Browns add 14 Undrafted Free Agents
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Akron RB Andrew Johnson is at rookie camp. He's not on the list because he's there on a tryout; he hasn't yet received a contract offer from the Browns.
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It's obvious that the FO sees the need for help in the defensive backfield. Between the draft and signing undrafted FA's they are bringing in 8 new DB's. The odds alone say they find at least one gem out of that group.
I'd bet that one of the reasons the FO didn't go after a corner this year with an early pick is next year's draft is loaded with day 1 Corners. They can get a good one in round two or early on day 2.
this year's draft was not deep for corners or safeties.
It's obvious that the FO sees the need for help in the defensive backfield. Between the draft and signing undrafted FA's they are bringing in 8 new DB's. The odds alone say they find at least one gem out of that group.
I'd bet that one of the reasons the FO didn't go after a corner this year with an early pick is next year's draft is loaded with day 1 Corners. They can get a good one in round two or early on day 2.
this year's draft was not deep for corners or safeties.
Our lack of depth in the secondary was a big weakness last year.
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Mankok is just filling up camp with bodies to force good competition anyone getting a spot on this roster will have earned it...lets just hope injuries are minimal..
Its a great way to give some undrafted guys a chance to show what they have to offer as well..
Mankok is just filling up camp with bodies to force good competition anyone getting a spot on this roster will have earned it...lets just hope injuries are minimal..
Its a great way to give some undrafted guys a chance to show what they have to offer as well..
Your right on, we finally have a coach that knows what he is doing. This is how you get the most out of your players.
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I guess the counterargument would be that Dumervil's deceptively strong (he put up 30 reps of 225) and is a rare case of an undersized, not overly athletic pass rusher having a lot of success early on in his career.
Unless a guy's got Dwight Freeney athleticism (4.48 40), teams are going to be a bit down on any pass rusher measuring under 6'2". Look at how LaMarr Woodley slipped to the 2nd round and Everette Brown, a guy some here were hoping we'd take at #5, ended up falling to #43.
I'm not saying that Hunt's going to be as good as those guys, but I think it's smart to pick up these underrated short guys as late round picks or UDFA's. Last year, Jameel McClain was a guy I wanted; he signed with the Ravens, made the team, and became a core special teams player. He worked his way into some spot duty on defense late in the year and ended up notching 2.5 sacks.
Hunt could be a very similar type of contributor for us. Though he lacks McClain's versatility (McClain played DE, ILB, and OLB in college), Hunt could work his way onto the roster by proving himself on special teams, thereby buying himself a year to develop his linebacker skills.
If we'd taken him in the 6th round, I would have been happy with the pick. Fortunately, we got him as an undrafted free agent. Not sure why he fell, though I suspect the hit Heck & I discussed here could be part of the reason why.
Aloysius said:
I guess the counterargument would be that Dumervil's deceptively strong (he put up 30 reps of 225) and is a rare case of an undersized, not overly athletic pass rusher having a lot of success early on in his career.Unless a guy's got Dwight Freeney athleticism (4.48 40), teams are going to be a bit down on any pass rusher measuring under 6'2". Look at how LaMarr Woodley slipped to the 2nd round and Everette Brown, a guy some here were hoping we'd take at #5, ended up falling to #43.
I'm not saying that Hunt's going to be as good as those guys, but I think it's smart to pick up these underrated short guys as late round picks or UDFA's. Last year, Jameel McClain was a guy I wanted; he signed with the Ravens, made the team, and became a core special teams player. He worked his way into some spot duty on defense late in the year and ended up notching 2.5 sacks.
Hunt could be a very similar type of contributor for us. Though he lacks McClain's versatility (McClain played DE, ILB, and OLB in college), Hunt could work his way onto the roster by proving himself on special teams, thereby buying himself a year to develop his linebacker skills.
If we'd taken him in the 6th round, I would have been happy with the pick. Fortunately, we got him as an undrafted free agent. Not sure why he fell, though I suspect the hit Heck & I discussed here could be part of the reason why.
I agree with you Alo if we would have picked him in the sixth I would have been happy. There were about 6-8 late round guys I liked and I was hoping to get Frantz Joesph included as well as Hunt. I like in the video where it shows he has more than one move he has 2-3. Which in this league you need more than one. Now will that translate to the pro's I don't know. What I do know is you can't teach production you can teach technique. This guy had a lot of production in two years.
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I would love for Adam Hoppel to make the team.
He's from my area and it would be excellent to see him in a Browns uniform on Sundays.
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Aloysius said:
I guess the counterargument would be that Dumervil's deceptively strong (he put up 30 reps of 225) and is a rare case of an undersized, not overly athletic pass rusher having a lot of success early on in his career.Unless a guy's got Dwight Freeney athleticism (4.48 40), teams are going to be a bit down on any pass rusher measuring under 6'2". Look at how LaMarr Woodley slipped to the 2nd round and Everette Brown, a guy some here were hoping we'd take at #5, ended up falling to #43.
