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  • @tour2ma said:

    I think it was Riddick that was commenting on the Hue-Dobbs connection at the Sr. Bowl and the progress Dobbs made under Hue's tutelage through the week.

    I can't shake the feeling he's the guy we have our eye on.

    I'm going back and watching tape on him this week when I have some time. He checks every single box as far as size, intangibles, and athletic ability. Biggest concerns for me are his footwork and his ability to process reads - both of which seem to be general-consensus knocks on him. One can be fixed...while the other could be as well.

    If the guy is anything, it's smart.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If the guy is anything, it's smart.

    If he's so smart, then why shave the eyebrows? I mean seriously... that look is a deal breaker. Even Shazier gave that shit up. At best he's dodging drug tests...

    Hadn't really watched Dobbs except for Sr. Bowl, when I thought he looked lost, but WTF... who needs sleep. So pulled up what was statistically his best game vs. Vandy... plus I can see a little Kamara and Zack C.

    Pretty well bored to tears in 1st half with a lot of predetermined, quick throws to WRs since Vandy was giving steady 10-yd cushions with some fairly uninspiring read-option keepers mixed in. Pretty soon began to realize that the throws were quick, pretty accurrate and had zip. Then late there was a nice pump fake and TD throw to a wide-open WR.

    Then came...

    Good bit to like in that one play... then he went kinda limp the rest of the way.

    Dunno...

    Saw a flash, but not enough.

    Nice release... seems to "push" a lot of short to intermediate balls. I think in part that's why the above highlighted play jumped out at me... he cut one loose.

    More than a few times I thought of Terrell Pryor in his Ohio State days.

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    Dude, he has a condition....

  • @ballpeen said:

    We aren't taking a QB at #1 and we aren't passing on Garrett.

    I doubt we take a QB at 12 unless it is part of a trade. I am thinking Nate Peterman with one of the 2nd rounders. A good looking prospect not many talk about.

    And why....considering that a QB IS the #1 priority...the #1 biggest hole this team has?

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    @the-gipper said:

    And why....considering that a QB IS the #1 priority...the #1 biggest hole this team has?

    Because even though some feel Mitch is the #1 QB in the class, that doesn't mean the QB class is all that talented. He just sits on top of it.

    You want to take a QB with 13 college starts and wait 2-3 years to get him groomed, go for it. The sad reality is the team needs to get immediate impact out of it's top drafted players. Garrett brings that immediate impact, and in case you haven't noticed, pass rusher is a position of big need, and not all that far behind QB in overall impact to a team.

    I like Peterman out of Pitt. He has the skills, and he played in a pro-set O. One less thing for him to transition going in to the pros. We could probably get him late 2nd, early 3rd and allow him a year or two to grow.

    Sorry, you just can't sprinkle magic dust on a QB, draft him #1, and call him your franchie guy. Well, you can, but it isn't going to make it so. If Mitch is there at 12, I could see us taking him there. It isn';t going to happen at 1.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If the guy is anything, it's smart.

    If he's so smart, then why shave the eyebrows? I mean seriously... that look is a deal breaker. Even Shazier gave that shit up. At best he's dodging drug tests...

    Hadn't really watched Dobbs except for Sr. Bowl, when I thought he looked lost, but WTF... who needs sleep. So pulled up what was statistically his best game vs. Vandy... plus I can see a little Kamara and Zack C.

    Pretty well bored to tears in 1st half with a lot of predetermined, quick throws to WRs since Vandy was giving steady 10-yd cushions with some fairly uninspiring read-option keepers mixed in. Pretty soon began to realize that the throws were quick, pretty accurrate and had zip. Then late there was a nice pump fake and TD throw to a wide-open WR.

    Then came...

    Good bit to like in that one play... then he went kinda limp the rest of the way.

    Dunno...

    Saw a flash, but not enough.

    Nice release... seems to "push" a lot of short to intermediate balls. I think in part that's why the above highlighted play jumped out at me... he cut one loose.

    More than a few times I thought of Terrell Pryor in his Ohio State days.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    If he's so smart, then why shave the eyebrows? I mean seriously... that look is a deal breaker. Even Shazier gave that shit up. At best he's dodging drug tests...

    Hadn't really watched Dobbs except for Sr. Bowl, when I thought he looked lost, but WTF... who needs sleep. So pulled up what was statistically his best game vs. Vandy... plus I can see a little Kamara and Zack C.

    Pretty well bored to tears in 1st half with a lot of predetermined, quick throws to WRs since Vandy was giving steady 10-yd cushions with some fairly uninspiring read-option keepers mixed in. Pretty soon began to realize that the throws were quick, pretty accurrate and had zip. Then late there was a nice pump fake and TD throw to a wide-open WR.

    Then came...

    Good bit to like in that one play... then he went kinda limp the rest of the way.

