Pryor to Redskins
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Tour, how do you see next season's OL competition shaping up? It's good to be blessed.. but it's prognosticatin' time.
JT/Bitonio/Tretter/Zeitler/ ?
Pasztor vs Shon Coleman for the starting RT?
Drango / Greco for the one swing C/G roster spot?
Who gets cut or traded? Or do we keep 8 OL and call Drango a blocking TE?
Fabiano and Reiter.. are camp fodder?
Tour, how do you see next season's OL competition shaping up? It's good to be blessed.. but it's prognosticatin' time.
JT/Bitonio/Tretter/Zeitler/ ?
Pasztor vs Shon Coleman for the starting RT?
Drango / Greco for the one swing C/G roster spot?
Who gets cut or traded? Or do we keep 8 OL and call Drango a blocking TE?
Fabiano and Reiter.. are camp fodder?
Pasztor is, I believe a FA...and not signed with Browns. And it seems that perhaps they do not want him back. So don't count on him. Coleman/Drango maybe.
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Tour, how do you see next season's OL competition shaping up? It's good to be blessed.. but it's prognosticatin' time.
JT/Bitonio/Tretter/Zeitler/ ?
Pasztor vs Shon Coleman for the starting RT?
Drango / Greco for the one swing C/G roster spot?
Who gets cut or traded? Or do we keep 8 OL and call Drango a blocking TE?
Fabiano and Reiter.. are camp fodder?
Tour, how do you see next season's OL competition shaping up? It's good to be blessed.. but it's prognosticatin' time.
JT/Bitonio/Tretter/Zeitler/ ?
Pasztor vs Shon Coleman for the starting RT?
Drango / Greco for the one swing C/G roster spot?
Who gets cut or traded? Or do we keep 8 OL and call Drango a blocking TE?
Fabiano and Reiter.. are camp fodder?
First... Paz is gone as of now... floating in UFA-land. Last I heard the Texans were talking to him.
Second, Cam is the wild card. I think he'll get his RT shot thru Camp/preseason, fail at it and be cut... but he's led a charmed life so far, so I could well be wrong here.
Third, Greco... I wish I were more confident in his full recovery. I suspect he sees the PUP list early, but hope I am wrong.
I think the starting five look to be: Thomas - Bito - Tretter - Zeitler - Coleman. But I will say again, look for the starting Center competition to be the closest of the five.
Drango seems safe as our OG/OT swingman. I wish Paz was joining him, but he's not. Anyway Drango makes six.
With Cam gone and Greco on PUP, the last two slots can go to Reiter and Fabiano as OC/OG swingmen, but I doubt they do due to being thin at OT. One will have emerged from the Center competition as a contender, I suspect it will be Reiter, but that's only based upon the fact that he was the first to replace Cam in 2016. Fabs was good in his one appearance.
Right now the other OL on the roster include: Bailey, Ikard, Martin and Sterup. At 6'9 only Zack Sterup is a pure OT so give him the edge at sticking. However, we are still #1 in line on the waiver wire not to mention the draft and UDFA. One or both routes will add a PS candidate or two.
I don't see us adding an OL early in the draft, but then I'm the guy that did not think we'd aggressively add OL via FA...
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the nice thing is they have depth now. Fabiano, drango, greco and Reiter add both OC/OG depth. I think Coleman has a bright future and at some point he will need to be moved to the Left side. Erving wasn't terrible at tackle but he is never healthy either. I think erving gets traded for a very late round pick and the browns move forward with the line as is.
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Terry Pluto comes thru again...
Cleveland Browns Scribbles: Terrelle Pryor dropped ball on contract talks
By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer
on March 15, 2017 at 6:30 AM, updated March 15, 2017 at 6:31 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/03/cleveland_browns_scribbles_ter.html
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Well....there it is. A decent long term deal offered by the Browns. He...or his agent, snubs their nose at it. They test FA and find that ALL other teams do not think highly of him. And he comes back to the Browns, not even suggesting that he accept their original deal...but wants only a 1 year deal? The Browns would be absurd to take that. Long term deal or nothing they said. "We are not going to go through with you again next year".
Rightfully so.
