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House bypasses govenor's veto to claim Okalahoma's sovereignty

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    House bypasses governor’s veto to claim Oklahoma’s sovereignty</H1>Although Gov. Brad Henry vetoed similar legislation 10 days earlier, House members Monday again approved a resolution claiming Oklahoma’s sovereignty.

    Unlike House Joint Resolution 1003, House Concurrent Resolution 1028 does not need the governor’s approval. </H3>

    The House passed the measure 73-22. It now goes to the Senate.

    "We’re going to get it done one way or the other,” said the resolutions’ author, Rep. Charles Key, R-Oklahoma City.

    "I think our governor is out of step.”

    House Democrats objected, saying the issue already had been taken up and had been vetoed, but House Speaker Pro Tempore Kris Steele, R-Shawnee, ruled the veto is not final action.

    Key said he expects HCR 1028 will pass in the Senate. HJR 1003 earlier passed the House 83-18 and won approval in the Senate 29-18.

    Henry vetoed HJR 1003 because he said it suggested, among other things, that Oklahoma should return federal tax dollars.

    Key said HCR 1028, which, if passed, would be sent to Democratic President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress, would not jeopardize federal funds but would tell Congress to "get back into their proper constitutional role.” The resolution states the federal government should "cease and desist” mandates that are beyond the scope of its powers.

    Key said many federal laws violate the 10th Amendment, which says powers not delegated to the U.S. government "are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.” The Constitution lists about 20 duties required of the U.S. government, he said.

    Congress should not be providing bailouts to financial institutions and automakers, he said. "We give all this money to all these different entities, including automakers, and now they’re talking about, ‘Well maybe it’s better to let them go bankrupt,’” Key said. "Well, maybe we should have let them go bankrupt before we gave them the money..”

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      Montana sovereignty bills have national scope

      Associated Press - April 15, 2009 5:24 PM ET

      HELENA, Mont. (AP) - Gov. Brian Schweitzer has signed into law a bill that aims to exempt Montana-made guns from federal regulation.

      House Bill 246 was sponsored by Republican Rep. Joel Boniek of Livingston. It applies only to guns made and kept in Montana. Its supporters hope it triggers a court case to test the legal basis for federal rules governing gun sales.

      The measure is 1 of many introduced this year by state lawmakers across the nation that seek to assert state sovereignty.

      Along with the gun bill, Montana legislators are also considering a resolution that affirms the federal government only has those powers listed in the U.S. Constitution.

      House Resolution 3 follows an effort that failed earlier this session. It was heard Wednesday by the House Judiciary Committee.

      Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

      We can add Montana to the list of Disgruntled States of America, Very Nice.

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        Montana sovereignty bills have national scope

        Associated Press - April 15, 2009 5:24 PM ET

        HELENA, Mont. (AP) - Gov. Brian Schweitzer has signed into law a bill that aims to exempt Montana-made guns from federal regulation.

        House Bill 246 was sponsored by Republican Rep. Joel Boniek of Livingston. It applies only to guns made and kept in Montana. Its supporters hope it triggers a court case to test the legal basis for federal rules governing gun sales.

        The measure is 1 of many introduced this year by state lawmakers across the nation that seek to assert state sovereignty.

        Along with the gun bill, Montana legislators are also considering a resolution that affirms the federal government only has those powers listed in the U.S. Constitution.

        House Resolution 3 follows an effort that failed earlier this session. It was heard Wednesday by the House Judiciary Committee.

        Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

        We can add Montana to the list of Disgruntled States of America, Very Nice.

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        @mr.-t said:

        We can add Montana to the list of Disgruntled Redneck States.

        Sorry, but if a state decides they want to become sovereign over non-existent gun laws, then adios.

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          Congress should not be providing bailouts to financial institutions and automakers, he said. "We give all this money to all these different entities, including automakers, and now they’re talking about, ‘Well maybe it’s better to let them go bankrupt,’” Key said. "Well, maybe we should have let them go bankrupt before we gave them the money..”

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          Exactly. The Bushama's went and funded these bailouts to prevent the bankruptcies that are happening.

          Sounds like failed policies on Bush's and Obama's part.

          Our country is having to borrow something like

          Economic permanent indebtedness. Why? The result is expected by some experts to be disastrous.

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            Everyone would be better off if they let these companies fail and run this through the norm such as bankruptcy courts. Now we will owe 2 to 3 times more and it is the responsibility of every tax payer.

            But what do you expect from a bunch of socialists democrats who want to be entrepreneurs 🥷

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