Mock Draft Central
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I really am interested in Obi, though.
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Kizer will be gone by then I bet
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Don't think this one's been posted yet, but I'm quite happy with it (in part because I'm getting ready to board the Mahomes train)
http://nflmocks.com/2017/01/29/cleveland-browns-3-round-mock-draft/
1. Garrett
2. Lattimore CB - OSU
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
4. Mahomes QB - Texas Tech
5. Baker FS - Washington
It fits with my opinion that we're only a QB away on offense but not to use a top top pick on one, and fills a lot of holes with instant starters on D, seriously upgrades the secondary and DL.
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If we draft Mahomes in the second round, who would you want starting the season at QB? It'd be awesome if Mahomes grabbed the position early with superior play, but that's pretty rare. Assuming Mahomes needs time to develop, what do you see our starting QB situation looking like? Kessler? RG III? Possibly Tyrod Taylor?
Here's where I think I am with our QB debacle (at least for today, LOL). I either want one of the top three candidates, or I want Jimmy Garappolo and/or Tyrod Taylor. I wouldn't mind seeing RG III, as he isn't that expensive, and I feel his injury to begin the season was a fluke and horrible luck. I'd also be on board trading for Garopplo and NOT drafting a QB at all.
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I like how you think chris.
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1. Garrett
2. Lattimore CB - OSU
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
4. Mahomes QB - Texas Tech
5. Baker FS - Washington
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That's pretty good, Chris, except the McDowell pick. The kid doesn't
love football - imho, seems he is very talented, but attitude makes him
seriously polarizing. He's dropping down draft boards.
I'm coming around to Garrett - I have doubts about how stalwart he is
vs the run... I tend to lean towards Allen, He is a trainwreck to offenses - not
a very fast qb getter.
Personally, I would love to find a terrific lb, or OT to add at the top of the second.
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lol in my dream last night we took Marlon Humphreys #1 hahaha
Then we took Mike Williams at 12
How pissed would you guys be if that actually happened?
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Except, again, we have no clue what a "reach" is. As I said elsewhere, every pick if a risk.
And, can it not be considered that not taking a pick that you desperately need is also a "reach".
There is no risk at all in taking Garrett. The second sentence make little sense.
There is no risk at all in taking Garrett. The second sentence make little sense.
Not sure what you don't get. You need a player at a position. There is a quality player out there that position worthy of being taken. You don't take him, ergo, you have reached for that other player....even if he is equally or even higher rated.
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1: R1P1
EDGE MYLES GARRETT
TEXAS A&M
12: R1P12
LB REUBEN FOSTER
ALABAMA
33: R2P1
TE O.J. HOWARD
ALABAMA
52: R2P20
S EDDIE JACKSON
ALABAMA
65: R3P1
CB JOURDAN LEWIS
MICHIGAN
106: R4P1
C ETHAN POCIC
LSU
141: R4P36
WR MALACHI DUPRE
LSU
146: R5P1
DL TANOH KPASSAGNON
VILLANOVA
176: R5P31
QB BRADY GUSTAFSON
MONTANA
180: R5P35
RB COREY CLEMENT
WISCONSIN
186: R6P1
WR SPEEDY NOIL
TEXAS A&M
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If we draft Mahomes in the second round, who would you want starting the season at QB? It'd be awesome if Mahomes grabbed the position early with superior play, but that's pretty rare. Assuming Mahomes needs time to develop, what do you see our starting QB situation looking like? Kessler? RG III? Possibly Tyrod Taylor?
Here's where I think I am with our QB debacle (at least for today, LOL). I either want one of the top three candidates, or I want Jimmy Garappolo and/or Tyrod Taylor. I wouldn't mind seeing RG III, as he isn't that expensive, and I feel his injury to begin the season was a fluke and horrible luck. I'd also be on board trading for Garopplo and NOT drafting a QB at all.
If we draft Mahomes in the second round, who would you want starting the season at QB? It'd be awesome if Mahomes grabbed the position early with superior play, but that's pretty rare. Assuming Mahomes needs time to develop, what do you see our starting QB situation looking like? Kessler? RG III? Possibly Tyrod Taylor?
Here's where I think I am with our QB debacle (at least for today, LOL). I either want one of the top three candidates, or I want Jimmy Garappolo and/or Tyrod Taylor. I wouldn't mind seeing RG III, as he isn't that expensive, and I feel his injury to begin the season was a fluke and horrible luck. I'd also be on board trading for Garopplo and NOT drafting a QB at all.
If we draft Mahomes, I probably cut RG3. Could also cut McCown if that hasn't already happened though of the two, he'd be the one to get picked up by, say, the 49ers to back up their new QB. I don't think I want him starting day one, I think he makes too many risky decisions and would get baited into a whole lot of throws, especially against the defences within our division, but he's got a whole lot of potential. I know it's a small part, but his arm strength is phenomenal as it is, and his footwork is horrible. His pocket presence is pretty good from what I see, though he can sometimes take off a little too eagerly when he could just take a couple of steps and make a pass, but when he does take off, he keeps his eyes downfield, and is big enough (6'3", 230lbs) that he can take a hit.
