Pryor to Redskins
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3m bonus...3m salary...2m incentives. Check out the skins tweeter feed...9 second Pryor video where you can see just how pleased he is to be on DC
No reciprocity from Pryor towards Hue.
Hue basically saved his career, twice. Brought him to Cincy after Pettine let him go, and brought him to Cleveland.
Free Agency, plus Rosenhaus= anarchy.
Watch...TP ends up "back home" in Pittsburgh in 2018, after the Steelers let Antonio Brown go.
Would be nice for drew to get some face time about how badly he fucked up.No reciprocity from Pryor towards Hue.
Hue basically saved his career, twice. Brought him to Cincy after Pettine let him go, and brought him to Cleveland.
Free Agency, plus Rosenhaus= anarchy.
Watch...TP ends up "back home" in Pittsburgh in 2018, after the Steelers let Antonio Brown go.
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i heard on The Fan on the drive home Browns offered pretty much the same deal they gave Britt to Pryor even after they signed Britt but he wanted the one year deal and Browns offered 8 mil a year for 3 or 4 years...
Huge dice roll for Pryor. He really needs this year to go extremely well if he wants to get more... kind of a strange team to go to for that kinda need... Cousins isn't even a sure thing to be there?... dicey move... I think I would have taken the multi year.
i heard on The Fan on the drive home Browns offered pretty much the same deal they gave Britt to Pryor even after they signed Britt but he wanted the one year deal and Browns offered 8 mil a year for 3 or 4 years...
.. I think I would have taken the multi year.
The TP year deal speaks volumes that he won't trust Haslem breathing down Hue's neck after coming off a 1-15 season..The Multi year deal had no chance imho. was there any opt out discussed in long deal? looks like he don't trust DC either
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I'm disappointed. And I find it difficult to understand. I don't get his rationale. I don't get the Browns'. Only winner here is the Washington Redskins.
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I keep thinking of the Aesop's fable about the little dog with a bone in his mouth looking into the pond and seeing another dog with another bone......
(by the way Xxxxxxxxxxxxx this is not a reference to you just because of the bone in the mouth bit
)WSS
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Any minute now MKC will report "we pulled our offer" and some fans will go batshit ballistic...
Here's my best guess at how the dealing went:
- We offered a multi-year package essentially identical to Britt's.
- TP said, "I'm going shopping."
- We said, "OK, but don't be too long. We have a need and have to start looking."
- We looked; TP shopped.
- We found; we called; we asked; TP said still shopping.
- We said, "Good luck," and signed Britt.
- The End...
How long were we supposed to dick around waiting on TP?
96 hours that long of a time?
96 hours that long of a time?
just as pissed as yourself. We lost a good WR today. agent tampering starts at combine. but Drew got a good 4 month head start dealing with SB..just think TP's final thoughts were. let's do it again in a year. lets play with the chance of better QB play. Let's play with a team build to win..They all feed the $$ factor next FA period
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Not sure I'm following you, t...
Are you saying to wait another 4 days and potentially end up signing no WR and losing TP?
I meant overall since TP took his visit to DC. That said, what I've had time to read now indicates this was a major fuck up from super Drew his agent. I still feel Pryor and Kenny can coexist on the field together, it just sucks seeing that kind of potential not retained regardless of the reason.
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Pryor owes the Browns at least a thank you card. He had been cut by numerous NFL teams before the Browns signed him and it seemed obvious he was never going to be an NFL quarterback. The Browns took a chance on him and worked to develop him as a wide receiver which saved his NFL career.
Pryor owes the Browns at least a thank you card. He had been cut by numerous NFL teams before the Browns signed him and it seemed obvious he was never going to be an NFL quarterback. The Browns took a chance on him and worked to develop him as a wide receiver which saved his NFL career.
Look who came up for air! Welcome to the light...
Agree... Browns and Hue in particular...
I meant overall since TP took his visit to DC. That said, what I've had time to read now indicates this was a major fuck up from super Drew his agent. I still feel Pryor and Kenny can coexist on the field together, it just sucks seeing that kind of potential not retained regardless of the reason.
Gotcha...
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Wow. I can't understand this move from TP's perspective. Could this decision result in a big pay day next Spring? Maybe. Could it result in disaster? Maybe. Why would you take that risk and leave a great offer on the table? I think he should fire his agent. Big screw-up. HUGE!
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Guess we offered 4 yr 32m, and he walked.
Burned that bridge.
Later!
PS: fire your agent.
End of the day, his agent fucked him. Kept filling his ear about how much he was REALLY worth then went out and found he was only worth that $8 million. Instead of taking the sure thing with us for the same price and alot more up front, he now has to hope to god he matches or out performs from last year.
Good job Drew. We knew you were hard to deal with.
3m bonus...3m salary...2m incentives. Check out the skins tweeter feed...9 second Pryor video where you can see just how pleased he is to be on DC
I suppose he's happy to be signed by any team. LOL
1year deal 8 million. Why couldn't we keep him
Because Pryor thought he was worth more than that. Found out not. Browns offered 4 years @ $8 million. He's betting on himself he has a monster year, and in 2018 can cash in to get top 10 WR money. Heck, if he had produced a monster year with the Browns, I'm sure he would have gotten renegotiated upwards.
