Camp Trade UP
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Yes, this is Camp Trade UP. Now I am not talking about trading up with our first round picks...you can't trade up from #1.....but primarily I am talking about taking our lower round picks...in rounds 4,5,6,7...and using those to trade up into the 3rd round or higher.
Let's be honest...in Browns history they have gotten almost nothing out of the lower round picks:
Since the draft went to 7 rounds in 1993, and having had about 100 draft picks in those 4 rounds in the last 21 years....they have gotten very, very few players out of those rounds. In my research I found all of 6 names in the last quarter century that the Browns got in rounds 4-7 that contributed anything to the Browns:
Anthony Henry and Travis Benjamin in Round 4. Andra Davis (LB) and Buster Skrine in round 5. Ahtyba Rubin in round 6, and Paul Zukauskus in round 7.
So...I suggest packaging the picks the Browns have in those last 4 rounds and parlay them into either moving into the third or second round....or using them to move up spots in the higher rounds.
We are getting little or no talent out of those rounds. Use those assets to move up to get a chance at better talent.
(and yes...I am aware fully that the Browns have screwed up the picks they have had in the higher rounds...but what can we say about that. With higher picks, make better choices)
And..if in fact you want to use this forum to "trade up" any of our other picks, that would be good.
Hell.....who here would not take our 5,6,7 round picks and use them to go up a few slots from #12 or #33?
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Not for me. It's generally a crapshoot in all rounds but especially third and onwards. More picks you have the more chance you have of being lucky
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Not for me. It's generally a crapshoot in all rounds but especially third and onwards. More picks you have the more chance you have of being lucky
Not for me. It's generally a crapshoot in all rounds but especially third and onwards. More picks you have the more chance you have of being lucky
Well...I would venture to say that most teams may have a 6% success rate at drafting players in rounds 4-7.
I think your odds in that crapshoot are much much better if you have more picks in higher rounds.
I would say that having a single second round pick is better than having a 5th 6th and 7th round picks.
If you could trade your 5/6/7 rounders for a 2, would you not do that?
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Trading up from 33 is almost a must. If someone we like falls to the back end of the 1st round we need to make a move to get him so we can get the extra year on his rookie contract.
I wouldn't mind seeing us move up from 12 to get Fournette, but I'm not sure how much it would take to move up to the 4-6 range
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Trading up from 33 is almost a must. If someone we like falls to the back end of the 1st round we need to make a move to get him so we can get the extra year on his rookie contract.
I wouldn't mind seeing us move up from 12 to get Fournette, but I'm not sure how much it would take to move up to the 4-6 range
I wouldn't mind seeing us move up from 12 to get Fournette, but I'm not sure how much it would take to move up to the 4-6 range
If the Browns are bent on taking a first round RB (I sure hope not) they can stay put. Either Cook or Fournette will be there at 12.
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@ghoolie said:
Only a fucking team as fucking dumb ad the fucking Browns would consider this dumb fucking plan. Why the fuck in the right mind is going to say to themselves.....ooooh ooooooh oooooooh we get 2 7th round picks a 6th, 1 5th and a 4th.............................for our third?
The rounds 4 - 7 are shit rounds. The chance of finding someone good there is like playing a slot machine,I WOULD trade up..............
Trade Joe Thomas and next year's #1 to get another #1 rounder this year. Pick 4 times in the first 33........ fuck the rest of the picks.
Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? You are saying exactly what I am saying.....that we get shit out of rounds 4-7...and that is why I suggest a trade up.
Will some other team go along? Who knows, maybe/probably not....but what the fuck.....all one can do is ask.
Fair to say?
I suspect you out punted your coverage when you asked your wife to go out with you.
I mean, in you she got the equivalent of a 6-7th round draft pick...when should could have had a 2d rounder. But you went for it...and lo and behold you got a happy surprise. Right?
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NO TRADES whatsoever.
We have 5 of the first 65, so I believe you stand pat and look at your draft board, grab the highest rated guys and go from there.
I know it's just year two for Hue, DePodesta, & Sashi. They did the trades last year to set up this year, so EXECUTE it and quit sacrificing the present for the future.
Karlis Missed -
I am good with the 5 of the first 65.....but what I advocate is to see if they can get more picks in rounds 2-3 by trading up with their 5/6/7 rounders.
I mean, at this point, I think the Browns have been doing better historically with certain UDFAs they have signed than with their 4/5/6/7 round draft picks.
the Crowe
Tashaun
Meder
several others.
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I am good with the 5 of the first 65.....but what I advocate is to see if they can get more picks in rounds 2-3 by trading up with their 5/6/7 rounders.
I mean, at this point, I think the Browns have been doing better historically with certain UDFAs they have signed than with their 4/5/6/7 round draft picks.
the Crowe
Tashaun
Meder
several others.
I am good with the 5 of the first 65.....but what I advocate is to see if they can get more picks in rounds 2-3 by trading up with their 5/6/7 rounders.
I mean, at this point, I think the Browns have been doing better historically with certain UDFAs they have signed than with their 4/5/6/7 round draft picks.
the Crowe
Tashaun
Meder
several others.
I see what you're saying now. I'm just seriously jaded about how things have been effed up (as are others around here).
How are we to know if these guys are the right guys to run the team if we keep trading away? That's all...
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I am good with the 5 of the first 65.....but what I advocate is to see if they can get more picks in rounds 2-3 by trading up with their 5/6/7 rounders.
