Browns release QB Josh McCown, DB Tramon Williams
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I didn't count either of these guys when I starting thinking about 2017 depth charts, it was time.
Both came to us and gave tremendous effort and were shining examples of class and veteran leadership on the worst back-back years in the 70 plus years of Browns football.
Thanks for laying it all on the line, guys, I hope there are some NFL doors open for these guys, including the possibility of coaching in Cleveland.
Zombo
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Totally agree with all the thanks and well wishes for these two. Hopefully both land jobs with contenders, if they wish to continue their playing careers.
Rumor is Young Shanny wants to take Falcon backup, Matt Schaub, to SF. May be a landing spot in ATL for McC as it would leave Ryan as the only QB on their roster. Nice set up for a vet backup and a draft prospect.
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Hopefully not QB. Hoping it's Garopollo in a trade. FA DB an FA OG market is strong this year. That's where I would place my bets.Yes, now, where do they use that money?
FA QB? FA DBs?
bleacherreport.com/articles/2685348-nfl-free-agency-2017-grading-the-strength-of-each-position-class
Hopefully not QB. Hoping it's Garopollo in a trade. FA DB an FA OG market is strong this year. That's where I would place my bets.
bleacherreport.com/articles/2685348-nfl-free-agency-2017-grading-the-strength-of-each-position-class
Sure, as I have said....our #52 is as high as I would give up for JG.
But, I agree that DB may be a prime target for FAs....especially since the release of Williams.
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I understand the moves save us even more money with the cap but I was hoping we'd hang on to McCown as the veteran backup QB if we draft a QB. McCown is a true professional who knows his role on a team and wouldn't make a big scene about not getting playing time.
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@ghoolie said:
McCown is one of those guys who you wish your team never wasted the fucking time with in the first place.
Some people here would like to say the same thing about you, Ghools. Not I, but you do have your critics.
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I understand the moves save us even more money with the cap but I was hoping we'd hang on to McCown as the veteran backup QB if we draft a QB. McCown is a true professional who knows his role on a team and wouldn't make a big scene about not getting playing time.
I understand the moves save us even more money with the cap but I was hoping we'd hang on to McCown as the veteran backup QB if we draft a QB. McCown is a true professional who knows his role on a team and wouldn't make a big scene about not getting playing time.
And he may yet end up back... but not at his previous contract's price.
In addition to the cap one of the considerations good franchises do for vets that just don't fit into their plans is release them early to improve their chances of latching onto other teams. Feels like that is in play here... especially in McC's case.
Also feels like one of the plans we may have had for Josh was QB Coach. Timing of our new hire for that role could be a sign that McC is not quite ready to hang up the helmet.
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@ghoolie said:
McCown is one of those guys who you wish your team never wasted the fucking time with in the first place.
C'mon dude, give him a modicum of respect. He got murdered behind the line of players that, u know, dont matter and all.
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@ghoolie said:
McCown is one of those guys who you wish your team never wasted the fucking time with in the first place.
C'mon dude, give him a modicum of respect. He got murdered behind the line of players that, u know, dont matter and all.
C'mon dude, give him a modicum of respect. He got murdered behind the line of players that, u know, dont matter and all.
You're trying to reason with an immature, fat, smalldicked, wannabe internet sensation that couldn't run all out for 10 seconds without his enlarged, plaque infested heart stopping.
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I never liked any of the McCowns.
When Josh came here I was not enthusiastic....to say the least.
But I found a respect for him when I saw how hard and tough he played.....and the type of teammate that he is/was. He was good for us.
I didn't think that he should have been put in as starter at halftime when Kessler was doing ok......But I'm quite sure that Hue wanted Kessler throwing the ball down field and not always checking down. So Josh came in and chucked it down field like the soldier he is. Some of 'em were intercepted, the game got out of hand and we lost going away....
It's time to part however. Good luck to him.
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Thank you Josh McCown for being a great role-model. You brought class and a blue collar type of work ethic to the organization. The DawgPound salutes you.
Selfless, brave and relentless are the words that I will think of when I hear the name Josh McCown. There have been many wins and many losses in the past, it's a certainty that there will be many more of both... but your character will be remembered long after the exhilaration of victory and the melancholy of defeat.
There have been many Quarterbacks that have come this way, but Josh McCown had a little something more. He wore his heart on his sleeve and sacrificed his body for victory in vain. He was as humble as he was admirable.
Thank you Josh, best of luck from here on out.