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the nice thing is they have depth now. Fabiano, drango, greco and Reiter add both OC/OG depth. I think Coleman has a bright future and at some point he will need to be moved to the Left side. Erving wasn't terrible at tackle but he is never healthy either. I think erving gets traded for a very late round pick and the browns move forward with the line as is.
the nice thing is they have depth now. Fabiano, drango, greco and Reiter add both OC/OG depth. I think Coleman has a bright future and at some point he will need to be moved to the Left side. Erving wasn't terrible at tackle but he is never healthy either. I think erving gets traded for a very late round pick and the browns move forward with the line as is.
Erving's trade value is about zero. Assuming he flops @ RT, he'll probably get cut. Another team might pick him up to kick the tires.
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the nice thing is they have depth now. Fabiano, drango, greco and Reiter add both OC/OG depth. I think Coleman has a bright future and at some point he will need to be moved to the Left side. Erving wasn't terrible at tackle but he is never healthy either. I think erving gets traded for a very late round pick and the browns move forward with the line as is.
Erving's trade value is about zero. Assuming he flops @ RT, he'll probably get cut. Another team might pick him up to kick the tires.
Erving's trade value is about zero. Assuming he flops @ RT, he'll probably get cut. Another team might pick him up to kick the tires.
We thought that about Gilbert (sixth from steelers) and Mingo (fifth from Pats) as well...
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Those were both good values for those guys. What a fucked up FO we had in the guys that chose those guys #6 and #8 overall.
Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
WSS
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Those were both good values for those guys. What a fucked up FO we had in the guys that chose those guys #6 and #8 overall.
Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
WSS
Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
WSS
Well, it seems that your boy BB ended up having no use for him.....and we know how good a defensive coach he is, and if he thinks the guy can't cut the mustard, I think the pretty much tells you what you want to know about him.
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Those were both good values for those guys. What a fucked up FO we had in the guys that chose those guys #6 and #8 overall.
Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
WSS
Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
Are you talking to Belichick?
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Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
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Still seems like we could have found a use for Mingo if somebody had taking the time.
Are you talking to Belichick?
Are you talking to Belichick?
Oh just talking about anybody in general. Mingo always seemed like one of the good guys with some physical talent and I hate to see somebody like that fall short in the NFL. That's about it.
WSS
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Oh just talking about anybody in general. Mingo always seemed like one of the good guys with some physical talent and I hate to see somebody like that fall short in the NFL. That's about it.
WSS
I'm kinda with you on that. He had speed and size, and it seems like he could cover well enough. With the amount of 'mismatch' tight ends around these days, I'd rather see Mingo covering them than say Paul Kruger or Carl Nassib or someone. From a 4-3 OLB kind of spot you could see him in a coverage role with some occasional blitzing to use his speed around the edge maybe.
But what do I know - clearly nothing if even Billy B couldn't get anything out of him.
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Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
When the Browns have freshly-minted Super Bowl rings to flash around, I imagine they'll be able to pull that off. I bet BillyB said to Hightower, go establish your value on the market and then we'll come up with a contract. I doubt he was ever going to end up somewhere else (read this article after typing this up, but they are saying same thing).
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
All the Browns have to do is be a dynasty coming off of a Super Bowl win and the situations might be apples to apples.
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Oh just talking about anybody in general. Mingo always seemed like one of the good guys with some physical talent and I hate to see somebody like that fall short in the NFL. That's about it.
WSS
I hate to see high Cleveland Browns draft picks fall short. Yet...they almost all seem to do so. So...now we have two more. Are they going to turn into Mingos/Gilberts/Manziels....or something else, you know, like live up to their draft status.
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Well BillyB got Hightowter back after testing FA market. And the Browns can't seem to do this somehow.
When the Browns have freshly-minted Super Bowl rings to flash around, I imagine they'll be able to pull that off. I bet BillyB said to Hightower, go establish your value on the market and then we'll come up with a contract. I doubt he was ever going to end up somewhere else (read this article after typing this up, but they are saying same thing).
I bet BillyB said to Hightower, go establish your value on the market and then we'll come up with a contract.
And with the report I heard that Hightower is now the 2nd highest paid ILB in the league, I'd say it was mission accomplished.
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