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  • This move is getting a lot of praise on twitter

  • This move I like a lot.

  • From Packers. Great move

  • I have been pushing Tretter for a while now..

    Good lord, a solid FA move by Cleveland? Who is pulling the strings in Berea, and what blackmail material does he have on Haslam to keep his yap shut?

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I would still like a T to compete with Erving. I don't like us essentially handing over the keys to him...which is what we're doing if we don't resign Paz.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I would still like a T to compete with Erving. I don't like us essentially handing over the keys to him...which is what we're doing if we don't resign Paz.

    Shon Coleman definitely will compete....and maybe Drango. I expect Coleman to start performing well now in his second year. Remember how the Schwartz was considered perhaps a bad pick after his rookie year...but came on in year 2? I expect/hope the same for both Coleman and Drango.

    Remember....Coleman and Drango are this FO's "guys". Erving is not. Erving has a much, much shorter leash.

    Would not be surprised to see him dumped....if not soon...perhaps even cut in training camp.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @londonbrown said:

    I think Tretter means no dice for Zietler, that would be four highly paid guys on the OL?

    I think it's probably a pre-season battle between Cam and Coleman for the RT spot

    I could still see us being in the Zeitler competition. We may invest heavily in the OL and try to develop a QB behind a wall of an offensive line a la Dallas and Oakland.

    Which points even further toward us taking a guy like Dobbs or Peterman this year IMO

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could still see us being in the Zeitler competition. We may invest heavily in the OL and try to develop a QB behind a wall of an offensive line a la Dallas and Oakland.

    Which points even further toward us taking a guy like Dobbs or Peterman this year IMO

    Nope....they would not make that investment into the OL for an afterthought. If they do go Garrett at 1...that #12 would be a QB I think.

  • OsirisO Osiris

    @londonbrown said:

    I think Tretter means no dice for Zietler, that would be four highly paid guys on the OL?

    I think it's probably a pre-season battle between Cam and Coleman for the RT spot

    I'm not sure that Tretter will be so highly paid as people expect. Remember, he's only started 10 games in his career. He gets injured a lot, but he is versatile.

    @osiris said:

    I'm not sure that Tretter will be so highly paid as people expect. Remember, he's only started 10 games in his career. He gets injured a lot, but he is versatile.

    Is he really any good? 10 games? He may be an upgrade from Erving....what about from Reiter?

    Could they still go for an OC in like the 3rd round?

    Don't be surprised.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I would still like a T to compete with Erving. I don't like us essentially handing over the keys to him...which is what we're doing if we don't resign Paz.

    Shon Coleman definitely will compete....and maybe Drango. I expect Coleman to start performing well now in his second year. Remember how the Schwartz was considered perhaps a bad pick after his rookie year...but came on in year 2? I expect/hope the same for both Coleman and Drango.

    Remember....Coleman and Drango are this FO's "guys". Erving is not. Erving has a much, much shorter leash.

    Would not be surprised to see him dumped....if not soon...perhaps even cut in training camp.

    @the-gipper said:

    Shon Coleman definitely will compete....and maybe Drango. I expect Coleman to start performing well now in his second year. Remember how the Schwartz was considered perhaps a bad pick after his rookie year...but came on in year 2? I expect/hope the same for both Coleman and Drango.

    Remember....Coleman and Drango are this FO's "guys". Erving is not. Erving has a much, much shorter leash.

    Would not be surprised to see him dumped....if not soon...perhaps even cut in training camp.

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @osiris said:

    I'm not sure that Tretter will be so highly paid as people expect. Remember, he's only started 10 games in his career. He gets injured a lot, but he is versatile.

    Is he really any good? 10 games? He may be an upgrade from Erving....what about from Reiter?

    Could they still go for an OC in like the 3rd round?

    Don't be surprised.

    @the-gipper said:

    Is he really any good? 10 games? He may be an upgrade from Erving....what about from Reiter?

    Could they still go for an OC in like the 3rd round?

    Don't be surprised.

    I believe he's ranked as a top-10 center when he's playing.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
  • L LondonBrown

    I think Tretter means no dice for Zietler, that would be four highly paid guys on the OL?

    I think it's probably a pre-season battle between Cam and Coleman for the RT spot

    @londonbrown said:

    I think it's probably a pre-season battle between Cam and Coleman for the RT spot

    I predict a 1st round knock-out...

    Tretter? Nice piece, but nothing to get to excited about. I think the starting Center battle will be closer than the RT one. Don't forget Fabiano...

    Even without signing Zeitler I now have to wonder about Greco's future with us.

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  • Good point, Greco had the Lisfranc recently.. perhaps they know something not shared yet regarding rehab progress. To be fair, Greco's not as young as he used to be and perhaps they're planning on cutting anyway.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @the-gipper said:

    Shon Coleman definitely will compete....and maybe Drango. I expect Coleman to start performing well now in his second year. Remember how the Schwartz was considered perhaps a bad pick after his rookie year...but came on in year 2? I expect/hope the same for both Coleman and Drango.

    Remember....Coleman and Drango are this FO's "guys". Erving is not. Erving has a much, much shorter leash.

    Would not be surprised to see him dumped....if not soon...perhaps even cut in training camp.

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    @bbedward said:

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    My buddy is dyed in the wool Auburn freak... Has oohed and ahhed about Coleman since the day we drafted him. Kid has a BIG rep in Alabama. Tide went for him HARD.

  • alporciniA alporcini

    @bbedward said:

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    My buddy is dyed in the wool Auburn freak... Has oohed and ahhed about Coleman since the day we drafted him. Kid has a BIG rep in Alabama. Tide went for him HARD.

    @alporcini said:

    Tide went for him HARD.

    This is a great story with tremendous insight regarding the 2017 Cleveland Browns.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    @tour2ma said:

    No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    Tour:

  • Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

    @tour2ma said:

    Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

    Did some reading about him. He sounds an awful lot like Erving but the Browns have nothing in the guy. Kick the tires.

  • All of these OL signings are good news. Plenty of competition at Center. The Guard position is improved. Greco can now heal properly and backup Guard and Center. Erving is gonna have to be a respectable RT or he's gonna be another 1st round pick casualty. (Erving not tied to this regime, obviously)

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  • Yup... Greco to the PUP list seems a likely "stash". As a true OG/OT swingman, Drango looks to be the safest non-starter.

    Resolving our OT depth is going to be interesting.

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  • Article on Tretter and Zeitler with a bunch of gif highlights... and some really bad "analysis".

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/kevin_zeitler_jc_tretter_cleve.html

    Never saw Tretter drive block and only one example of him anchoring... and in that one instance I really am not sure the NT was giving his all. Did see him hold... twice...

    The guy looks quick and agile just as a ZBS Center should for a ZBS team, which the Packers are, but we're a power run game team, so we shall see.

    Zeitler? No brainer... although I've no idea what he and the OT were doing on their pull left. It almost looked like Zeit handed off the CB by design... weird..

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