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  • LogicIsForSquares LogicIsForSquaresL Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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    Oh I fully expect lots of news agencies to cover it. Trump as the boogie man sells well and the journalists don't have to do any research.

    An admission by our govt or a recording of the exchange (everyone is glued to their cell now) would do.

    Anecdotally, coworker said his family drove down and didn't get hassled at the border. They got the usual "are you bringing in animals, plants,.." type questions.

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      Oh I fully expect lots of news agencies to cover it. Trump as the boogie man sells well and the journalists don't have to do any research.

      An admission by our govt or a recording of the exchange (everyone is glued to their cell now) would do.

      Anecdotally, coworker said his family drove down and didn't get hassled at the border. They got the usual "are you bringing in animals, plants,.." type questions.

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      OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by
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      @logicisforsquares said:

      Oh I fully expect lots of news agencies to cover it. Trump as the boogie man sells well and the journalists don't have to do any research.

      An admission by our govt or a recording of the exchange (everyone is glued to their cell now) would do.

      Anecdotally, coworker said his family drove down and didn't get hassled at the border. They got the usual "are you bringing in animals, plants,.." type questions.

      That anecdote does nothing to invalidate the report of this Canadian woman. I also have Muslim relatives from Canada and they all say it just depends on who you get at the border. Sometimes they are cool, sometimes not.

      "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        Should wait until we hear both sides of the story. She says it's all peachy rosy and she just wanted to cross the border to cheer her son up, maybe her lock screen photo was some infidels drowning in cages.

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          Should wait until we hear both sides of the story. She says it's all peachy rosy and she just wanted to cross the border to cheer her son up, maybe her lock screen photo was some infidels drowning in cages.

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          @bbedward said:

          Should wait until we hear both sides of the story. She says it's all peachy rosy and she just wanted to cross the border to cheer her son up, maybe her lock screen photo was some infidels drowning in cages.

          The article states they tried to get the us border police's side of the story and they refused to give it.

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            Should wait until we hear both sides of the story. She says it's all peachy rosy and she just wanted to cross the border to cheer her son up, maybe her lock screen photo was some infidels drowning in cages.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @bbedward said:

            Should wait until we hear both sides of the story. She says it's all peachy rosy and she just wanted to cross the border to cheer her son up, maybe her lock screen photo was some infidels drowning in cages.

            I just don't buy that they even looked through their phones. If it comes out as true then heads will roll.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                How else to you differentiate between a Muslim, and a "Muslim" terrorist?

                The woman, her son, did I catch that her parents are in Chicago? I'd admit them no problem.

                But -who- was the adult cousin? that is concerning. The idea that she was crossing the border

                WITH A .."COUSIN" adult... to Vermont... to "buy him a toy"....

                sounds like a setup. Let the possible terrorist "cousin" in, because of the sad story about her

                son with cancer, which is tragic. They don't have toys in Canada?

                Sounds like a setup. Is the adult "cousin" a young male? Is he really a cousin?

                Nope. I'd let the Mother and son through..... but not the "cousin". doesn't sound right,

                with video prayers on the phone......just because you're Muslim doesn't mean

                you are always a victim.

                If it was a Christian, with a lot of prayer videos on his phone, I wouldn't let him in, either.

                I'd figure he was a nut up to something.

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                  Some over zealous border security not quite following the law. Same category as the homeschooling thing the other day.

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                  @gftchris said:

                  Some over zealous border security not quite following the law. Same category as the homeschooling thing the other day.

                  Idk Chris. When one public school teacher does something dumb it means the entire public school system is full of liberals trying to indoctrinate our kids

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    It's easy for someone from England which you can only reach by air, the Chunnel or sea to say our border security is 'over zealous'.

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                    • OsirisO Osiris

                      I will reserve immediate comment.

                      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadian-woman-turned-away-from-u-s-border-after-questions-about-religion-trump-1.3972019

                      TLDR: Canadian Muslim woman wants to take son with cancer on a trip USA to cheer him up. Border police question her extensively about her religious beliefs and practices. Go through her phone which has religious prayers on it. Question her about her opinion on Donald Trump and his immigration ban. She is denied entry.

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                      @osiris said:

                      I will reserve immediate comment.

                      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canadian-woman-turned-away-from-u-s-border-after-questions-about-religion-trump-1.3972019

                      TLDR: Canadian Muslim woman wants to take son with cancer on a trip USA to cheer him up. Border police question her extensively about her religious beliefs and practices. Go through her phone which has religious prayers on it. Question her about her opinion on Donald Trump and his immigration ban. She is denied entry.

                      @gftchris said:

                      Some over zealous border security not quite following the law. Same category as the homeschooling thing the other day.

                      Did anything illegal happen here? Constitutional protections do not extend to non-citizens.

                      I could pass for someone being of Middle Eastern descent. As such, I've experienced plenty of "random" screenings at airports and crossing the US/Canada border. If they wanted to deny me entry into Canada, they're well within their rights to do so. I could cry bullshit all I like, but it still would be legal. That being said, something about this story does seem off, and the question that immediately popped into my mind is if she was doing it for publicity.

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                        OsirisO Osiris wrote on last edited by Osiris
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                        And the phone searching continues. This time of a guy who has a NASA phone with possible sensitive info on it from the JPL.

                        http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detained-cbp-phone-search-trump-travel-ban

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          translation:

                          "Let the Muslim Brotherhood bring plenty of terrorists into the U.S. "

                          about right?

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