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McCown is a tackling son of a bitch.@ghoolie said:
He got murdered because he held on the the fucking ball too long.
You know, it's funny how you fuck tards say the Browns have no talent, and yet their talent was featured in the Superbowl and other playoff games.
The Browns OL is fine. Remember, it's bolstered by Joe Fucking Thomas.
McCown may be tough, and he may be a very nice guy; what he ISN'T, is a good Quarterback. Good riddance.
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Josh speaks on his release...
Josh McCown on Browns release: They need the roster spot to get QB right
Posted by Josh Alper on February 10, 2017, 7:45 AM ESTJosh McCown said near the end of the regular season that he’d like to play another season in the NFL, but it won’t be with the Browns after they released him this week.
While McCown’s time with the Browns has been marked with injuries and losing, he said that he’s “sad about leaving just because once you’re there and you’re part of the community you want to see that team succeed.” That success probably won’t come until the Browns find themselves a franchise quarterback and McCown knows that releasing him gives them a spot to use in that pursuit.
“You need to take as many stabs at this as you can,” McCown said, via Cleveland.com. “That’s why I wasn’t as bummed out as I could’ve been when they released me. They need the roster spots to get this right and they’re committed to it.”
If they fill the spot with a trade for Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, McCown would be a fan. He said he believes Garoppolo can “carry a franchise” and has “some traits in the same mold” as Aaron Rodgers that have been boosted by years of playing with Tom Brady. He didn’t go so far as to say that the Browns should give up the first overall pick, but he definitely put himself in the Garoppolo camp on his way out of Cleveland.
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Josh speaks on his release...
Josh McCown on Browns release: They need the roster spot to get QB right
Posted by Josh Alper on February 10, 2017, 7:45 AM ESTJosh McCown said near the end of the regular season that he’d like to play another season in the NFL, but it won’t be with the Browns after they released him this week.
While McCown’s time with the Browns has been marked with injuries and losing, he said that he’s “sad about leaving just because once you’re there and you’re part of the community you want to see that team succeed.” That success probably won’t come until the Browns find themselves a franchise quarterback and McCown knows that releasing him gives them a spot to use in that pursuit.
“You need to take as many stabs at this as you can,” McCown said, via Cleveland.com. “That’s why I wasn’t as bummed out as I could’ve been when they released me. They need the roster spots to get this right and they’re committed to it.”
If they fill the spot with a trade for Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, McCown would be a fan. He said he believes Garoppolo can “carry a franchise” and has “some traits in the same mold” as Aaron Rodgers that have been boosted by years of playing with Tom Brady. He didn’t go so far as to say that the Browns should give up the first overall pick, but he definitely put himself in the Garoppolo camp on his way out of Cleveland.
Josh speaks on his release...
Josh McCown on Browns release: They need the roster spot to get QB right
Posted by Josh Alper on February 10, 2017, 7:45 AM ESTJosh McCown said near the end of the regular season that he’d like to play another season in the NFL, but it won’t be with the Browns after they released him this week.
While McCown’s time with the Browns has been marked with injuries and losing, he said that he’s “sad about leaving just because once you’re there and you’re part of the community you want to see that team succeed.” That success probably won’t come until the Browns find themselves a franchise quarterback and McCown knows that releasing him gives them a spot to use in that pursuit.
“You need to take as many stabs at this as you can,” McCown said, via Cleveland.com. “That’s why I wasn’t as bummed out as I could’ve been when they released me. They need the roster spots to get this right and they’re committed to it.”
If they fill the spot with a trade for Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, McCown would be a fan. He said he believes Garoppolo can “carry a franchise” and has “some traits in the same mold” as Aaron Rodgers that have been boosted by years of playing with Tom Brady. He didn’t go so far as to say that the Browns should give up the first overall pick, but he definitely put himself in the Garoppolo camp on his way out of Cleveland.
Welcome to Camp Jimmy G, Josh. Let Zoey pour you a cold one and let's hear some tales.
Zombo
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Not sure Zoey is McC's kind of gal...
Josh is a family man. Doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate tits with his beer.
Zombo
Maybe, he'd prefer Lacey ... we just hired her from Twin Peaks:
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My admiraton for McCown couldn't get any higher, what a high class act.
Good luck to him. Hope they find an asst coach position for him or something.
But going home to N.C. is nice this time of year....
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Zombo said:
Josh is a family man. Doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate tits with his beer.
Gotta be a T-Shirt there: "I like Tits with my beer". Catchy
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