Trubisky
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I would definitely take Trubisky at #12
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Greg Cosell's take on Mitch
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I met Mitch in his senior year in HS and he was taller than me, so this is no surprise.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
Well, no one is perfect.....on his footwork I am not sure. What I have seen seems pretty good....and whatever slight flaws there may be are eminently correctable. And I disagree on the trajectory part. I have seen outstanding pinpoint trajectory on his deep passes. and what I have seen is that he is very capable of digesting information...and making the right read....as good as anyone that has come out in the last 5 years.
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I think when the dust settles Trubisky is going to be the 3rd QB taken after Kizer 1st and Watson 2nd. I really, really like Mitch as a prospect and would be willing to roll the dice on his biggest weakness (experience) if he's sitting there at #12.
I think when the dust settles Trubisky is going to be the 3rd QB taken after Kizer 1st and Watson 2nd. I really, really like Mitch as a prospect and would be willing to roll the dice on his biggest weakness (experience) if he's sitting there at #12.
Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
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I think when the dust settles Trubisky is going to be the 3rd QB taken after Kizer 1st and Watson 2nd. I really, really like Mitch as a prospect and would be willing to roll the dice on his biggest weakness (experience) if he's sitting there at #12.
Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
As founder and CEO of Camp Allen, I would be be hard pressed to say no to that.
Mitch has legit physical and mental attributes you want at the highest levels.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
Cosell's breakdown was interesting. We'll see how it unfolds.And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
Knew the shrimp stuff was BS.
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I think when the dust settles Trubisky is going to be the 3rd QB taken after Kizer 1st and Watson 2nd. I really, really like Mitch as a prospect and would be willing to roll the dice on his biggest weakness (experience) if he's sitting there at #12.
Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
Foster is a possibility, but barring a Tunsil type draft shakeup no way Allen slips down to #12 as of today.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
What do you honestly think of him as a prospect? I know it sounds stupid, but I tend to look at QB's nowadays with the lens of "is he getting it" when fielding the position as opposed to just being an athlete. I think as each year goes on it's so much less important to look at scheme and system but how he just plays the position. When I watch Mitch I see a guy with flaws but someone who seems to really play the position well and just has that between the ears talent that other guys in this draft don't. He reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford coming out of college.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
Think you've been a bit selective there Gip, he mentioned a few traits he needs to work on
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Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
Foster is a possibility, but barring a Tunsil type draft shakeup no way Allen slips down to #12 as of today.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
What do you honestly think of him as a prospect? I know it sounds stupid, but I tend to look at QB's nowadays with the lens of "is he getting it" when fielding the position as opposed to just being an athlete. I think as each year goes on it's so much less important to look at scheme and system but how he just plays the position. When I watch Mitch I see a guy with flaws but someone who seems to really play the position well and just has that between the ears talent that other guys in this draft don't. He reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford coming out of college.
Foster is a possibility, but barring a Tunsil type draft shakeup no way Allen slips down to #12 as of today.
What do you honestly think of him as a prospect? I know it sounds stupid, but I tend to look at QB's nowadays with the lens of "is he getting it" when fielding the position as opposed to just being an athlete. I think as each year goes on it's so much less important to look at scheme and system but how he just plays the position. When I watch Mitch I see a guy with flaws but someone who seems to really play the position well and just has that between the ears talent that other guys in this draft don't. He reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford coming out of college.
I like him. I actually like all of these top prospects. Not so much Mahomes, but I think Watson, Kizer and Trubisky all have the plus traits that could spell success for them in the NFL. This isn't a year where you have a dumb, lazy raw prospect with plus athletic traits. There's three intelligent, hard working guys with average to above average size and average to above average physical traits who can all find success depending on where they get drafted.
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Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
As founder and CEO of Camp Allen, I would be be hard pressed to say no to that.
Mitch has legit physical and mental attributes you want at the highest levels.
As founder and CEO of Camp Allen, I would be be hard pressed to say no to that.
Mitch has legit physical and mental attributes you want at the highest levels.
If MT were not the pick....I would perhaps be more in the Allen Camp than the Gayrett Camp. I actually believe that he fills a greater need for the Browns than Gayrett does.
I mean, I could see he and Shelton being perhaps the second coming of Bob Lilley and Randy White.
Well...maybe a little too much to expect both to be HOFers like Lilly and White....but we can dream.
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Not if Allen or Foster is sitting right there.
Foster is a possibility, but barring a Tunsil type draft shakeup no way Allen slips down to #12 as of today.
And, you know, the knock on his footwork and ball trajectory on deep passes and questions regarding his ability to quickly digest information and make the correct read and his penchant for throwing balls slightly behind on crossing routes.
Dude is far from perfect.
What do you honestly think of him as a prospect? I know it sounds stupid, but I tend to look at QB's nowadays with the lens of "is he getting it" when fielding the position as opposed to just being an athlete. I think as each year goes on it's so much less important to look at scheme and system but how he just plays the position. When I watch Mitch I see a guy with flaws but someone who seems to really play the position well and just has that between the ears talent that other guys in this draft don't. He reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford coming out of college.
Foster is a possibility, but barring a Tunsil type draft shakeup no way Allen slips down to #12 as of today.
What do you honestly think of him as a prospect? I know it sounds stupid, but I tend to look at QB's nowadays with the lens of "is he getting it" when fielding the position as opposed to just being an athlete. I think as each year goes on it's so much less important to look at scheme and system but how he just plays the position. When I watch Mitch I see a guy with flaws but someone who seems to really play the position well and just has that between the ears talent that other guys in this draft don't. He reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford coming out of college.
