Let's Let Joe Thomas Start the Combine Thread
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Fournette had a bad combine. Not just unimpressive.
Peppers had 19 reps. Pretty good.
Fournette had a fine combine. It seems people have just mentally blocked out the definition of a good 40 for a power RB all of a sudden.
Fournette had a fine combine. It seems people have just mentally blocked out the definition of a good 40 for a power RB all of a sudden.
See below.
And his size combined with his 40 was borderline elite. So that averages out to "bad"?
As Tour said why the extra weight? But in regards to the 40, if you watched them ghost Julio Jones against Ross' record 40 4.22 run, I'd guesstimate Fournett's 40 time against Adrian Peterson would be about three feet. Big deal.
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Fuck Foster. Sounds like an obnoxious asshole.
Of course the southern brother with a temper offends the Michigan fans pinky out sensibilities. You're gay.
Of course the southern brother with a temper offends the Michigan fans pinky out sensibilities. You're gay.
Haha, my bad. I forgot Aggies need to ride Bamas coattails still. "You're gay"... Genius.
The guy pulled a "do you know who I am" and then threatened to fight a hospital worker. Sounds like an asshole.
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Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.
Solomon Thomas has improved his draft stock too. Gonna be a really good one. And I think KSU's Jordan Willis may have put himslef high in the 2nd.
Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.
I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.
I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
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Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.
I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.
I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.
I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
Funny you should say that. Just heard him say on NFL Total access, "Couple of my friends call me The Flash.............I'm fast but I can also turn that speed into power."
The other one that really impressed me was Solomon Thomas. I'd put him right up there with Garrett and Allen as all Top 3 guys in any order you'd want to put them.
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Wow Tour you were right on Garrett jumping out of the combine building. 41 in. vert. and 10'8" broad jump.
I finally got one right! And a 1.73(?) 10-yd split to boot.
I still can't believe he ran a 4.64... the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away
.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15? -
the man has no sprinter form at all.
Hips flying... legs flailing... the man runs with a wide base. Know what that is good for? Speed to power and #1 overall...
Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away
.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15? Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away
.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15? Jalepeno Peppers seems like a fun kid that LOVES football enough to make it infectious with teammates via his team leadership role. He looks like a damn good tackler with healthy shoulders, which can matter over the long haul in space that some people aren't thinking about regarding Hooker. Back in October I was a huge Hooker fan but heading into the NFL with a torn labrum requiring surgical repair gives me the heebeegeebees about him all of a sudden. This kid looks like he can be ideal for the blitz (as depicted on film), special teams and the creative mind of Gregg Williams. He's at least worthy of keeping an open mind about.
It's a shame I need to type a 1st round prospect LOVES football but our last FO drafted the hollow inner chests of Gilbert and Manziel over Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. And here we remain needing those 2 most important roles on a football team...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football too.
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I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football too.
I have not found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
Can't disagree here Tia, cause I have seen some of that also. And the players only get bigger & faster at the next level. But loving the game & having confidence in yourself not sucking at any of those positions are still on tape to be determined>>But we can use all his so called positions of available including ST..When Adams & Hooker are off the board,Peppers has got to be considered
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I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football too.
I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football as well.
So did Otto Graham who took Cleveland to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championships in his first 10 years. But staying in the context of the conversation, Gilbert and Manziel did not love football when we drafted them instead of Khalil Mack and Derek Carr who prioritized it.
Peppers has to have some good qualities to be getting the attention and praise I've seen about him. A lot of people that watch Michigan every week swear he's something special they haven't seen in quite a while. You do a nice job in here with your analyses of some of the prospects but it's also possible the OSU-Michigan rivalry has you going out of your way a little bit extra with some bias against him. I could be wrong on that though since others don't buy into him either.
FWIW - here's what Lindy's Sports Pro Football Draft 2017 has to say about Peppers on page 80: "Pound for pound, Peppers might just be the best open-field tackler in the country - which is why Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines opted to play him so close to the line of scrimmage."
