NCAA National Signing Day, Feb. 1, 2017

[MLD Woody]

@wargograw said:

All great classes are dirty.

If the shoe fits

[mjp28]

wargograw, on 04 Feb 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

All great classes are dirty.

@mld-woody said:

If the shoe fits

Basically, generally it goes like this, there's a huge difference between a 5* scholar and a 5* athlete one spends a lot of time in library and can be boring the other has some potential to play football on Sunday and can come with certain "baggage".

Now if you want a perennial top 10 or in some cases top 5 athletic program you just deal with it to make the fans, boosters and major networks happy and they gladly will buy the tickets and other merchandise to keep it going...hopefully forever.

[mjp28]

@mjp28 said:

1 Alabama

5: 6 4: 18 3: 4 2: 1 322.53

2 Ohio State <--- BIG TEN lead by OSU and UM, naturally

5: 5 4: 14 3: 2 2: 0 310.97

3 Georgia <--- Georgia really?

5: 2 4: 18 3: 6 2: 0 300.98

4 USC

5: 2 4: 12 3: 10 2: 1 296.12

5 -1 Michigan

5: 2 4: 19 3: 8 2: 1 293.79

Oh and just look at the "top 5" on that list (hmmm how did Georgia sneak in there ).

And 11 of the top 48 schools are from the BIG TEN plus go up and down the top 10, 25 whatever teams and over the years you can find plenty of scandals. ....no matter which shoes you're wearing!

I have some great stories from the 60s and 70s from guys I knew and their recruiting trips and basically was wide open. Cars, money and beautiful women.

[wargograw]

@mld-woody said:

If the shoe fits

Yes, exactly.

[wargograw]

@mjp28 said:

Basically, generally it goes like this, there's a huge difference between a 5* scholar and a 5* athlete one spends a lot of time in library and can be boring the other has some potential to play football on Sunday and can come with certain "baggage".

Now if you want a perennial top 10 or in some cases top 5 athletic program you just deal with it to make the fans, boosters and major networks happy and they gladly will buy the tickets and other merchandise to keep it going...hopefully forever.

Correct. I don't look at the players as students really.

[mjp28]

@wargograw said:

Correct. I don't look at the players as students really.

Well unless you're big into the Ivy League

They don't even take invites to the D1-AA Championship Playoffs even if they qualify.

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

Well unless you're big into the Ivy League

They don't even take invites to the D1-AA Championship Playoffs even if they qualify.

I am into the Ivy League. My son's lab overlooks Cornell's football field. Go Big Red.

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

I am into the Ivy League. My son's lab overlooks Cornell's football field. Go Big Red.....]

I remember way back when I was first working in the steel mills 1969-1975 and going to college you could bet the Ivy League on the local pool sheets. I followed them for awhile back then.

Different brand of football even today.

[The Gipper]

@mjp28 said:

I remember way back when I was first working in the steel mills 1969-1975 and going to college you could bet the Ivy League on the local pool sheets. I followed them for awhile back then.

Different brand of football even today.

Can No more bets be made on Ivy League football??

Cornell had Ed Marinaro in those days. Came in very high in the Heisman voting. Don't think any Ivy Leaguer has come anywhere near since.

[mjp28]

@the-gipper said:

Can No more bets be made on Ivy League football??

Cornell had Ed Marinaro in those days. Came in very high in the Heisman voting. Don't think any Ivy Leaguer has come anywhere near since.

Maybe at some casino sportsbooks, I haven’t bet much in recent years. I checked on vegasinsider.com and they had NO lines from 2016.

The Ivy League does come out with occasional NFL drafted and FA players but isn't the national draw it was many decades ago.