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Tucker Carlson Brutally OUTS Bill Nye as a Fake Science Fraud [VIDEO]

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  • @mld-woody said:

    1) Yes, you're doing exactly what Carlson did. "answer every last question I have or you're wrong." Nye fell for the bait there. I'm guessing he was referring to 1750 as the point where man starts to affect the climate. Without that, it's not difficult to say we'd be closer to 1750 climate today. Without the influence of man on the climate.

    2) Again, what do YOU THINK he said. You're just copy and pasting literally the most biased sources you can. (Again, how can you read that article and think "Yeah, that told the whole story!").

    If you are stating something as factual then produce the facts and Nye cannot do it because they aren't there. It is speculation. I don't see why Nye doesn't just make more of the case the facts appear to suggest this instead of speaking about climate change being caused by man as an exact science and even going so far as to want to punish scientists who differ on it.

    The article is about the interview with Carlson and Nye and I watched the video.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    If you are stating something as factual then produce the facts and Nye cannot do it because they aren't there. It is speculation.

    Pretty much sums up religious beliefs in a nutshell.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    If you are stating something as factual then produce the facts and Nye cannot do it because they aren't there. It is speculation.

    Pretty much sums up religious beliefs in a nutshell.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Pretty much sums up religious beliefs in a nutshell.

    I'm not religious at all but how is religion the issue in this thread? This is about Bill Nye, not producing the science that he's claiming is a fact. Turning it into another pointless attack on OBF's religious beliefs is not helping that fact to be objectively explained sufficiently. It's just a way to distract from it.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Pretty much sums up religious beliefs in a nutshell.

    I'm not religious at all but how is religion the issue in this thread? This is about Bill Nye, not producing the science that he's claiming is a fact. Turning it into another pointless attack on OBF's religious beliefs is not helping that fact to be objectively explained sufficiently. It's just a way to distract from it.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I'm not religious at all but how is religion the issue in this thread? This is about Bill Nye, not producing the science that he's claiming is a fact. Turning it into another pointless attack on OBF's religious beliefs is not helping that fact to be objectively explained sufficiently. It's just a way to distract from it.

    Not an attack at all, just highlighting an irony. And if this board was concerned about staying on topic, it wouldn't be nearly as cluttered as it is. But, point taken. Guess I just had a moment.

  • Just to be clear, on a live TV interview what does 'producing the facts' exactly mean? Citing specific papers? Because one paper by itself doesn't make a conclusive case, there are countless papers coming to the same conclusions.

  • Just to be clear, on a live TV interview what does 'producing the facts' exactly mean? Citing specific papers? Because one paper by itself doesn't make a conclusive case, there are countless papers coming to the same conclusions.

    @gftchris said:

    Just to be clear, on a live TV interview what does 'producing the facts' exactly mean? Citing specific papers? Because one paper by itself doesn't make a conclusive case, there are countless papers coming to the same conclusions.

    But Nye didn't provide immediate facts to answer all of Carlson's questions. Therefore, Nyes side is no more legitimate than the denier side.

    ... Duh

  • Hey everybody is it time yet?

    😁

    WSS

  • @mld-woody said:

    Answer me first. I've been asking for a while now and all you seem to be able to do is copy and paste articles...

    LOL I make a comment about what Al Gore said and then provide the link so I don't get "where's the link?" and now that is copy and pasting...

    The comparison is apples to oranges. There is a clear link between smoking and lung cancer which is why tobacco industry has lost a number of lawsuits. The science is not there to prove man made climate change so people can and do disagree about it. The polar ice cap hasn't melted away as Al predicted it would years ago.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    LOL I make a comment about what Al Gore said and then provide the link so I don't get "where's the link?" and now that is copy and pasting...

    The comparison is apples to oranges. There is a clear link between smoking and lung cancer which is why tobacco industry has lost a number of lawsuits. The science is not there to prove man made climate change so people can and do disagree about it. The polar ice cap hasn't melted away as Al predicted it would years ago.

    I don't care what Al Gore said, I was still waiting for an answer from you. My comment about you just copy and pasting articles comes from your previous posts in this thread.

    So you agree that tobacco companies knowingly pedaling false info should be prosecuted? That's what I'm asking.

    (and the evidence is there for man made climate change. You just won't see it on RedState.com)

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    LOL I make a comment about what Al Gore said and then provide the link so I don't get "where's the link?" and now that is copy and pasting...

    The comparison is apples to oranges. There is a clear link between smoking and lung cancer which is why tobacco industry has lost a number of lawsuits. The science is not there to prove man made climate change so people can and do disagree about it. The polar ice cap hasn't melted away as Al predicted it would years ago.

    I don't care what Al Gore said, I was still waiting for an answer from you. My comment about you just copy and pasting articles comes from your previous posts in this thread.

    So you agree that tobacco companies knowingly pedaling false info should be prosecuted? That's what I'm asking.

    (and the evidence is there for man made climate change. You just won't see it on RedState.com)

    @mld-woody said:

    I don't care what Al Gore said, I was still waiting for an answer from you. My comment about you just copy and pasting articles comes from your previous posts in this thread.

    So you agree that tobacco companies knowingly pedaling false info should be prosecuted? That's what I'm asking.

    (and the evidence is there for man made climate change. You just won't see it on RedState.com)

    I think regardless of any information the tobacco companies put out in minimizing the risk of cigarette smoking most people knew already smoking wasn't good for you. Back in the 1930's people were calling cigarettes "coffin sticks" for good reason. Tobacco companies are being sued civilly and not criminally and I agree with that.

    The evidence is not there about man made climate change as a scientific fact. There are thousands of scientists who don't agree with it. If the evidence was there Bill Nye would have at least stated some of it but he couldn't. The idea of prosecuting those who don't believe in man made climate change is a terrible idea in a free democracy.