Kiper compared him to Matt Ryan. Another guy of that ilk...not sure who...compared him to Stafford. I see a lot of Aaron Rodgers in him. And quick release is Namathesque. But....yep, it will all depend on what he has between the ears.
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Again....nothing to say about him other than "not a lot of experience".
Ain't hardly no QB been ready to take over an NFL team right away. Very rare...even for the best.
Think you've been a bit selective there Gip, he mentioned a few traits he needs to work on
Think you've been a bit selective there Gip, he mentioned a few traits he needs to work on
He is the first person....on here or elsewhere that mentioned those traits. Not that it would surprise me that there are a few traits that "he needs to work on". Of course there would be a few. It is foolish to think that he is a finished product. But, I like the raw material that is there to work on better than with anyone else.
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Think you've been a bit selective there Gip, he mentioned a few traits he needs to work on
He is the first person....on here or elsewhere that mentioned those traits. Not that it would surprise me that there are a few traits that "he needs to work on". Of course there would be a few. It is foolish to think that he is a finished product. But, I like the raw material that is there to work on better than with anyone else.
He is the first person....on here or elsewhere that mentioned those traits. Not that it would surprise me that there are a few traits that "he needs to work on". Of course there would be a few. It is foolish to think that he is a finished product. But, I like the raw material that is there to work on better than with anyone else.
A fair response ?
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Mitch Trubisky: 6'2 1/8", 9 1/2" hands
DeShaun Watson: 6’2 1/2, 9 3/4” hands
Pat Mahomes: 6’2, 9 1/4” hands
DeShone Kizer: 6’4 1/4, 9 7/8” handsMitch Trubisky: 6'2 1/8", 9 1/2" hands
Pat Mahomes: 6’2, 9 1/4” hands
Looks like a couple water bottle parties...
I would definitely take Trubisky at #12
As might I, but, as others subsequently pointed out, it really depends on who else is there.
Good to see you outside of the swamp...
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Draft Grades from NFL.com
Top QBS in 2016:
Wentz 6.53
Goff 6.51
Lynch 6.2
Cook 5.9
Hackenberg 5.6
Brissett 5.5
Prescott 5.4
Kessler 5.4
Top QBs in 2017
Trubisky 6.7
Watson 6.3
Mahomes 5.9
Kizer 5.9
Peterman 5.8
Kaaya 5.6
Davis 5.3
Top overall grades 2016
Tunsil 7.6
Buckner 7.2
Elliott 7.1
Ramsey 6.8
Bosa 6.7
Hargraves 6.6
Stanley 6.5
Wentz 6.5
Goff 6.5
Floyd 6.5
Top overall grades 2017
Garrett 7.6
Fournette 7.1
Thomas 6.8
Allen 6.8
Hooker 6.7
Trubisky 6.7
Adams 6.6
Charlton 6.5
McDowell 6.5
Cook 6.5
After putting the various metrics through the Analytics machine I wonder who the machine says to draft first this year? Obviously Garrett, but Trubisky sports a better grade than any QB drafted last year - how does that weigh into the equation? Does the machine select the best football player that has a higher rating than any player taken last year (Garrett) or does it pick the highest rated player at the most important position on the field (Trubisky)? If faced with taking Julius Peppers or Mathew Stafford - players that the two prospects have been compared to - who would you rather have? A no-brainer (Stafford).
Sashi, take the slide rule out of your pocket protector, get to work, and don't screw this up.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-browns-are-reportedly-strongly-considering-taking-mitch-trubisky-at-no-1/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~The few weeks between the end of the NFL season and the start of free agency, and then the few weeks between free agency and the NFL Draft, are often referred to by league observers as lying season (or leverage season). Rumors and innuendo populate the airwaves and dominate the Twittersphere all day, every day, and all the leaks serve a purpose.
Maybe a GM wants to gauge the market for a free agent he likes. Maybe a player’s representatives want to give off the impression that several teams are chasing after him. Or maybe potential draftee’s camp wants it to be known that he has a promise from a team high up in the first round.
Whatever the rumor, there’s always an angle behind it. The rumors are out in full force this week, what with the start of the NFL’s annual scouting combine in Indianapolis, and one that hit on Thursday afternoon is sure to send out at least some minor shockwaves to those that closely follow the draft.
According to Cleveland.com, the Browns are “strongly considering” taking North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky with the No. 1 overall pick. It has long been expected that Texas A&M defensive lineman Myles Garrett will go No. 1, but Cleveland.com states that Trubisky, as well are two other unnamed players, are in the mix along with Garrett, and “he could have a slight edge given that (Browns coach Hue) Jackson said at the Senior Bowl a good quarterback would trump an elite non-QB.”
Jackson would not let on how the team has the quarterbacks ranked heading into the draft, though.
“We kind of have an idea but there’s no final, final (ranking) right now,’’ the Browns coach said. “I think we have an idea heading into it who are the guys that we really want to see more and find out more about, but I think it’s way early to make a decision about exactly where that position is.”
He did say that the things he’s looking for in a QB prospect are arm talent, processing ability, face of the franchise qualities. Those traits make it strange that the fact that Trubisky measured 6-foot-2 1/8 rather than the rumored 6-1 is purportedly a reason he is now in the mix for the No. 1 pick. Height does not fit within any of those boxes.
Given the recent rumors about the New England Patriots not trading Jimmy Garoppolo, it seems entirely possible that this strategic leak is directed at Bill Belichick, by way of letting him know the Browns have other options on the table besides the New England backup. This will all obviously take a while to play out, and more and more leaks are sure to come.
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