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  • From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    Canton MikeC jrb12711J The GipperT 3 Replies
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    I honestly believe that NOT deferring the opening kickoff would help re playing from behind. Williams D may help, but I'm all for a rule change that if you win the coin toss, you receive the opening kickoff.

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    In the same vein I'd love to see him with a consistent QB where half the games the opposing D isn't stacking the box with 9 guys.

    The thing about him and a contract is that the Browns are far and away his best option for a good contract. As noted this draft is loaded with RB talent and there's some strong names available in FA (AP, Charles, etc). I don't think the open market is going to net him that much compared to what the Browns could provide.

  • Are you implying our HC is too dumb and needs a league regulation to call the coin toss?

  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tour2ma said:

    I really thought they'd use the tender process to resolve his value for the long term. Now this sets up as a "one more and done" situation.

    Agreed..matching offer sheet for Mack & matching tender on Gipson. neither worked the next season after, they get ugly quickly..I'll be watching Pitts James Conner at combine.A Power blocking front needs a power back. check out Conner's tape if you have not seen him

    @gumby73 said:

    Agreed..matching offer sheet for Mack & matching tender on Gipson. neither worked the next season after, they get ugly quickly..I'll be watching Pitts James Conner at combine.A Power blocking front needs a power back. check out Conner's tape if you have not seen him

    I've seen Connor. I think his future may lie at FB.

    No one's draft status will depend more upon a 40 time than his. There is a better than 50/50 chance he won't break 4.7 (and may well run closer to 4.8). If he doesn't break 4.7, then his 10-yd split will determine his fate.

    @nickers said:

    I think Crow is "Ok".. but he's not untouchable....

    Where Crow is on the "OK" to "untouchable" continuum is precisely the dispute the use of the original-status tender would have resolved.

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    From what I understand, both sides are still eager to work out a deal. Not sure it will happen, but I'd like a deal to get done for the right price. I'm just so interested to see what Crow could do in a season where we are in just about every game, and we don't need to give up on the run early in order to come back 20 points. I honestly believe the combination of Duke and Crow can work well in the right circumstances.

    I don't understand why someone would be upset by a team doing what they must do, like the situation here. Since Crowe has NOT agreed to a long term contract...the Browns MUST do what they did to keep his services.

    If Crowe doesn't like it, too bad. Grow the fuck up. This is the way this business is conducted. If you would sign a deal you would have no cause for alarm.

  • Any more news on a long term deal ?

  • darren15D darren15

    Any more news on a long term deal ?

    @darren15 said:

    Any more news on a long term deal ?

    Check back in June, my guess. If it's not done before the season it'll cost a lot more after, if that OL comes to fruition...

  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tour2ma said:

    I really thought they'd use the tender process to resolve his value for the long term. Now this sets up as a "one more and done" situation.

    Agreed..matching offer sheet for Mack & matching tender on Gipson. neither worked the next season after, they get ugly quickly..I'll be watching Pitts James Conner at combine.A Power blocking front needs a power back. check out Conner's tape if you have not seen him

    Long-term deal? Has he signed his tender?

    @gumby73 said:

    I'll be watching Pitts James Conner at combine.A Power blocking front needs a power back. check out Conner's tape if you have not seen him

    What did you think? Connor's 4.65-second 40-yd was better than I expected, but nearly every other measure was worse.

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    gumby73G 1 Reply

  • There's a report from Jeremy Fowler that three teams have "inquired" about Crow.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    There's a report from Jeremy Fowler that three teams have "inquired" about Crow.

    @tour2ma said:

    There's a report from Jeremy Fowler that three teams have "inquired" about Crow.

    I like Crow and think he would do damn good behind this new line. However, our front office really values those 2nd round picks.

  • The problem with crow is why he got yardage he also trips over his own feet alot. Im not sure id give him long term.

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  • Lol...Or perhaps cause he averaged 3.2 TPC after contact, 2nd in the league.

  • chocoC choco

    Lol...Or perhaps cause he averaged 3.2 TPC after contact, 2nd in the league.

    @choco said:

    Lol...Or perhaps cause he averaged 3.2 TPC after contact, 2nd in the league.

    He did but his balance could stand improvement. I've seen him fall over himself more than he should, not related to contact.

  • He's not worth a second rounder.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Long-term deal? Has he signed his tender?

    @gumby73 said:

    I'll be watching Pitts James Conner at combine.A Power blocking front needs a power back. check out Conner's tape if you have not seen him

    What did you think? Connor's 4.65-second 40-yd was better than I expected, but nearly every other measure was worse.

    @tour2ma said:

    What did you think? Connor's 4.65-second 40-yd was better than I expected, but nearly every other measure was worse.

    Never saw this till now T. 40 was fast for him. Connor & K.Hunt fit rounds we may use, unless they know Crow's real intentions. Both always push forward & run physical. Connor was thought to have better hands,Vision & balance but not to shifty..not to sure about hands after combine. as said "some guys run faster being chased".seems to fit James..(seen nothing on Pitt Pro day?)

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  • Pittsburgh pro-day is scheduled for March 22. Here is the full pro-day schedule for the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000787820/article/2017-nfl-draft-pro-day-schedule-and-results-by-date

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  • My position hasn't changed much on this since the original tender - anyone willing to give up a second round pick for Crowell is welcome to him. I'm happy to bring him back at that salary (2.8m?) and think he'd be pretty good behind our shiny new line, but there are plenty of serviceable backs available later in this draft or in free agency. Hell, even giving Duke Johnson more carries wouldn't be a horrible idea.

    If we keep him, great, if we get a second round pick for him, great. Maybe we can also throw Brock into the deal...

  • T TexasAg1969

    Pittsburgh pro-day is scheduled for March 22. Here is the full pro-day schedule for the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000787820/article/2017-nfl-draft-pro-day-schedule-and-results-by-date

    @texasag1969 said:

    Pittsburgh pro-day is scheduled for March 22. Here is the full pro-day schedule for the NFL.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000787820/article/2017-nfl-draft-pro-day-schedule-and-results-by-date

    Seems to me that a lot of these Pro Days should be combined...and maybe they are though I could not tell from this link. I know in the past a lot of the Ohio MAC schools would hold their Pro Days at Ohio St. when OSU was holding theirs.

  • Most big schools will do a pro day, but smaller school guys might latch on to other schools. I mean, if you're a receiver and your QB can't throw for shit, you don't want him to be the one to help you show off.

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