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
No. Merely axiomatic.
"from Greek axiōma ("something worthy") and "axios" ("worthy")."
Why thank you Gip!
"from Greek axiōma ("something worthy") and "axios" ("worthy")."
Why thank you Gip!
Taken for granted. Self Evident.
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wow Liufau way slower than i thought he would be
Really surprising results in the 40Mahomes slower than Trubisky
Watson = Trubisky
Webb > Kizer
Trubisky 4.67(u)
Watson 4.67 (u)
Webb 4.79 (u)Mahomes 4.80 (u)
Kiser 4.83
wow Liufau way slower than i thought he would be
Really surprising results in the 40
Mahomes slower than Trubisky
Watson = Trubisky
Webb > Kizer
Trubisky 4.67(u)
Watson 4.67 (u)
Webb 4.79 (u)
Mahomes 4.80 (u)
Kiser 4.83
How often really is a QB expected to make a 40 yard run? Very rarely.
Only after he throws an int.....and must chase down the defender to stop a Pick 6 from happening?
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wow Liufau way slower than i thought he would be
Really surprising results in the 40
Mahomes slower than Trubisky
Watson = Trubisky
Webb > Kizer
Trubisky 4.67(u)
Watson 4.67 (u)
Webb 4.79 (u)
Mahomes 4.80 (u)
Kiser 4.83
How often really is a QB expected to make a 40 yard run? Very rarely.
Only after he throws an int.....and must chase down the defender to stop a Pick 6 from happening?
How often really is a QB expected to make a 40 yard run? Very rarely.
Only after he throws an int.....and must chase down the defender to stop a Pick 6 from happening?
It makes a difference when the protection breaks down and you have to run or get killed by a linebacker.
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How often really is a QB expected to make a 40 yard run? Very rarely.
Only after he throws an int.....and must chase down the defender to stop a Pick 6 from happening?
It makes a difference when the protection breaks down and you have to run or get killed by a linebacker.
It makes a difference when the protection breaks down and you have to run or get killed by a linebacker.
But, that is not a 40 yard dash. There are other drills no? Like the cone drill...that may be more indicative of a guys skills on those situations.
Did that drill get done yet by these guys attending the combine?
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Of course the southern brother with a temper offends the Michigan fans pinky out sensibilities. You're gay.
Haha, my bad. I forgot Aggies need to ride Bamas coattails still. "You're gay"... Genius.
The guy pulled a "do you know who I am" and then threatened to fight a hospital worker. Sounds like an asshole.
Haha, my bad. I forgot Aggies need to ride Bamas coattails still. "You're gay"... Genius.
The guy pulled a "do you know who I am" and then threatened to fight a hospital worker. Sounds like an asshole.
Sounds like a guy we need atLB.
Has nothing to do with anyone's coat tails. I'd defend any badass player that was getting raked over the coals or an irrelevant incident like this.
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I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football too.
I havent found the 2016 numbers yet but considering his above average missed tackle percentage last year alone, I think the phrase 'box safety' for Peppers should be concerning as well.
P.S. - Tebow loved football too.
You'll call this homerism, but Peppers got himself into position to attempt tackles most defenders couldn't. Even if he didn't bring the ball carrier down, he slowed him up for the rest of the defense. An example of this was on WR screens. He got right by the player that was supposed to block him and brought the ball carrier down most of the time. But sometimes he'd slip through one block, most of another and just couldn't quite get the angle, but then another DB would finish the job.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Haha, my bad. I forgot Aggies need to ride Bamas coattails still. "You're gay"... Genius.
The guy pulled a "do you know who I am" and then threatened to fight a hospital worker. Sounds like an asshole.
Sounds like a guy we need atLB.
Has nothing to do with anyone's coat tails. I'd defend any badass player that was getting raked over the coals or an irrelevant incident like this.
Sounds like a guy we need atLB.
Has nothing to do with anyone's coat tails. I'd defend any badass player that was getting raked over the coals or an irrelevant incident like this.
