Sheard

choco

@miktoxic said:

didn't gipson used to play safety for us? how about skrine? benjamin? mack? how many guys in SB that were browns?

drain the swamp in cleveland.

4 OTOH...

Sheard either got injured and/or lost his job. Don't care either way, mild contributor to a perennial playoff team.

Mingo...Lol

Gabriel...Bounced back after a bad 15 campaign and terrible camp in 16. Has a stud playing across from him, a Pretty good QB, and good running game. Strange he'd have a good year with shanny though...

Mack...Great player who wanted out.

So?

No one gets every move right. No. One.

Edit: Schwartz...Wanted to keep him, but agent was playing games. Can't blame a new regime for thumbing their nose at drama.

I think the list of failures would be greatly depressing, so I ain't going there

wargograw

@boo-radley said:

Do tell

I told.

miktoxic

@choco said:

No one gets every move right. No. One.

seems like you want to argue everytime i say something. fuck.

no one get's it right everytime but percentage cleveland getting it wrong is greater than every other team with .500 winning record. hell at this point i'll put money on the friign detroit lions drafting better than the browns.....and that was unheard of 15 years ago.

choco

Not arguin so much as just saying...

Why people trying to run these guys outta town already?

LBC mike

Mack is the only one I wanted to stay.

Zombo

@wargograw said:

I searched Gipson the other day along with all kinds of variations of "judge" and "Cleveland" and found nothing.

Lol, Gipper is real, I've met him at least a half dozen times, met his wife, he really is an attorney and serves as a judge/justice too.

Now, I don't know how he ended up getting into it with Boo Radley, I thought old Boo was doing a great job setting the Steelers fans straight, made my life easier. Gipper usually checks out on the weekends, and then comes in swinging Monday morning, and the trivia and surveys are now part of our fabric.

The fact that he never admits when he is wrong is part of his charm.

And he has been buddies with Westside Steve since high school.

That's the story of Gipper.

Zombo

The Cysko Kid

Gipper has mentioned his name at least 800 times on this forum, so I know that he's a real person.

wargograw

Zombo said:

Lol, Gipper is real, I've met him at least a half dozen times, met his wife, he really is an attorney and serves as a judge/justice too.

Now, I don't know how he ended up getting into it with Boo Radley, I thought old Boo was doing a great job setting the Steelers fans straight, made my life easier. Gipper usually checks out on the weekends, and then comes in swinging Monday morning, and the trivia and surveys are now part of our fabric.

The fact that he never admits when he is wrong is part of his charm.

And he has been buddies with Westside Steve since high school.

That's the story of Gipper.

Zombo

His name is not Gipson, he's not a judge, or he's some super secret judge protected from presence on the internet. Only possibilities here.

Zombo

@wargograw said:
His name is not Gipson, he's not a judge, or he's some super secret judge protected from presence on the internet. Only possibilities here.

He's an attorney. Judge is his side hustle.

Zombo

Taco918

@miktoxic said:

seems like you want to argue everytime i say something. fuck.

no one get's it right everytime but percentage cleveland getting it wrong is greater than every other team with .500 winning record. hell at this point i'll put money on the friign detroit lions drafting better than the browns.....and that was unheard of 15 years ago.

I miss the Matt Millen era.

That was fun.

Taco918

@wargograw said:

I searched Gipson the other day along with all kinds of variations of "judge" and "Cleveland" and found nothing.

Are you in legal trouble or are you done with all the foreplay and ready for the real deal?

Tour2ma

Zombo said:
He's an attorney. Judge is his side hustle.

But is it true that he has cited himself for contempt several times?

Tour2ma

OK... just remember...

Tattaglia's a pimp. It was Barzini all along.

The Gipper

@wargograw said:

I searched Gipson the other day along with all kinds of variations of "judge" and "Cleveland" and found nothing.

You wouldn't.

The Gipper

@boo-radley said:

Mingo reminds me of Vernon Gholston.

Every DL the Browns have drafted in round 1 since 1999 has been a bust. Courtney, Big Money(at least for the Browns he was a bust), Wimbley, Taylor pretty much. Hopefully, Shelton has turned that around.

The Gipper

Zombo said:

Lol, Gipper is real, I've met him at least a half dozen times, met his wife, he really is an attorney and serves as a judge/justice too.

Now, I don't know how he ended up getting into it with Boo Radley, I thought old Boo was doing a great job setting the Steelers fans straight, made my life easier. Gipper usually checks out on the weekends, and then comes in swinging Monday morning, and the trivia and surveys are now part of our fabric.

