Skip to content

Browns trade for BROCK OSWEILER

The Browns Board
264 57 11.3k
  • @tour2ma said:

    Yeah, he did... just being an ass taking a rule of thumb to an extreme because he thinks he scored a point. Pfffft...

    Because hyperbolic arguments contain some new form of validity?

    @choco said:

    Because hyperbolic arguments contain some new form of validity?

    That's my best guess as well...

  • @gumby73 said:

    Get Well soon!! For visual sake please have Z change your name temporary to Got Milk? Got Boned? how bout Da' Bone? 😎 heal up. ghools is looking a Evil Knievel on roster

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    @d-bone said:

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

  • @hoorta said:

    or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts?

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    @clevfan4life said:

    We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    We have?

  • @hoorta said:

    or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts?

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    @tour2ma said:

    We have?

    Regarding the o-line, it's the old saw the chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Yeah Thomas, Bitonio, and Mack are individually pro bowl. Do you think an opposing defensive coordinator is going to bother attacking a strength? Nope, we're heading through unabated on the garbage right side. 🙂

    Currently, the only question is going to be at right tackle. I should add Barnidge is a liability if he's called on to block.

  • @d-bone said:

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

    Sounds like you totally get it! 😁 I have prevented two already..... I've never pushed my tongue against the roof of my mouth so hard.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    Why do you even continue?

  • "boo's gonna need a bigger font..." - Chief Brody

  • @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    True...

    Also true? No one will "record it" as a 2017 1st rounder...

  • @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    how does the manner in which websites track assets have anything to do with the real time value of said asset?


  • Interesting. @AllbrightNFL just told @NickWilson923 there was a team that called the Browns to trade a late pick for Osweiler w/no eating $$


  • I was watching Jeopardy last night and the clue was "Only team willing to trade for Brock Osweiler" and we all know the answer.

  • It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

  • It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

    @choco said:

    It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

    Because they whiffed on a serious piece like Tony Jefferson, added a journeyman underachiever like Kenny Britt and will use this as somehow proving they know what the fuck they're doing.

    Great they are smart enough to spend $16 million of money they refuse to allocate on real talent to draft another Shon Coleman, kudos to the back office

  • Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

  • Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

    @choco said:

    Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

    You overpay like they did for Collins & Taylor. That's what you do when your organization is a tire fire but hey we spent $16 million of unallocated resources for #55 in 2018

  • No, that's what silly fans do with no executive experience when discussing other people money.

  • No, that's what silly fans do with no executive experience when discussing other people money.

    @choco said:

    No, that's what silly fans do with no executive experience when discussing other people money.

    So they didn't overpay Collins & Taylor?

    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/01/cleveland_browns_overpaying_to.html

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/23/browns-finalize-four-year-deal-for-jamie-collins/

  • No...Competitive contracts for former 2nd rounders that are coming into their prime. Have you looked at their contracts or are you assuming?

  • No...Competitive contracts for former 2nd rounders that are coming into their prime. Have you looked at their contracts or are you assuming?

    @choco said:

    No...Competitive contracts for former 2nd rounders that are coming into their prime. Have you looked at their contracts or are you assuming?

    Taylor has had 1 productive year in the NFL and couldn't get on the field in Miami $5 million per.

    And don't take my word on Collins, read the articles.

    Now I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have signed Collins or Taylor but giving Jefferson more money makes more sense than allocating resources trying to renegotiate a contract for a bum who you hope to pawn off on another bottom feeder for another draft pick.

    Maybe the 49ers, Jags or Jets get involved and give the Browns a 3rd rounder for a restructured Osweiler so the Browns end up getting #55 & #65 for $4 million. On it's face that is a great deal but that only works if the guys you draft are worth anything. There are current free agents that have proven on the field that they can contribute and I'd rather see them in Browns jerseys.

  • Oh, ok...So rather than look at other LB salaries and form your own opinion, you're taking the opinions of other writers and accepting it as fact. Fair enough. I'm not against overpaying top talent, which Collins is.

    With respect to Jefferson, what you're suggesting is the browns bid against themselves, and cave to players demands...Which is a terrible idea and voluntarily surrenders leverage in all future negotiations. That's detrimental to the long term health of the team and short sighted. They offered him the most, he declined. Time to move on.

    Taylor could simply be a case of a player developing. Maybe if you stop thinking past performance dictates future results, this would help you see why his deal is fair and certainly not overpaying. See what Gilmore got? Great player get big contracts. Taylor got a fair contract for his play.