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  • Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    I wholly agree with this. Just remember it goes both ways. If theres ever a mass protest atbthe akron pp and they block market st traffic after work, they better have it out of their system by the time chief inspector comes through. Blm, planned parenthood i dont give a damn what ur protesting dont block my path home. I havevzero compunction driving over people to get out of a protest zone.

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      How do I equip blocking your free access to the world with a group of protesters blocking my free access to the world? Gee whiz think about it.

      So because you can work from home and your boss might not care if you blew the day off that goes for everybody right?

      So I'm assuming if the Westboro Baptist Church blocked the road in front of your house you're okay with it and especially if they needed a few days or weeks to make their point.

      I'm guessing not.

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      S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by sadbrownsfan
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      @westside-steve said:

      How do I equip blocking your free access to the world with a group of protesters blocking my free access to the world? Gee whiz think about it. You blocking my garage alone is not protected as "Freedom to assembly", now if you and a few other started protesting on the road in front of my house that would be protected.

      So because you can work from home and your boss might not care if you blew the day off that goes for everybody right? I think it says more about your boss if they are willing to fire you over something you have no control over, then chances are they were looking for a reason to fire you edit- specially if it was only for 1 day

      So I'm assuming if the Westboro Baptist Church blocked the road in front of your house you're okay with it and especially if they needed a few days or weeks to make their point. To me I understand the right for groups(even ones I don't agree with) to have the ability to gather and protest(the ability to make ones voice heard is part of being an american) but if it goes beyond a day or two, police usually start putting up road blocks and directing traffic around protest area and making sure traffic can flow.

      I'm guessing not.

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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        Well I get the feeling you were just being the devil's advocate here but I won't call you a liar. Anyway you might think a boss was an asshole for firing you but let's take my job okay? If I don't show up it doesn't get done. There's nobody within the company that can do my job. There's probably no way they could get at short notice that could replace me satisfactorily. So it's not like they would fire me but it would be an extreme hardship for me and for them. Just so the Westboro Baptist Church until the world that God hates fags.

        Also if you are so concerned with their rights to make their point why would two days be worse than one, three worse than 2?

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          Well I get the feeling you were just being the devil's advocate here but I won't call you a liar. Anyway you might think a boss was an asshole for firing you but let's take my job okay? If I don't show up it doesn't get done. There's nobody within the company that can do my job. There's probably no way they could get at short notice that could replace me satisfactorily. So it's not like they would fire me but it would be an extreme hardship for me and for them. Just so the Westboro Baptist Church until the world that God hates fags.

          Also if you are so concerned with their rights to make their point why would two days be worse than one, three worse than 2?

          WSS

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          S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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          @westside-steve said:

          Well I get the feeling you were just being the devil's advocate here but I won't call you a liar. Anyway you might think a boss was an asshole for firing you but let's take my job okay? If I don't show up it doesn't get done. There's nobody within the company that can do my job. There's probably no way they could get at short notice that could replace me satisfactorily. So it's not like they would fire me but it would be an extreme hardship for me and for them. Just so the Westboro Baptist Church until the world that God hates fags.

          Also if you are so concerned with their rights to make their point why would two days be worse than one, three worse than 2?

          WSS

          I am not playing devils advocate, I just don't like the idea that would try to limit peaceful protestors, if you start telling protestors they are financially obligated to reimburse companies that may lose money or someone could not make it to work, then you start limiting or restricting peoples capabilities of protesting.

          If I told you that anyone who joins a protest to support gun rights has to pay $100 dollars to cover the potential loss of a business in the area you are protesting, would you still protest? How many people would not join? at what dollar amount would you decide it was something you couldn't afford to protest?

          Rights to make ones point should not endanger others, hence why police usually set up areas for people to protest to limit this( having protestors on one side of the street, directing traffic, road blocks, etc.)

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            I maintain that restricting my freedom to live my life is not part of a peaceful demonstration. That's about all I can tell you.

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              And I don't care what the purpose of the protest is if I stop someone else from going about what he needs to do and it affects him financially the protesters should be liable.

              Basically I think all protesters are assholes at least to some extent.

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                And I don't care what the purpose of the protest is if I stop someone else from going about what he needs to do and it affects him financially the protesters should be liable.

                Basically I think all protesters are assholes at least to some extent.

                WSS

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                S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                And I don't care what the purpose of the protest is if I stop someone else from going about what he needs to do and it affects him financially the protesters should be liable.

                Basically I think all protesters are assholes at least to some extent.