I'll buy Sashi's logic that he's not irreplaceable. That #33 pick could now be used on Corey Davis or Curtis Samuel who have 1-2 round grades on them. Mike Williams will be long gone, maybe even @ #12. PS- John Ross, he of the 4.2 speed is a racehorse with an injury history. I'd pass. http://walterfootball.com/draft2017WR.php
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I understand why TP did this but it was a jerk move. Unlike a rookie standout coming off his first contract, TP only has one shot at the big contract. My guess is:
-TP wanted a big long term contract.
-Browns offered contract they offered to Britt.
-TP realized he wasn't going to get a big long term contract so tried to get a 1-year contract from Browns,
- Browns said no. From moneyball perspective they want to pay him for what he is now and hope he would outplay his contract. They can't do that if they have to resign him again in a year.
-TP signs with Skins to get that 1 year deal.
From a money standpoint. What happened made sense for both sides. I'm just disappointed that all that talk from TP was just lip service.
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Even despite this fact, NO RECEIVERS THIS DRAFT.
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Even despite this fact, NO RECEIVERS THIS DRAFT.
?? you mean Browns?? We don't know that yet.
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Id be happy with a Zay Jones or Malachi Dupre on day three
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I have to agree...But even tho he's generally an abrasive personality, kinda feel bad for him.@boo-fagley said:
1 year contracts are a death sentence.
Pryor is a fool.
Another poster suggested drew (and likely family and friends) were constantly in his ear and convinced him he knew what was best for him. I do think he wanted to be here, but got caught up in the moment and is having some serious buyers remorse. How drew convinced him to not come back to the browns offer is puzzling though.
Would love to have been a fly on the wall when drew was explaining wtf just happened to Pryor. "Drew, the browns offered me more, gave me a chance, and I like hue." " Look Terrell, I know it didn't work out when I told you you'd make big money as a QB, and I know I told you the big money was coming this year as a WR. But I promise you, I'll....Er...We'll cash in big next year."
Tldr, drew was too proud to admit he fucked up, secured his client a inferior contract rather than tuck tail.
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Even despite this fact, NO RECEIVERS THIS DRAFT.
?? you mean Browns?? We don't know that yet.
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this is an extremely important point. Some folks are irrate because "all we had to do was pay him more", but that sets a bad precedent and makes future deals much more difficult.@boo-fagley said:
Every other Browns player would want more money if Cleveland caved.
Schwartz and now Pryor and Jefferson have shown the NFL world the brown know player value and offer fair deals. Those players all took less to play elsewhere.
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this is an extremely important point. Some folks are irrate because "all we had to do was pay him more", but that sets a bad precedent and makes future deals much more difficult.@boo-fagley said:
Every other Browns player would want more money if Cleveland caved.
Schwartz and now Pryor and Jefferson have shown the NFL world the brown know player value and offer fair deals. Those players all took less to play elsewhere.
this is an extremely important point. Some folks are irrate because "all we had to do was pay him more", but that sets a bad precedent and makes future deals much more difficult.
Schwartz and now Pryor and Jefferson have shown the NFL world the brown know player value and offer fair deals. Those players all took less to play elsewhere.
Yeah, good ole Mike Florio ripped Cleveland for showing Pryor NO love or respect at all almost as if it wasn't the only franchise that gave the unemployed WR a job. What a kick in the adam's apple there because instead of trying to be a high school football coach somewhere - the poor guy had to see only 1 other team interested in paying him $8 million. And then, he signed a contract with Washington for the same insulting salary. I am so happy for the brat and Rosenhaus.
I get a kick out of how much people suddenly LIKED the Schwartz they always used to complain about in pass pro here. The used to over-exaggerate how bad he was all the way up until Pro football Focus crowned him the Gran Poo Bah of RTs. The only guy I remembered typing good things about Schwartz prior to PFF was Tour when he did his weekly summaries of game film study. That's not to say a few others didn't, he's just the only one I recalled. And magically, when we didn't KEEP him - he suddenly had the most fans on the team next to Alex Mack of course.
And BTW, Taylor Gabriel never had more fans for his 1 TD reception here in 2 years and his yards per catch that went down from 17.3 to 8.6 in life after Kyle Shanahan here with Flip's offense. So GUESS where he went so he could be meaningful? Kyle Shanahan's offense that included Matt Ryan, Julio Jones and a good running game which got 7 TD receptions out of him. Yeah, that's where Mack went too.And just out of curiosity WHY did Kyle Shanahan want out of Cleveland? Could it have been the unparalleled professionalism of Ray Farmer influencing the desire to leave?
It's also funny how 100% of our problems today inexplicably have zero to do with the sum of all decisions from 1999 through 2015. There couldn't have possibly been any land mines for a first year regime to side-step.
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