The fact that he never admits when he is wrong is part of his charm.

And he has been buddies with Westside Steve since high school.

That's the story of Gipper.

Zombo

Answers: Boo Radley was denying that the Pats and Brady did anything wrong, that they cheated and lied...which they have been adjudicated to have done. He asserted he had "alternative facts". That is why I went off on him.

And I have admitted I am wrong, many times. Fairly recently even. When I was listing those first round QBs and their "wait" times to start a game, I got a couple wrong about how many games a couple of the waited before starting...including Weeden and Griffin. I thought they waited one game, but they didn't, they missed a game in the season somewhere. Someone went all Kajagoogoo on me over the fact that I made that simple mistake.

And technically, I am a magistrate. Have done that in 5 different courts. Just one now though.

The Gipper

@the-cysko-kid said:
Gipper has mentioned his name at least 800 times on this forum, so I know that he's a real person.

You know when we had Tashaun I called him my brother from another mother.

But, that was just metaphorical, not biological.

The Gipper

@wargograw said:
His name is not Gipson, he's not a judge, or he's some super secret judge protected from presence on the internet. Only possibilities here.

You really that interested? Here it is, it is not something secretive. My name IS Thomas Gipson. My office is in Barberton....which I have referred to many times in talking about James Harrison who went to school at Coventry HS about 2 miles away, and have referred to when talking about Tom Dmitroff....GM of the Falcons, and Josh McDaniels OC of the Patriots, both born at Barberton Citizens Hospital which is about a mile away. ( I was born there as well....just in the older building, not the newer one). As of Thursday Feb. 2 (Groundhog Day) I will have been in practice for 36 years. I serve as the Magistrate in the Doylestown Mayor's Court...have been there for 17 years. In the past I was also Magistrate in Norton for 18 years and Smithville for 5. I have also filled in as a Magistrate in both Barberton and Wadsworth Municipal Courts.(no longer do these. Norton no longer has a MC, and Barberton and Wadsworth have since gone to full time Magistrates, and Smithville was further away and now a more local person handles that). All basically traffic and misdemeanor cases. These courts are all in Summit, Wayne, and Medina Counties, not Cuyahoga.

Anything else you need/want to know?

Zombo

@the-gipper said:
Answers: Boo Radley was denying that the Pats and Brady did anything wrong, that they cheated and lied...which they have been adjudicated to have done. He asserted he had "alternative facts". That is why I went off on him.

Ahhh, OK. That explains the survey "question" I couldn't wrap my head around.

Personally, I feel the Pats have pushed the edge a lot and got caught going over the edge (spygate) but there is also a "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" element to the NFL, and nothing they have done abhors me enough to consider them "cheaters" and such. They got busted, but so what? Nothing that makes me alarmed. Just trying to win football games. Falcons got caught doing something too, didn't they? The Browns would be the most pathetic of those who got caught, with the GM texting the coaches ... that was just stupid, did't give us an "edge".

Zombo

The Gipper

Zombo said:

Ahhh, OK. That explains the survey "question" I couldn't wrap my head around.

Personally, I feel the Pats have pushed the edge a lot and got caught going over the edge (spygate) but there is also a "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" element to the NFL, and nothing they have done abhors me enough to consider them "cheaters" and such. They got busted, but so what? Nothing that makes me alarmed. Just trying to win football games. Falcons got caught doing something too, didn't they? The Browns would be the most pathetic of those who got caught, with the GM texting the coaches ... that was just stupid, did't give us an "edge".

Zombo

Hell, I just heard that guy in the front office of the St. Louis Baseball Cardinals got caught hacking the files of the Houston Astros, looking for their scouting reports or some such thing. For this, the Cards lost their #1 and #2 picks in the baseball draft, and got fined a substantial amount...perhaps as much as several million dollars....and, the guy now has a lifetime ban from the MLB....and...is doing a prison sentence for it.

I get the whole principle of what you are saying: "if you ain't cheating you ain't trying" "everybody does it". OK....but for Boo etc.....just don't as a fan deny the fact of what happened when your team is caught.

Maybe everybody does do it. And the Pats don't really need to do it. They are good enough not to. And the other thing for Boo is: maybe youze guys shouldn't be mad at Goodell for doing his job.....be mad at the Pats for sucking at cheating because they keep getting caught.