I mean, at this point, I think the Browns have been doing better historically with certain UDFAs they have signed than with their 4/5/6/7 round draft picks.
the Crowe
Tashaun
Meder
several others.
I see what you're saying now. I'm just seriously jaded about how things have been effed up (as are others around here).
How are we to know if these guys are the right guys to run the team if we keep trading away? That's all...
I see what you're saying now. I'm just seriously jaded about how things have been effed up (as are others around here).
How are we to know if these guys are the right guys to run the team if we keep trading away? That's all...
It is a legitimate concern. I have heard on the radio and seen some websites that says that despite the Browns drafting 14 players last year...not a single one of their rookies rated in the Top 50 rookie performers for the 2016 season.
I don't know if those are fantasy football rankings or otherwise...but still.....not a single one of our rookies made any significant impact last year....if those stats are to be believed.
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Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
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Someone might overpay for 33. They'll have a whole day to worry about someone going early.
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Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
If we end up with #22, I'm blaming Ag for having the audacity to even SUGGEST such a thing!
Mike
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NO TRADES whatsoever.
We have 5 of the first 65, so I believe you stand pat and look at your draft board, grab the highest rated guys and go from there.
I know it's just year two for Hue, DePodesta, & Sashi. They did the trades last year to set up this year, so EXECUTE it and quit sacrificing the present for the future.
NO TRADES whatsoever.
We have 5 of the first 65, so I believe you stand pat and look at your draft board, grab the highest rated guys and go from there.
I know it's just year two for Hue, DePodesta, & Sashi. They did the trades last year to set up this year, so EXECUTE it and quit sacrificing the present for the future.
Amen brother Bob..First they cut the cupboards far to bare with the likes of Schobert over Robertson,Hawk over Gabe & Schwartz over a few buc$'s. In not part of a youth movement in anybodies opinion. Secondly they valued (14) lower picks over top talent picks in 16 draft, due to them bearing their own cupboards. Now show us what you get paid to do. Put a watchable & win-able product on the field..(Oh by the way. you got about 100M in Cap Space to save your jobs if you want it..) Thanks Bob, Damn i feel b(i)etter
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
I'm all for trading up with the later-round picks, I just don't expect to jump into the 2nd round by packaging them together (who would be dumb enough to do that...?).
As someone pointed out earlier, players picked in rounds 4+ don't often contribute much. With this front office still learning the intricacies of the NFL, I would anticipate that their ability to find usable talent in rounds 4+ is close to non-existent. Our best bet may be to trade a 5th for a 4th in 2018.
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Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
If we end up with #22, I'm blaming Ag for having the audacity to even SUGGEST such a thing!
Mike
If we end up with #22, I'm blaming Ag for having the audacity to even SUGGEST such a thing!
Mike
I haven't talked to Russia in 10 years.
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Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
Yep let's trade up from 33 with some of those late rounders. Perhaps we can find Gip's QB at say, oh I don't know, maybe #22?
"My" QB won't be there anywhere near #22. Lop of one of the 2s and that might be where he goes.
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I'm all for trading up with the later-round picks, I just don't expect to jump into the 2nd round by packaging them together (who would be dumb enough to do that...?).
As someone pointed out earlier, players picked in rounds 4+ don't often contribute much. With this front office still learning the intricacies of the NFL, I would anticipate that their ability to find usable talent in rounds 4+ is close to non-existent. Our best bet may be to trade a 5th for a 4th in 2018.
I'm all for trading up with the later-round picks, I just don't expect to jump into the 2nd round by packaging them together (who would be dumb enough to do that...?).
As someone pointed out earlier, players picked in rounds 4+ don't often contribute much. With this front office still learning the intricacies of the NFL, I would anticipate that their ability to find usable talent in rounds 4+ is close to non-existent. Our best bet may be to trade a 5th for a 4th in 2018.
While no one may trade a #2 for like 5/6/7....they may be willing to take those in a trade with the Browns who could move up....as mentioned....going from 33 to higher....or 52 or 65 to a higher place.
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NO TRADES whatsoever.
We have 5 of the first 65, so I believe you stand pat and look at your draft board, grab the highest rated guys and go from there.
I know it's just year two for Hue, DePodesta, & Sashi. They did the trades last year to set up this year, so EXECUTE it and quit sacrificing the present for the future.
Amen brother Bob..First they cut the cupboards far to bare with the likes of Schobert over Robertson,Hawk over Gabe & Schwartz over a few buc$'s. In not part of a youth movement in anybodies opinion. Secondly they valued (14) lower picks over top talent picks in 16 draft, due to them bearing their own cupboards. Now show us what you get paid to do. Put a watchable & win-able product on the field..(Oh by the way. you got about 100M in Cap Space to save your jobs if you want it..) Thanks Bob, Damn i feel b(i)etter
Amen brother Bob..First they cut the cupboards far to bare with the likes of Schobert over Robertson,Hawk over Gabe & Schwartz over a few buc$'s. In not part of a youth movement in anybodies opinion. Secondly they valued (14) lower picks over top talent picks in 16 draft, due to them bearing their own cupboards. Now show us what you get paid to do. Put a watchable & win-able product on the field..(Oh by the way. you got about 100M in Cap Space to save your jobs if you want it..) Thanks Bob, Damn i feel b(i)etter
Hey it's all good. We all just want to talk AFC North title, playoffs & beyond. This draft talk from Oct-April is getting real old.
PS- I renewed my seats yet again. Go Browns.
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