I'm not saying that Hunt's going to be as good as those guys, but I think it's smart to pick up these underrated short guys as late round picks or UDFA's. Last year, Jameel McClain was a guy I wanted; he signed with the Ravens, made the team, and became a core special teams player. He worked his way into some spot duty on defense late in the year and ended up notching 2.5 sacks.
Hunt could be a very similar type of contributor for us. Though he lacks McClain's versatility (McClain played DE, ILB, and OLB in college), Hunt could work his way onto the roster by proving himself on special teams, thereby buying himself a year to develop his linebacker skills.
If we'd taken him in the 6th round, I would have been happy with the pick. Fortunately, we got him as an undrafted free agent. Not sure why he fell, though I suspect the hit Heck & I discussed here could be part of the reason why.
I agree with you Alo if we would have picked him in the sixth I would have been happy. There were about 6-8 late round guys I liked and I was hoping to get Frantz Joesph included as well as Hunt. I like in the video where it shows he has more than one move he has 2-3. Which in this league you need more than one. Now will that translate to the pro's I don't know. What I do know is you can't teach production you can teach technique. This guy had a lot of production in two years.
I agree with you Alo if we would have picked him in the sixth I would have been happy. There were about 6-8 late round guys I was hoping to get Frantz Joseph included as well as Hunt. I like in the video where it shows he has more than one move he has 2-3. Which in this league you need more than one. Now will that translate to the pro's I don't know. What I do know is you can't teach production you can teach technique. This guy had a lot of production in two years.
And one of the best things I've read about Hunt is that whenever he wasn't going through drills at the East-West Shrine Game practices, he was busy working on the new hand technique the coaches there had shown him. I heard something similar about Joseph: when all the other guys were goofing around before practices at Texas vs. the Nation, Joseph was pumping himself up like he was getting ready for a bowl game.
Both are high energy, self-motivated types. Would have loved it if the Browns signed both of them, but I'm happy that we at least got one.
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Another reason to get excited about Hunt: theOBR's draft guru, Brent "Sobo" Sobleski, gave Hunt a 4th round grade and says he's "a very very interesting OLB project."
I agree.
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I agree with you Alo if we would have picked him in the sixth I would have been happy. There were about 6-8 late round guys I was hoping to get Frantz Joseph included as well as Hunt. I like in the video where it shows he has more than one move he has 2-3. Which in this league you need more than one. Now will that translate to the pro's I don't know. What I do know is you can't teach production you can teach technique. This guy had a lot of production in two years.
And one of the best things I've read about Hunt is that whenever he wasn't going through drills at the East-West Shrine Game practices, he was busy working on the new hand technique the coaches there had shown him. I heard something similar about Joseph: when all the other guys were goofing around before practices at Texas vs. the Nation, Joseph was pumping himself up like he was getting ready for a bowl game.
Both are high energy, self-motivated types. Would have loved it if the Browns signed both of them, but I'm happy that we at least got one.
Aloysius said:
And one of the best things I've read about Hunt is that whenever he wasn't going through drills at the East-West Shrine Game practices, he was busy working on the new hand technique the coaches there had shown him. I heard something similar about Joseph: when all the other guys were goofing around before practices at Texas vs. the Nation, Joseph was pumping himself up like he was getting ready for a bowl game.Both are high energy, self-motivated types. Would have loved it if the Browns signed both of them, but I'm happy that we at least got one.
That's exactly what this team needs self-motivators. That is infectus and other guys will catch on. It's good to have these lower level guys come in and push the veterans. You gotta love the energy these type of guys bring.
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Sigmund Bloom of Draftguys.com put together grades for each team's UDFA signings. He gave us a C, though he may have given us a higher grade if he'd known about the Hunt signing.
I do agree with him that Ravens and Bengals did very well.
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I am shocked That Beckwith from LSU and Jeremiah Johnson from Oregon both went undrafted....Any shockers for you?
I am shocked That Beckwith from LSU and Jeremiah Johnson from Oregon both went undrafted....Any shockers for you?
I was surprised with beckwith as well.
Also Marshall's C.J. Spillman. After his combine numbers I thought he had to be a day 2 pick. I was hoping the day of the draft he'd get a call from the Browns but the Chargers signed him as a FA.
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As with Erin Henderson last year, knee issues seem to be the reason Beckwith wasn't drafted:
Darry Beckwith was supposed to be a third-round pick. The highly rated inside linebacker out of LSU was known as an explosive hitter with the smarts to excel at the next level, but his draft status remained in flux due to a balky knee that sidelined him for parts of the last three seasons.
Beckwith figured that might cause a minor slide, but nothing like the free fall that occurred during last weekend's NFL draft.
"Teams just kept passing on me because of a medical thing," Beckwith said. "Each round, they kept passing and passing. When they passed the fourth round and I was still on the board, I started to get worried."
Jeremiah Johnson should have been drafted, but concerns about his long speed dropped him down draft boards. Some had him timed as slow as 4.71 in the 40 yard dash at the Combine, and he was only able to run a 4.56 at his pro day. Teammate Jason Williams, who ran a 4.72 at the Combine, was able to run a 4.47 at Oregon's pro day, so I'm guessing that 4.56 came on a very fast track.
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