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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    so, THIS IS A QUESTION to anybody with any sense:

    Why the hell, since obaMAO designated ms-13 as an international criminal org... IN 2012....

    WHY THE HELL DID HE CONTINUE
    WITH THE OPEN BORDERS, UNVETTED IMMIGRATION ???????

    http://virallable.com/obama-administration-designates-ms-13-street-gang-as-international-criminalorganization/

    I didn't say it was all on obaMao. he just tossed gasoline on the fire, dammit. THAT IS the POINT.

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      so, THIS IS A QUESTION to anybody with any sense:

      Why the hell, since obaMAO designated ms-13 as an international criminal org... IN 2012....

      WHY THE HELL DID HE CONTINUE
      WITH THE OPEN BORDERS, UNVETTED IMMIGRATION ???????

      http://virallable.com/obama-administration-designates-ms-13-street-gang-as-international-criminalorganization/

      I didn't say it was all on obaMao. he just tossed gasoline on the fire, dammit. THAT IS the POINT.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      @calfoxwc said:

      I didn't say it was all on obaMao. he just tossed gasoline on the fire, dammit. THAT IS the POINT.

      Ahhh the coatse strategic retreat....

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/US_Navy_041025-N-2383B-055_U.S._Navy_combat_photographers_practice_a_center_peel_maneuver_during_troop_formation_and_contact_drills.jpg/1200px-US_Navy_041025-N-2383B-055_U.S._Navy_combat_photographers_practice_a_center_peel_maneuver_during_troop_formation_and_contact_drills.jpg

        The coatse peelback?

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          obaMao designated ms13 as an international criminal org.

          obaMao insists on wide open no borders, no vetting of illegals.

          obaMao protects illegals, releases ms-13 illegals.

          ms-13 is growing dynamically with the flood of destitute, non-english speaking,

          no skils in any trade, etc, and they are joining ms-13 like crazy.

          ms-13 explodes on our national scene.

          Now, anybody who figures that obamao isn't part of ms-13's crimes in our country NOW,

          is just all soaked in egypt.

          or, an asswhole.

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            obaMao designated ms13 as an international criminal org.

            obaMao insists on wide open no borders, no vetting of illegals.

            obaMao protects illegals, releases ms-13 illegals.

            ms-13 is growing dynamically with the flood of destitute, non-english speaking,

            no skils in any trade, etc, and they are joining ms-13 like crazy.

            ms-13 explodes on our national scene.

            Now, anybody who figures that obamao isn't part of ms-13's crimes in our country NOW,

            is just all soaked in egypt.

            or, an asswhole.

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            marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            obaMao designated ms13 as an international criminal org.

            obaMao insists on wide open no borders, no vetting of illegals.

            obaMao protects illegals, releases ms-13 illegals.

            ms-13 is growing dynamically with the flood of destitute, non-english speaking,

            no skils in any trade, etc, and they are joining ms-13 like crazy.

            ms-13 explodes on our national scene.

            Now, anybody who figures that obamao isn't part of ms-13's crimes in our country NOW,

            is just all soaked in egypt.

            or, an asswhole.

            You took what I said as defense of Obama? You had to have stopped reading after I said blaming JUST Obama is not historically correct.

            I even said his policies contributed but that obviously went over your head.

            This just goes to show how blaming one party for our border and immigration problems is a fallacy as effective as pissing into a tornado. This obsession with it's this one's fault or that one's fault has blinded both sides from the truth.

            That truth is both conservatives and liberals squandered plenty of chances to take control of our borders. We've been too busy policing the rest of the world and throwing money down a bottomless pit (Military Industrial Complex).

            When instead somewhere along the line if these so called leaders (democraps or republicants)were so smart, they could've figured out the difference between military spending and defense spending. Had they figured it out we would have already been all over this border problem.

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              C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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              And cals missing my point that ms-13 isnt "exploding" on the scene. They've been doing exactly what they do for decades, no more no less. Its just that most people uninterested in the subject barely ever heard of them despite the fact that back in the late 90's LE considered them the worst gang in the country.

              Im not in disagreement about the democrats long standing immigration policies, which is why I lean right on the issue. But cal per usual, has to start every fucking thread with hystrionic proclamations of these dire problems that to him just exploded out of nowhere cause....."dat negro". When a simple google search would yield answers to just how long these dudes have been in the U.S and have been brutally murdering people.

              They are no more dangerous today than they were 30 years ago. Its just now we hear about it because of the immigration shouting match going on. But obamao runs ms-13 and tells em who to kill!!!

