here

  • Right

    Osiris is the emotional one here

    @mld-woody said:

    Right

    Osiris is the emotional one here

    I knew saying that I put him on ignore would bring out the best in him. He is upset that I won't be reading his alternative facts from the Ministry of Truth. Notice how he put my screen name in the subject header so I would have to see it? Rest assured, I haven't read any of his drivel in this thread.
  • lol. that's what liberals do. They emote, and ignore the facts. Everybody on this board

    can see the truth about the ottoman empire now. When history/facts fit their

    stupidass snowflake narrative, like gw, they LOVE HISTORY and FACTS.

    But, when they don't, acedemic hell breaks loose. They hate the history and facts,

    ignore them, get all sissy pouty, and won't listen.

    Prove again that what we see about them continues. Somehow, their self-centered emotionalism

    overrides common sense.

    or, maybe talking about the ottoman empire being such a peaceful place, might bring somebody

    somewhere to Islam. World peace, you know.

    But Os wants to emotionally go with the ottoman empire being periods of "peace" while they

    were... Muslim.... and had Christian young boys as slaves for a long time, and commited

    genocide against the Armenians, committed atrocities vs other cultures, and had close

    military ties to the nazis.

    Pretty worrisome. If Germany and France had known about all this, they might not have let so

    many unvetted ones into their country. They are paying a price for it now.

  • Islam in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia

    Islam in the Ottoman Empire; Islam was the official religion of the Ottoman Empire and became more important after two seminal events: the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Arab regions of the Middle East.

  • cal isn't educated enough to realize he's equating pre nazi germany with ww2 nazi germany. The Nazi party was formed in 1920, two years after the end of ww1. I have no idea what this ottoman nonsense is about but i just thought i'd point out another one of cals points of blissful ignorance.

  • "Some scholars suggest that Germany’s colonial experience, and its experiences during World War I and the Armenian Genocide served as models for the Nazi Holocaust. To research the relationship between the treatment of colonized Africans and genocide, see the book Exterminate All the Brutes: One Man’s Odyssey into the Heart of Darkness and the Origins of European Genocide by Sven Lindqvist."

    (Germany's colonial experience) + (Germany's experiences during WWI) + (Osiris's ottoman empire's

    genocide of Armenians) = models for nazis' holocaust.

    Face it, cleve litella liberache, you aren't smart enough to smart off on these subjects. You keep

    looking like an empty rusty bucket with holes, for brains.

  • Well if you're gonna bring in colonized africa we're gonna have to start talking about the British then huh deciptiCAL? Face it, you're posting from planet CALbertron where the laws of ration and reason are different than here. You'll never fully adjust so you should just stop.

  • you are worse than ignorant. At least Osiris and Taco are smart enough

    to eventually discuss history, when they admit it proves them wrong.