    Dunno...

    Saw a flash, but not enough.

    Nice release... seems to "push" a lot of short to intermediate balls. I think in part that's why the above highlighted play jumped out at me... he cut one loose.

    More than a few times I thought of Terrell Pryor in his Ohio State days.

    He has alopecia

  • You guys are talking about pre-draft grades from NFL experts, something I haven't mentioned at all. But I appreciate your attempt to stop the repetition anyway.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @wargograw said:

    You guys are talking about pre-draft grades from NFL experts, something I haven't mentioned at all. But I appreciate your attempt to stop the repetition anyway.

    Ketchup, baby tomato.

  • @tour2ma said:

    If he's so smart, then why shave the eyebrows? I mean seriously... that look is a deal breaker. Even Shazier gave that shit up. At best he's dodging drug tests...

    Hadn't really watched Dobbs except for Sr. Bowl, when I thought he looked lost, but WTF... who needs sleep. So pulled up what was statistically his best game vs. Vandy... plus I can see a little Kamara and Zack C.

    Pretty well bored to tears in 1st half with a lot of predetermined, quick throws to WRs since Vandy was giving steady 10-yd cushions with some fairly uninspiring read-option keepers mixed in. Pretty soon began to realize that the throws were quick, pretty accurrate and had zip. Then late there was a nice pump fake and TD throw to a wide-open WR.

    Then came...

    Good bit to like in that one play... then he went kinda limp the rest of the way.

    Dunno...

    Saw a flash, but not enough.

    Nice release... seems to "push" a lot of short to intermediate balls. I think in part that's why the above highlighted play jumped out at me... he cut one loose.

    More than a few times I thought of Terrell Pryor in his Ohio State days.

    He has alopecia

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He has alopecia

    Never heard of it... still weirds me out...

    Thoughts on my other impressions?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    He has alopecia

    Never heard of it... still weirds me out...

    Thoughts on my other impressions?

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @tour2ma said:

    Never heard of it... still weirds me out...

    Thoughts on my other impressions?

    Essentially, his immune system progressively rejects his hair. It's essentially extreme hair loss on a full-body scale. Most people with the condition end up just shaving their head so they don't look patchy.

    The Tennessee offense was not conducive to his growth - he came out as a four-star Pro Style quarterback then stagnated in Tennessee's offensive system. I get bored watching their games, the offensive is predicated on quick throws, screens and mismatches and then not very many successful runs to break it up. On top of that, Dobbs really doesn't take too many shots down field at all. But that's not to say he can't - he has a slightly above average arm and his deep balls have a nice trajectory on them. I like

    - even though it was an incompletion, the ball traveled about 45-50 yards in the air (from the 40 and short hash to opposite front corner of the end zone) and it was timely delivered at a good trajectory and maybe just a hair underthrown.
    - almost a perfect throw that travels about 45 yards at a nice clip... and his receiver just dropped it.

    He can read the field, he commands that offense, and he has the ability to deliver the ball where he wants. He tends to do too much, which I think is just a direct result of being in an offense that isn't conducive to big plays and due to them losing their starting runningback unexpectedly early in the year (he flat out quit).

    are an example of him taking advantage of a defense with his athletic ability, similar to what Prescott so often did at Miss. State.

    He has plenty of flaws - but who doesn't. His flaws aren't gamebreakers, however. His footwork is pretty bad and it seems like he doesn't trust himself on throws over the middle very often. But according to reports from the Senior Bowl, Hue loved him and said he was progressing on a daily basis - so much so that Dobbs ended up getting double the reps of any other QB.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Sorry... don't see Dak... I see Pryor...

  • Sorry... don't see Dak... I see Pryor...

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Sorry... don't see Dak... I see Pryor...

    That's fine. Few people saw Wilson in Wilson. Even fewer people saw Dak in Dak. And even fewer saw Brady in Brady.

    Not to say that Dobbs is any of them, just that it is impossible to gauge what a player will do when he enters the league. That's why I value work ethic above all...which is unfortunately impossible to quantify.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    On a related note.....another QB most associated with the Tits (though his actual last roster spot on an NFL team was with the Browns):

    Vince Young signs up to play for Saskatchewan of the CFL.

    Now....what needs to happen is that Vince needs to have a talk with both Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel to tell those hosers that

    CehNehDeh is cool.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    CenNehDeh is JM's fallback if he gets no bites in the NFL.

  • CenNehDeh is JM's fallback if he gets no bites in the NFL.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @texasag1969 said:

    CenNehDeh is JM's fallback if he gets no bites in the NFL.

    OK eh. CehNehDeh it will be I think.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    CenNehDeh is JM's fallback if he gets no bites in the NFL.

    OK eh. CehNehDeh it will be I think.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    OK eh. CehNehDeh it will be I think.

    Most likely.