  • So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    What exactly would you have wanted Nye to present in a 10 minute interview where the interviewer was clearly hostile towards him? How is he going to run through the peer reviewed reports and all of the facts and data?

    A consensus of climate experts agree it is happening. Please post your "thousands of scientists" that think otherwise. And remember, Nye has already been minimalized because he's just an engineer. So if you give me a list like Cal has, where it's anyone with a vague science degree, hardly any will count

  • So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    What exactly would you have wanted Nye to present in a 10 minute interview where the interviewer was clearly hostile towards him? How is he going to run through the peer reviewed reports and all of the facts and data?

    A consensus of climate experts agree it is happening. Please post your "thousands of scientists" that think otherwise. And remember, Nye has already been minimalized because he's just an engineer. So if you give me a list like Cal has, where it's anyone with a vague science degree, hardly any will count

    @mld-woody said:

    So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    What exactly would you have wanted Nye to present in a 10 minute interview where the interviewer was clearly hostile towards him? How is he going to run through the peer reviewed reports and all of the facts and data?

    A consensus of climate experts agree it is happening. Please post your "thousands of scientists" that think otherwise. And remember, Nye has already been minimalized because he's just an engineer. So if you give me a list like Cal has, where it's anyone with a vague science degree, hardly any will count

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

  • @mld-woody said:

    So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    What exactly would you have wanted Nye to present in a 10 minute interview where the interviewer was clearly hostile towards him? How is he going to run through the peer reviewed reports and all of the facts and data?

    A consensus of climate experts agree it is happening. Please post your "thousands of scientists" that think otherwise. And remember, Nye has already been minimalized because he's just an engineer. So if you give me a list like Cal has, where it's anyone with a vague science degree, hardly any will count

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

    If I follow the breadcrumbs and this mentions the oregon petition, I'm not going to be impressed. I'll get back to you shortly...

  • And, of course, there are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change narrative and 9,029 of them hold PhDs in their respective fields.

    And yep - http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php

    31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,

    including 9,029 with PhDs

    Do we need to rehash this one yet again? I mean, I love the classics from time to time, but you've got to keep up with the times.

  • @mld-woody said:

    So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    What exactly would you have wanted Nye to present in a 10 minute interview where the interviewer was clearly hostile towards him? How is he going to run through the peer reviewed reports and all of the facts and data?

    A consensus of climate experts agree it is happening. Please post your "thousands of scientists" that think otherwise. And remember, Nye has already been minimalized because he's just an engineer. So if you give me a list like Cal has, where it's anyone with a vague science degree, hardly any will count

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

    Yep. The "yeah, but..."s should start shortly.

  • So a tobacco company knowingly publishing false reports minimizing the risk to public about smoking shouldn't be a criminal offense? But you think they should be sued over it? Interesting

    ****************************

    I'm open but I tend to think this was more of a case where tobacco companies chose to go with studies to support them over those that didn't. As late as 1964 the surgeon general only had the warning put on cigarettes it may be dangerous to your health. I see this more of where civil liability is applicable.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Over 30,000 Scientists Declare Climate Change A Hoax

    http://humansarefree.com/2016/09/over-30000-scientists-declare-climate.html

    Yep. The "yeah, but..."s should start shortly.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Yep. The "yeah, but..."s should start shortly.

    Woody asked me to show the link for the thousands of scientists who disagree with MMGW and I did.

  • The issue is whether those who deny MMGW should face criminal charges. The "science fraud guy" thinks it would be a good idea. I disagree.

  • I have done it in the past, too. lol. The de niles start - if they can't pick it apart,

    even bogusly, somehow, mmgw people will ignore it. But, Good Job, OBF.

    My point always was, when there are contradicting scientists, there is no

    definate absolute stance to take on either side of it, except to refuse to

    go with the mmgw side of it, because it is not settled, not at all.

    That is being proven more and more over the years. It's nice I was ahead of the

    curve - wasn't wrong about being a skeptic. We were correct to be looking

    at both sides of the issue.

  • Are we still rehashing this 30k scientist claim that was rife with climate knowledgeable folks like psychologists and social workers etc, etc? I mean even the phd'd were in fields unrelated. Im sorry i dont care what an electrical engineer who hasn't spent one month in a true climate lab, thinks

  • The issue is whether those who deny MMGW should face criminal charges. The "science fraud guy" thinks it would be a good idea. I disagree.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The issue is whether those who deny MMGW should face criminal charges. The "science fraud guy" thinks it would be a good idea. I disagree.

    So then what do 30k random scientists (not climatologists or anything) have to do with it? Considering the sheer volume of scientists globally? Are you just trying to throw things out and see what sticks? If you weren't around last time, Woody, myself and others around here would be eligible to sign it, but you don't respect our opinions on the matter...

    Anyway, you and woody are clearly playing 'stubborn keyboard warrior chicken' about this so I'll go ahead and say for him, nobody thinks you should be penalised in any way for legitimate research that contradicts (or supports) anything. The scientific community would *love* legitimate information on this topic whatever it says. The point being made is that large corporations with vested interests in people continuing to consume tobacco suppressed science documenting the negative effects of it, and people have died or had severe medical issues because they were smoking three packs a day. Same deal with lead companies. Now we're seeing a similar consensus in the scientific community, while supposed scientists, generally funded by parties with vested interests, are being trotted out as definitive experts with science that is debatable and intentionally misleading at best and flat out wrong at worst, while the world suffers the consequences.

  • The truth never goes far away, despite dishonest attempts at

    making it hide.

    https://patriotpost.us/opinion/47720