That's not to say none of that applies to other QBs in this draft, but if you're going to take a guy who's got to sit and learn for a year why take him high? I understand that 'high or not at all' approach and I'm usually fully behind it, just I keep seeing more and more I like from Mahomes. If we're going to be run first, having a relatively mobile QB that can make accurate and deep throws on the run allows us to really get in to heavy play action. RG3 can do it but can't necessarily do much else.
Kessler can be the 'won't lose you games' QB to allow the team to grow into wins, and Mahomes could in a year or two come in and be the 'will win you games' QB (at which point we could also trade Kessler if he leads us to anything respectable like 7-9 or 8-8 in the meantime).
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1. Garrett
2. Lattimore CB - OSU
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
4. Mahomes QB - Texas Tech
5. Baker FS - Washington
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That's pretty good, Chris, except the McDowell pick. The kid doesn't
love football - imho, seems he is very talented, but attitude makes him
seriously polarizing. He's dropping down draft boards.
I'm coming around to Garrett - I have doubts about how stalwart he is
vs the run... I tend to lean towards Allen, He is a trainwreck to offenses - not
a very fast qb getter.
Personally, I would love to find a terrific lb, or OT to add at the top of the second.
1. Garrett
2. Lattimore CB - OSU
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
4. Mahomes QB - Texas Tech
5. Baker FS - Washington
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That's pretty good, Chris, except the McDowell pick. The kid doesn't
love football - imho, seems he is very talented, but attitude makes him
seriously polarizing. He's dropping down draft boards.
I'm coming around to Garrett - I have doubts about how stalwart he is
vs the run... I tend to lean towards Allen, He is a trainwreck to offenses - not
a very fast qb getter.
Personally, I would love to find a terrific lb, or OT to add at the top of the second.
I can take or leave McDowell of those five picks, I agree, I could happily go for a new center instead. If the rest of the draft goes like that, we're in a position to make a 'luxury' pick - OJ Howard if he falls that far, or a top linebacker like you say. OT I'm not *so* concerned about. I think besides center, our OL is actually in pretty decent shape, and to be honest with Greco the floor and Reiter/Fabiano the ceiling, center might not be all that big of a problem as it is. Another corner wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either, given Haden's reliability issues.
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Don't think this one's been posted yet, but I'm quite happy with it (in part because I'm getting ready to board the Mahomes train)
http://nflmocks.com/2017/01/29/cleveland-browns-3-round-mock-draft/
1. Garrett
2. Lattimore CB - OSU
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
4. Mahomes QB - Texas Tech
5. Baker FS - Washington
It fits with my opinion that we're only a QB away on offense but not to use a top top pick on one, and fills a lot of holes with instant starters on D, seriously upgrades the secondary and DL.
There is something seriously wrong over at Fan-Speak's sim.
Don't think this one's been posted yet, but I'm quite happy with it (in part because I'm getting ready to board the Mahomes train)
http://nflmocks.com/2017/01/29/cleveland-browns-3-round-mock-draft/
3. McDowell DT - Michigan State
The article speaks of McD starting beside Danny... I'm not sure they picked the correct side putting him at the 3-tech DT in the base 4-3.
In nickle and dime? No doubt he can slide inside, but then Danny will normally be out of there.
If we draft Mahomes, I probably cut RG3.
Not seeing us cutting our winningest, 2016 QB who only had a four-and-a-piece game audition and finished with his best two outings.
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A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
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A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
Especially considering how deep the CB class is.A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
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A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
The more I think about corner, the less I see it as a primary need. Also, the more I think about corner, the more I see it as a primary need.
Let me explain. Haden and Taylor can play inside and out to a fairly high level. Boddy Calhoun can be a great slot guy and play outside in a pinch. In those three we have a lot of flexibility to mix up defensive looks, and with a top safety (hello Mr Hooker) it could be an effective secondary.
On the flip side, Haden has been injured so much the last few yrars if you go in to the season relying on him you're a fool. Not quite Josh Gordon levels of foolishness, but still.
Solution? Use the depth of corners in this draft to get a serviceable corner in the third round or so (Jackson would make me happy), and find a safety early on (Hooker or Adams) and go from there.
Garrett
Hooker (possibly have to trade up costing a second round pick...)
Mahomes
Jackson
That'll do for a start.
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A new name on Bruglers latest at #12
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
The more I think about corner at 12 the more I dislike it. It's probably the toughest position to play in the NFL right now with the rules so they'll have their struggles, id prefer to leave CB til the later rounds.
The more I think about corner, the less I see it as a primary need. Also, the more I think about corner, the more I see it as a primary need.
Let me explain. Haden and Taylor can play inside and out to a fairly high level. Boddy Calhoun can be a great slot guy and play outside in a pinch. In those three we have a lot of flexibility to mix up defensive looks, and with a top safety (hello Mr Hooker) it could be an effective secondary.
On the flip side, Haden has been injured so much the last few yrars if you go in to the season relying on him you're a fool. Not quite Josh Gordon levels of foolishness, but still.
