Why hasn't this team embraced Osweiler?
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BUT, as the draft gets closer and closer I think Brock's value increases due to some organizations thinking they can make him work for them and not liking the QBs in this class. I could easily see a draft day trade for a 3rd round pick when right now that would never happen.
Certainly can see Brock's value increasing with time... Draft is one check point... TC/Preseason when QB injuries begin to hit is another.
Big question come the Draft is where do teams queue Brock in in this QB class? I'm not seeing a 3rd round grade, but some might.
Certainly can see Brock's value increasing with time... Draft is one check point... TC/Preseason when QB injuries begin to hit is another.
Big question come the Draft is where do teams queue Brock in in this QB class? I'm not seeing a 3rd round grade, but some might.
Remembering that the cowboys were enquiring after Josh McCown last summer and we said no - I can see a situation where a team throws something at us for Brockweiler.
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Not trying to disprove of your option but I have a question.
If the Browns would've signed Oz last year would you've been opposed to it?
Hmmm, looking back with as unbiased eyes as possible, yea I would've been fine with him over RG3 all day..... To be fair, I'm still not convinced he can't play and am 100% OK with keeping him and letting him fight it out in TC/early pre-season.
Elway also thought he was the guy last year, so there has to be something? The Texans are rivaling the Browns in terms of being a QB killer.
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Not trying to disprove of your option but I have a question.
If the Browns would've signed Oz last year would you've been opposed to it?
Hmmm, looking back with as unbiased eyes as possible, yea I would've been fine with him over RG3 all day..... To be fair, I'm still not convinced he can't play and am 100% OK with keeping him and letting him fight it out in TC/early pre-season.
Elway also thought he was the guy last year, so there has to be something? The Texans are rivaling the Browns in terms of being a QB killer.
Hmmm, looking back with as unbiased eyes as possible, yea I would've been fine with him over RG3 all day..... To be fair, I'm still not convinced he can't play and am 100% OK with keeping him and letting him fight it out in TC/early pre-season.
Elway also thought he was the guy last year, so there has to be something? The Texans are rivaling the Browns in terms of being a QB killer.
Or it may be the other way around. Some of the same QBs that killed us have killed them: Hoyer last year, Weeden has started some for them.
Though, you may be right. Here are their starting QBs the last 4 years:
2016 Brock Osweiler (14) / Tom Savage (2) [1]
2015 Brian Hoyer (9) / Ryan Mallett (4) / T. J. Yates (2) / Brandon Weeden (1) [2]
2014 Ryan Fitzpatrick (12) / Ryan Mallett (2) / Case Keenum (2) [3]
2013 Matt Schaub (8) / Case Keenum (8)
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BUT, as the draft gets closer and closer I think Brock's value increases due to some organizations thinking they can make him work for them and not liking the QBs in this class. I could easily see a draft day trade for a 3rd round pick when right now that would never happen.
Certainly can see Brock's value increasing with time... Draft is one check point... TC/Preseason when QB injuries begin to hit is another.
Big question come the Draft is where do teams queue Brock in in this QB class? I'm not seeing a 3rd round grade, but some might.
Certainly can see Brock's value increasing with time... Draft is one check point... TC/Preseason when QB injuries begin to hit is another.
Big question come the Draft is where do teams queue Brock in in this QB class? I'm not seeing a 3rd round grade, but some might.
You know, the only reason I may see it is because someone, somewhere (and hell it may be the Browns) will get that mindset of "Houston was the wrong offense".
Sure there were question marks, but there's a reason Brock Lobster was a coveted FA QB as well. Given he's young and he's shown flashes of being good might entice say SF or the Jets to think about it.
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Certainly can see Brock's value increasing with time... Draft is one check point... TC/Preseason when QB injuries begin to hit is another.
Big question come the Draft is where do teams queue Brock in in this QB class? I'm not seeing a 3rd round grade, but some might.
You know, the only reason I may see it is because someone, somewhere (and hell it may be the Browns) will get that mindset of "Houston was the wrong offense".
Sure there were question marks, but there's a reason Brock Lobster was a coveted FA QB as well. Given he's young and he's shown flashes of being good might entice say SF or the Jets to think about it.
You know, the only reason I may see it is because someone, somewhere (and hell it may be the Browns) will get that mindset of "Houston was the wrong offense".
Sure there were question marks, but there's a reason Brock Lobster was a coveted FA QB as well. Given he's young and he's shown flashes of being good might entice say SF or the Jets to think about it.
I think it was boo that said it here...
Tall, big arm, did not stink it up in Denver, but with that D that was his job... "don't F it up."
And least we forget when it came time for the playoff run he was benched in favor of a very limited P. Manning... and that was after 3 years of prep.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
To be fair, the Texans had the best D in the league last year, and he still found a way to go 8-6.
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You know, the only reason I may see it is because someone, somewhere (and hell it may be the Browns) will get that mindset of "Houston was the wrong offense".
Sure there were question marks, but there's a reason Brock Lobster was a coveted FA QB as well. Given he's young and he's shown flashes of being good might entice say SF or the Jets to think about it.
I think it was boo that said it here...
Tall, big arm, did not stink it up in Denver, but with that D that was his job... "don't F it up."