                WSS

                Sometimes it takes people being an a-hole to keep this country great, Boston Tea party, woman suffrage, Labor strikes of the early 1900's, civil rights movements

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  How would something like this even be enforced?

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                    How would something like this even be enforced?

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                    S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    How would something like this even be enforced?

                    I would guess if it was an organized protest then you would be able to sue the organization for lost wages\business.

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                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                      How would something like this even be enforced?

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      How would something like this even be enforced?

                      One example might be that everyone blocks access for an automobile in which someone's taking it loved one to a medical appointment could be held jointly and severally liable.

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        And I don't care what the purpose of the protest is if I stop someone else from going about what he needs to do and it affects him financially the protesters should be liable.

                        Basically I think all protesters are assholes at least to some extent.

                        WSS

                        Sometimes it takes people being an a-hole to keep this country great, Boston Tea party, woman suffrage, Labor strikes of the early 1900's, civil rights movements

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                        @sadbrownsfan said:

                        Sometimes it takes people being an a-hole to keep this country great, Boston Tea party, woman suffrage, Labor strikes of the early 1900's, civil rights movements

                        So rioting and destruction of property (let's not pretend those demonstrations were peaceful) are perfectly legitimate Vehicles toward letting the world know that you hate Trump or that god hates fags.

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                          @sadbrownsfan said:

                          Sometimes it takes people being an a-hole to keep this country great, Boston Tea party, woman suffrage, Labor strikes of the early 1900's, civil rights movements

                          So rioting and destruction of property (let's not pretend those demonstrations were peaceful) are perfectly legitimate Vehicles toward letting the world know that you hate Trump or that god hates fags.

                          WSS

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                          S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          So rioting and destruction of property are perfectly legitimate Vehicles toward letting the world know that you hate Trump or that god hates fags.

                          WSS

                          I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                          Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            So rioting and destruction of property are perfectly legitimate Vehicles toward letting the world know that you hate Trump or that god hates fags.

                            WSS

                            I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                            Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            @sadbrownsfan said:

                            d (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

                            U hush now!!

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              So rioting and destruction of property are perfectly legitimate Vehicles toward letting the world know that you hate Trump or that god hates fags.

                              WSS

                              I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                              Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

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                              @sadbrownsfan said:

                              I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                              Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

                              Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                @sadbrownsfan said:

                                I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                                Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

                                Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                WSS

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                                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                They didn't loot and say 'colonist's lives matter'?

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                                  @sadbrownsfan said:

                                  I said before I do not agree with rioting, destruction of public or private property is something I do not support. Peaceful protesting I do fully support, even if I do not agree with the protestors.

                                  Yes, it has happened with some of things I posted (ie the Boston Tea Party was not a peaceful protest).

                                  Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                  WSS

                                  a little off topic but..

                                  A group of more "extreme women suffrage" protestors did get arrested for obstructing traffic for protesting in front of the White House, fined and jailed...then when they returned to protest beaten and tortured. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_Terror_(event)

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    Yes well that's why I mentioned it. There are plenty of civil rights riots as well as the Boston Tea Party. Anyway I don't remember the suffragettes burning anything down for the record.

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                                    They didn't loot and say 'colonist's lives matter'?

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    They didn't loot and say 'colonist's lives matter'?

                                    Well, it didn't work out for the British when they tried to make the colonists pay for the financial loss of the East india Company.

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                                      https://m.landofthebrave.info/boston-tea-party-facts.htm

                                      Some interesting stuff here. By the way arrested and fined for blocking traffic, perfect.

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                                        https://m.landofthebrave.info/boston-tea-party-facts.htm

                                        Some interesting stuff here. By the way arrested and fined for blocking traffic, perfect.

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        https://m.landofthebrave.info/boston-tea-party-facts.htm

                                        Some interesting stuff here. By the way arrested and fined for blocking traffic, perfect.

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                                        WSS

                                        Reading the fact sheet...and found this to be funny\ironic, that an act of rebellion by British subject (at the time) was on Guy Fawkes Day.

                                        Boston Tea Party Fact 27On November 5, 1773, Guy Fawkes Day, celebrated as Pope’s Day in colonial Boston, Samuel Adams called a town meeting at Faneuil Hall in response to the β€œtea crisis” and declared anyone who aids or abets the β€œunloading receiving or vending the tea is an enemy to America!”

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                                          Boston Tea party = peaceful. Liberals love to change definitions to make fake justifications for their emotional knee jerking.

                                          : devoid of violence or force The opposing groups used peaceful tactics.

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