Solution? Use the depth of corners in this draft to get a serviceable corner in the third round or so (Jackson would make me happy), and find a safety early on (Hooker or Adams) and go from there.
Garrett
Hooker (possibly have to trade up costing a second round pick...)
Mahomes
Jackson
That'll do for a start.
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Got a little something for everybody.
You want an upgraded secondary? You want stud players on the backend taking away the deep ball? You want a playmaker that can come downhill and lay the wood? How would you feel about getting Jamal Adams at Strong Safety and Malik Hooker at Free Safety? Hmmm, could be a great tandem.
You want a RB that can threaten in all aspects of an offense? Want a bruiser who can gain the tough yards? You want a speed demon who can threaten the boundary, or one who can turn the corner and make a DB wet himself? What about a blocking capable back who is as big as a linebacker and just as strong? Well you're getting all those qualities rolled into one 3-down back... Leonard Fournette. When Fournette needs a blow we bring in maybe the most underrated RB in college, Christian McCafferey. This kid is shifty and strong, has great vision and soft hands. Would make for an exciting backfield! You would almost want them to just run the ball all game....
...In order for us to utilize that potentially lethal combo of runningbacks we'll need to upgrade our Offensive Line. I've thrown some picks at the problem but in reality I think I've solved the puzzle and maybe even overkilled the situation a little, I've set us up for a few years. Take a look at these names-
- Cam Robinson.
- Pat Elflein.
- Tyler Orlosky.
- Avery Gennesy.
- Storm Norton.
That is a new line in itself! Then we'll add in the few names that are already in the hat.. Joe Thomas, Joel Bitonio, John Greco, Shon Coleman, Drango, Cam Erving. I think there are probably a few others that I've missed but out of that brigade of Offensive Lineman we should have a hell of an O-Line. One that is both capable of punishing runs and also protecting the QB and keeping him "Tom B-Clean". They WILL open up holes in the Defense. They WILL form a iron pocket for our Quarterback to throw from...
...Because make no mistake, though now having the luxury of having the most dangerous backfield in the NFL in Fournette and McC, we also tout one of the most amazing wide receiver gangs in the business. Take a look at these names.
- Terrell Pryor.
- Josh Gordon.
- Corey Coleman.
- Hollywood Higgins, Ricardo Lewis, Jordan Peyton. Then we add a new name to the pile... Ryan Switzer. I can see Switzer taking that #4 spot.
Having such a dangerous balance at WR and RB makes it a very hard day for ANY Defense. We will be able to gouge them with the passing attack, getting chunks, big plays from the twin towers of Gordon and Pryor. Coleman is just dangerous with the ball in his hands. Fast. Slippery. Switzer is going to be that possession and YAC guy. When the defense thinks it's covered up the big three, they forgot about Switz... and when they think they got switz. BOOM! Fournette - TKO-TD. There would be NO stopping this offense.
- You have one of the best OLs in the NFL.
- You have the best rushing attack in the NFL.
- You have the most dangerous wide receiver units in the NFL.
I didn't forget your concerns about a pass rush either. But before we get to that- getting Desmond Bryant back will be huge for our Defense. Having two amazing young players in Adams and Hooker playing back we take away the big play. Re-signing Collins and getting Orchard back healthy will also help. Nassib will be farther removed from that hand injury allowing him to get back to the form we saw before that fluke injury. Haden getting healthy and coming back stronger than ever will be even more monumental when you think about the talent playing on top of him, allowing Haden to play looser. Taylor was resigned, he's showing promise to be a solid #2 CB opposite Haden.
Look at that Defense. That is pretty... and we haven't even addressed pass rusher. It's not simply a matter of getting a pass rusher. We have a lot of players that can get to the QB. It's a matter of execution and getting there. Our new DC will get the potential out of these players. Nassib, Orchard, Ogbah, Shelton, Collins, Kirksey, Bryant and others. We add a few names to this promising young defense- Jordan Willis and Daeshon Hall will have a huge impact when we surrounded them with the players we have already. We add a monster of a man in Stevie Tuikolovatu. He's 350lbs of space eating hungry. He and Shelton will be nearly 700lbs of man crashing down on the Center, the poor bastard. The pressure created up the middle only sends the offensive line into further disarray as our pass rushers fire in at the QB.And this gentlemen is just the beginning. As I have also added another first round selection in the following draft to go along with our already 2 second round picks. Giving us another 4 picks in the first two rounds. More than enough AMMO to throw at any damn QB we could want. Be it a Rookie or an established veteran. With all the pieces in place we would be at the top of the ACFN in no time and on our way to the playoffs.
What say you?
Your score is: 11119 (GRADE: B+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 12: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 18 (TENN): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20: Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 39: Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A+)
Round 4 Pick 36: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Avery Gennesy, OG, Texas A&M (B-)
Round 5 Pick 31: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A)
Round 5 Pick 34: Storm Norton, OT, Toledo (
Round 6 Pick 1: Stevie Tuikolovatu, DT, Southern California (B-)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (TENN)
2019 Round 1 Pick -
Anybody have anything else? I think that the above proposal is our answer. Any reason it wouldn't work?
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