Davis Webb
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That video made me cringe. Who is he trying to convince with all that autofelatio?
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well, his ideal qb he emulates IS Tom Brady....
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Davis Webb in the 3rd
Let him and Kess battle it out
16-0 BABY!!! WOOOT! SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!
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Much prefer Peterman.
Much prefer Peterman.
Most pro ready in the draft but his arm is weaker than Kessler's
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Much prefer Peterman.
Most pro ready in the draft but his arm is weaker than Kessler's
Most pro ready in the draft but his arm is weaker than Kessler's
You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him.
I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up.
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Much prefer Peterman.
Much prefer Peterman.
You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him.
I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up.
There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
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Much prefer Peterman.
You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him.
I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up.
There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
Actually i saw some scouts saying they could see his arm limitations i'll post a link here in a second
Deshaun Watson: Arm-strength concerns have followed Watson for the last two seasons on film and aren't going away after he was clocked at 49 miles per hour on the radar gun in Indianapolis. The pro day workout showed some of these same issues, according to a scout who was there. "He just doesn't have a big arm. That's not who he is. Closer to Alex Smith than Marcus Mariota."
Matt Miller ~ Bleacher Report
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Much prefer Peterman.
You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him.
I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up.
There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
Well if there is a cut-off, there's a cut-off and I'll concede the point. There was some debate in that very thread however as to the validity of those measurements.
There's also another thing I read where he completed something like 45% of his long passes... That doesn't speak to arm strength, but it does suggest an ability to get long throws to where his receivers can get to them.
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There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues.
Well if there is a cut-off, there's a cut-off and I'll concede the point. There was some debate in that very thread however as to the validity of those measurements.
There's also another thing I read where he completed something like 45% of his long passes... That doesn't speak to arm strength, but it does suggest an ability to get long throws to where his receivers can get to them.
Well if there is a cut-off, there's a cut-off and I'll concede the point. There was some debate in that very thread however as to the validity of those measurements.
There's also another thing I read where he completed something like 45% of his long passes... That doesn't speak to arm strength, but it does suggest an ability to get long throws to where his receivers can get to them.
I agree with this perspective all the way.......this whole MPH thing is "suddenly" a vital stat, when it never mattered before???
I think it's BS......either you can make the throws or you cant.......timing, anticipation, ability to read D's all take the lead in important traits for successful QB's.....not mph
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Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
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Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow......
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Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow......
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Or his brain turns to goose shit under pressure.
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Anything else at 12 means depth for the team and they plan to build around the loch ness Kessler and not draft a qb til rounds 3-4 which
Means Mahomes or Webb
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Trubisky or Watson at 12
Trubisky or Watson at 12
Agreed, although I'd add Peterman as a potential second round guy. I don't think he has the upside of the top end, but I do think he'd beat out Kessler for the starting job and could be our Kirk Cousins if developed properly.
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Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow......
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Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver..
We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow......
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