There's a difference between playing with an edge and being a douche.
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Hell yes you take Myles for the player & athletic combine numbers..BUT thank god the guy with the ball maybe 10 yards away
.Them strides,with any balance in those drills is NO signs of a Von Miller. Unorthodox running lower body injury is now a concern. not just a hockey term anymore..My Buckeye Man cave hated J. Peppers yesterday. But I got over the Blue yesterday. The post interview showed a kid having fun with his confidence that this team needs. But what position can Peppers really play at next level? Seems to be small at LB but I thought the same after seeing Zach Cunningham.Looks safty'ish to me? Or was Peppers a guy & his agent announcing he's a S/FS as a money move to get him top 15? Jalepeno Peppers seems like a fun kid that LOVES football enough to make it infectious with teammates via his team leadership role. He looks like a damn good tackler with healthy shoulders, which can matter over the long haul in space that some people aren't thinking about regarding Hooker. Back in October I was a huge Hooker fan but heading into the NFL with a torn labrum requiring surgical repair gives me the heebeegeebees about him all of a sudden. This kid looks like he can be ideal for the blitz (as depicted on film), special teams and the creative mind of Gregg Williams. He's at least worthy of keeping an open mind about.
It's a shame I need to type a 1st round prospect LOVES football but our last FO drafted the hollow inner chests of Gilbert and Manziel over Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. And here we remain needing those 2 most important roles on a football team...
Amen. He's only helped himself at the combine. Doing two days of drills I believe is being seen as a positive as well.Jalepeno Peppers seems like a fun kid that LOVES football enough to make it infectious with teammates via his team leadership role. He looks like a damn good tackler with healthy shoulders, which can matter over the long haul in space that some people aren't thinking about regarding Hooker. Back in October I was a huge Hooker fan but heading into the NFL with a torn labrum requiring surgical repair gives me the heebeegeebees about him all of a sudden. This kid looks like he can be ideal for the blitz (as depicted on film), special teams and the creative mind of Gregg Williams. He's at least worthy of keeping an open mind about.
It's a shame I need to type a 1st round prospect LOVES football but our last FO drafted the hollow inner chests of Gilbert and Manziel over Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. And here we remain needing those 2 most important roles on a football team...
Plus, NFL Network was the Jabr.ill Peppers show yesterday. I loved it.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Amen. He's only helped himself at the combine. Doing two days of drills I believe is being seen as a positive as well.Jalepeno Peppers seems like a fun kid that LOVES football enough to make it infectious with teammates via his team leadership role. He looks like a damn good tackler with healthy shoulders, which can matter over the long haul in space that some people aren't thinking about regarding Hooker. Back in October I was a huge Hooker fan but heading into the NFL with a torn labrum requiring surgical repair gives me the heebeegeebees about him all of a sudden. This kid looks like he can be ideal for the blitz (as depicted on film), special teams and the creative mind of Gregg Williams. He's at least worthy of keeping an open mind about.
It's a shame I need to type a 1st round prospect LOVES football but our last FO drafted the hollow inner chests of Gilbert and Manziel over Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. And here we remain needing those 2 most important roles on a football team...
Plus, NFL Network was the Jabr.ill Peppers show yesterday. I loved it.
Amen. He's only helped himself at the combine. Doing two days of drills I believe is being seen as a positive as well.
Plus, NFL Network was the Jabr.ill Peppers show yesterday. I loved it.
It paints me to say anything positive about an ichigan player....but very impressive for him to do drills with both the LB and the DB's on back to back days. Didn't see much of yesterday but he looked pretty good today. Probably a better fit because of his size as a safety but to Flugels point...the guy is a football player.
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Sounds like a guy we need atLB.
Has nothing to do with anyone's coat tails. I'd defend any badass player that was getting raked over the coals or an irrelevant incident like this.
There's a difference between playing with an edge and being a douche.
There's a difference between playing with an edge and being a douche.
That's debatable.
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