Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.
If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.
Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.
If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.
Johnny lacks the mental makeup to be an "NFL" player let alone , be an NFL QB.
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Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.
If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.
Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Then we were watching two very different games.
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Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.
If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.
Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Johnny off the field was a complete and utter disaster.
If the latter can be fixed, the former can carve out a niche somewhere doing something...even if it is holding the clipboard.
We have seen much worse.....which is pretty sad.
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Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?
No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
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Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?
No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?
No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
With as bad as the QB play is in the league, I wouldn't be surprised to see some team give him a shot in camp.
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Johnny on the field wasn't terrible overall. Some learning curves, but we've seen much worse.
Then we were watching two very different games.
Then we were watching two very different games.
Or you're just incapable of being objective.
If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.
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Or you're just incapable of being objective.
If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.
Ok...just for fun...who would be the top 10 worst? I'd think Ken Dorsey has to be on that list. Spergeon Wynn as well.
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Or you're just incapable of being objective.
If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.
Give me the 10 before him. Johnny had trouble with the playbook and spitting out call strings. That alone puts him up there.
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If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.
I'd like to see that list.
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Hasn't he lost a bunch of weight and gained a bunch of new tats?
No way any NFL team will give him a chance, he'd have to start in Canada first.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
I think you have to give JM his Clint-Longley-esque moments in the TN game... even when they were prompting "I guess coaching is overrated" comments from the staff... but then Clint Longley never made it as a starter either.
Aside: I never knew Clint was taken by the Bengals in Rnd 1 of the '74 Supplemental draft before somehow ending up on the 'Boys' roster.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
That description raises so many possibilities...
But you may be talking about my old buddy, MikeyH...
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I think you have to give JM his Clint-Longley-esque moments in the TN game... even when they were prompting "I guess coaching is overrated" comments from the staff... but then Clint Longley never made it as a starter either.
Aside: I never knew Clint was taken by the Bengals in Rnd 1 of the '74 Supplemental draft before somehow ending up on the 'Boys' roster.
2 years ago I said he would be Johnny Canada and someone (bleacher report blog guy?) said I was an idiot and I had no idea what I was talking about.
That description raises so many possibilities...
But you may be talking about my old buddy, MikeyH...
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Or you're just incapable of being objective.
If you think Manziel was the worst QB we've had on the field over the last 15 years...you're extremely mistaken. I wouldn't even put him top ten worst.
Give me the 10 before him. Johnny had trouble with the playbook and spitting out call strings. That alone puts him up there.
Give me the 10 before him. Johnny had trouble with the playbook and spitting out call strings. That alone puts him up there.
A drunk and high rookie from a primarily Air Raid offense had trouble with the playbook and "call strings"? That's a shocker.
He showed more progression and promise in his eight starts than Quinn did in his 20. Or Weeden in his 20. Or pretty much any one of the stable of journeymen we've had cycling through here.
It's pretty bad when a drunk, high rookie who can't even puke out the plays to his teammates can magically post a better career rating than you.
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He had eight starts?
He was pretty good in that game in Pittsburgh. The rest weren't too hot.
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He had eight starts?
He was pretty good in that game in Pittsburgh. The rest weren't too hot.
He had eight starts?
He was pretty good in that game in Pittsburgh. The rest weren't too hot.
I thought he showed alot of guts at KC. No help anywhere else
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Guts yes. Good? Eh.
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Give me the 10 before him. Johnny had trouble with the playbook and spitting out call strings. That alone puts him up there.
A drunk and high rookie from a primarily Air Raid offense had trouble with the playbook and "call strings"? That's a shocker.
He showed more progression and promise in his eight starts than Quinn did in his 20. Or Weeden in his 20. Or pretty much any one of the stable of journeymen we've had cycling through here.
It's pretty bad when a drunk, high rookie who can't even puke out the plays to his teammates can magically post a better career rating than you.
A drunk and high rookie from a primarily Air Raid offense had trouble with the playbook and "call strings"? That's a shocker.
He showed more progression and promise in his eight starts than Quinn did in his 20. Or Weeden in his 20. Or pretty much any one of the stable of journeymen we've had cycling through here.
It's pretty bad when a drunk, high rookie who can't even puke out the plays to his teammates can magically post a better career rating than you.
What progression? Certainly wasn't much to quantify.
Still waiting on the other 8.
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A drunk and high rookie from a primarily Air Raid offense had trouble with the playbook and "call strings"? That's a shocker.
He showed more progression and promise in his eight starts than Quinn did in his 20. Or Weeden in his 20. Or pretty much any one of the stable of journeymen we've had cycling through here.
It's pretty bad when a drunk, high rookie who can't even puke out the plays to his teammates can magically post a better career rating than you.
What progression? Certainly wasn't much to quantify.
Still waiting on the other 8.
What progression? Certainly wasn't much to quantify.
Still waiting on the other 8.
Don't let your inability to read get in the way of your perfectly crafted microdick retort.
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Don't let your inability to read get in the way of your perfectly crafted microdick retort.
Bringing up retorts such as you using the old 'well hes better than you'...
Get off my dick and while you're at it, Johnny's.
You said you could put a list together of 10 lesser QB's and you've produced 20% of that list. Don't take your wannabe hardass aggression out on me for asking you to stick to what you said you would do.
Who is #7? Wynn? Wallace? Delhomme?
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Don't let your inability to read get in the way of your perfectly crafted microdick retort.
Bringing up retorts such as you using the old 'well hes better than you'...
Get off my dick and while you're at it, Johnny's.
You said you could put a list together of 10 lesser QB's and you've produced 20% of that list. Don't take your wannabe hardass aggression out on me for asking you to stick to what you said you would do.
Who is #7? Wynn? Wallace? Delhomme?
Bringing up retorts such as you using the old 'well hes better than you'...
Get off my dick and while you're at it, Johnny's.
You said you could put a list together of 10 lesser QB's and you've produced 20% of that list. Don't take your wannabe hardass aggression out on me for asking you to stick to what you said you would do.
Who is #7? Wynn? Wallace? Delhomme?
The "you" was in reference to Quinn and Weeden. I think I also said "basically every journeyman QB we've had".
Now maybe I'm bad at math... but I think that's more than 20%.
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