And least we forget when it came time for the playoff run he was benched in favor of a very limited P. Manning... and that was after 3 years of prep.
I think it was boo that said it here...
Tall, big arm, did not stink it up in Denver, but with that D that was his job... "don't F it up."
And least we forget when it came time for the playoff run he was benched in favor of a very limited P. Manning... and that was after 3 years of prep.
Shhhh.....you'll alert the others
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I think it was boo that said it here...
Tall, big arm, did not stink it up in Denver, but with that D that was his job... "don't F it up."
And least we forget when it came time for the playoff run he was benched in favor of a very limited P. Manning... and that was after 3 years of prep.
Shhhh.....you'll alert the others
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Forget the actual trade and your opinion of what they did. But once the trade was made, the Browns devalued their asset (QB) by mentioning his name as an afterthought and immediately talking about trading or cutting him. Dumb move. Stupid. Even if that's their intention, don't let the world see your cards! What they should have done is embrace him, promote his skills, talk about how it doesn't prevent you from signing, trading or drafting a QB, but BO is a huge upgrade (over RG3) and in the hands of HJ, he could vastly improve his performance over last year. That's what the Patriots are doing with Garopolo. That's how they leverage their asssets in possible trade negotiations. In the NFL, no team wants to buy something that another team is talking about cutting.
I'm still wondering if this F.O. know what their doing. At this point, with the BO trade, the loss of TP and Mitch Swartz and Gabriel last year, I'm very disappointed.
Forget the actual trade and your opinion of what they did. But once the trade was made, the Browns devalued their asset (QB) by mentioning his name as an afterthought and immediately talking about trading or cutting him. Dumb move. Stupid. Even if that's their intention, don't let the world see your cards! What they should have done is embrace him, promote his skills, talk about how it doesn't prevent you from signing, trading or drafting a QB, but BO is a huge upgrade (over RG3) and in the hands of HJ, he could vastly improve his performance over last year. That's what the Patriots are doing with Garopolo. That's how they leverage their asssets in possible trade negotiations. In the NFL, no team wants to buy something that another team is talking about cutting.
I'm still wondering if this F.O. know what their doing. At this point, with the BO trade, the loss of TP and Mitch Swartz and Gabriel last year, I'm very disappointed.
yep, brock stinkweiler, another humdinger in a long list of past humdingers..
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Not trying to disprove of your option but I have a question.
If the Browns would've signed Oz last year would you've been opposed to it?
Hmmm, looking back with as unbiased eyes as possible, yea I would've been fine with him over RG3 all day..... To be fair, I'm still not convinced he can't play and am 100% OK with keeping him and letting him fight it out in TC/early pre-season.
Elway also thought he was the guy last year, so there has to be something? The Texans are rivaling the Browns in terms of being a QB killer.
Me too.Hmmm, looking back with as unbiased eyes as possible, yea I would've been fine with him over RG3 all day..... To be fair, I'm still not convinced he can't play and am 100% OK with keeping him and letting him fight it out in TC/early pre-season.
Elway also thought he was the guy last year, so there has to be something? The Texans are rivaling the Browns in terms of being a QB killer.
OZ needs to light it up. As far as the Texans goes there's never been a qb there either...great take and now I see where you're coming from.
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Hmmmmmm, taking him in after all? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/22/cleveland-browns-settling-brock-osweiler-quarterback-2017/
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Hmmmmmm, taking him in after all? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/22/cleveland-browns-settling-brock-osweiler-quarterback-2017/
Hmmmmmm, taking him in after all? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/22/cleveland-browns-settling-brock-osweiler-quarterback-2017/
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he starts game 1 for the Browns and tears the league up!
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Hmmmmmm, taking him in after all? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2017/03/22/cleveland-browns-settling-brock-osweiler-quarterback-2017/
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he starts game 1 for the Browns and tears the league up!
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What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?
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What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?
What's the probability that the Browns don't select a QB in the draft if they don't trade for Garoppolo or anything else? Is it really 0%. I know Sashi said he'd be satisfied going into the season with his current roster of QB's but nobody took that seriously - right? What happens if Fournette is there at 12? Peppers at the top of Round 2? Etc. Etc. Could we have such a good draft that we just couldn't Waste a top 3 round pick on a QB? Is wait until next year completely unacceptable?
A. IMO, the Garropolo trade ain't happening unless the Pats want a reasonable price for him...i.e. a mid 2d rounder.
B. The Browns will draft a QB...though where...who knows.
C. Fuck a bunch of Fatty Fournette. RB is not a Browns priority such that they need to use a high pick on that spot.
D. Peppers at top of round 2 could make some sense. Browns need DB and a punt returner.
E. If Trubisky is picked...I do not think it will be a waste at all.
F. But, if they don't, they may still take a QB late (or get one as a UDFA)...and rely on Kessler or BO...and maybe wait for next year.
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If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.
I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.
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If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.
I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.
If Peppers is not there top of round 2, maybe USC's Adoree Jackson will be. He is a triple threat CB, PR and KO R. with very good hands/speed.
I think Peppers is long gone by round 2 and possibly Jackson as well.
Love Jackson....he's on my hit list for sure......Id take him if he's there in the 2nd......
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So Hue today said that BO will in fact compete for the starting job.
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