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                @calfoxwc said:

                I was thinking about it.... "thanks for the illegals, obaMao" would have been the title.

                and it is obaMao's fault - this open borders garbage.

                Do you morons understand just how long ms-13 has been in this country? They were hacking people on the streets in DC in the 80's. I learned about them in the late 90's taking some legal and CJ courses.

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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                @clevfan4life said:

                Do you morons understand just how long ms-13 has been in this country? They were hacking people on the streets in DC in the 80's. I learned about them in the late 90's taking some legal and CJ courses.

                And so nothing should be done about it? They're tenured? Is that what you're saying?

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Do you morons understand just how long ms-13 has been in this country? They were hacking people on the streets in DC in the 80's. I learned about them in the late 90's taking some legal and CJ courses.

                  And so nothing should be done about it? They're tenured? Is that what you're saying?

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  And so nothing should be done about it? They're tenured? Is that what you're saying?

                  no god no, which is why i said i lean somewhat right on immigration. Not far enough right to espouse some of these half assed ideas Trump thinks up at 4am though

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                    @calfoxwc said:

                    obaMao designated ms13 as an international criminal org.

                    obaMao insists on wide open no borders, no vetting of illegals.

                    obaMao protects illegals, releases ms-13 illegals.

                    ms-13 is growing dynamically with the flood of destitute, non-english speaking,

                    no skils in any trade, etc, and they are joining ms-13 like crazy.

                    ms-13 explodes on our national scene.

                    Now, anybody who figures that obamao isn't part of ms-13's crimes in our country NOW,

                    is just all soaked in egypt.

                    or, an asswhole.

                    You took what I said as defense of Obama? You had to have stopped reading after I said blaming JUST Obama is not historically correct.

                    I even said his policies contributed but that obviously went over your head.

                    This just goes to show how blaming one party for our border and immigration problems is a fallacy as effective as pissing into a tornado. This obsession with it's this one's fault or that one's fault has blinded both sides from the truth.

                    That truth is both conservatives and liberals squandered plenty of chances to take control of our borders. We've been too busy policing the rest of the world and throwing money down a bottomless pit (Military Industrial Complex).

                    When instead somewhere along the line if these so called leaders (democraps or republicants)were so smart, they could've figured out the difference between military spending and defense spending. Had they figured it out we would have already been all over this border problem.

                    calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    @marcus said:

                    You took what I said as defense of Obama? You had to have stopped reading after I said blaming JUST Obama is not historically correct.

                    I even said his policies contributed but that obviously went over your head.

                    This just goes to show how blaming one party for our border and immigration problems is a fallacy as effective as pissing into a tornado. This obsession with it's this one's fault or that one's fault has blinded both sides from the truth.

                    That truth is both conservatives and liberals squandered plenty of chances to take control of our borders. We've been too busy policing the rest of the world and throwing money down a bottomless pit (Military Industrial Complex).

                    When instead somewhere along the line if these so called leaders (democraps or republicants)were so smart, they could've figured out the difference between military spending and defense spending. Had they figured it out we would have already been all over this border problem.

                    Well, yeah, it's obaMao, and him alone, that ***opened our borders wide open to illegals and kept releasing them

                    even after they committed crimes***

                    Yes, I never appreciated Bush, and others not stopping illegal immigration. I blamed Bush for that while he was pres.

                    You are correct - my point is, however, that obaMao threw gasoline on the illegal immigrant fire. The problem is many times

                    worse, many times faster. Not the only one who failed to fix it...but he made it FAR WORSE. So, most of the fault lies

                    with obamao now. that's all. I'm just not good at following moral equivalency that I disagree with. ObaMao blew our borders

                    wide open, WITH NO VETTING. It's going to be hell trying to fix it. And I'm not talking about those who came here and have

                    jobs and have been here for many years, etc. The crimes are adding up dramatically - crimes that DID NOT HAVE TO

                    HAVE EVER HAPPENED. That's all. You are five star classy on this board - I just disagree with you once in a while.

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                      marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                      I'll tell you this my friend. In the grand scheme of things the Washington blame game will keep us in park (haven't even shifted to be stuck in any gear).

                      While I think people just trying to get by will suffer. I support the need to get dangerous people that are not U.S. Citizens out of here. Moreover, I say any citizen doing business with dangerous illegals (be it drugs, guns, or human trafficking) should have their citizenship revoked and share the same fate as their business partners.

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