Trubisky
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Not true Woody. Gip and me both see franchise material in Mitch. That he's from Ohio is a bonus, but it's really not coloring my judgement. Detested the Brady Quinn pick, and I have zero interest in Toledo guy Deshone Kizer.
Right now my biggest Maalox Moment is thinking about the Browns possibly trading the ranch for Jimmy Garropolo. I almost barfed when they drafted Manziel, and Jimmy just might push my stomach over the edge.
BTW, if we go all D in the first round, it won't upset me much.
Toledo is barely Ohio.
My statement on Gip comes from more than just his thoughts on Trubisky. I'm talking about conversations from the college thread
Toledo is barely Ohio.
Michigan should just annex Toledo tbh
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Toledo is barely Ohio.
Michigan should just annex Toledo tbh
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If we're trading back into the top 10, I'd rather get one of the elite DBs like Hooker
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If we're trading back into the top 10, I'd rather get one of the elite DBs like Hooker
Happy Birthday!!State of Michigan wants their License Plate back(but your coming around
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Toledo is barely Ohio.
Michigan should just annex Toledo tbh
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Shit, I say we trade out of 12 for the 22nd pick plus a few more high picks, and then just take our franchise QB there........ what could go wrong?
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NFL Network Total Access @7pm EDT today will analyze Mitchell's play.
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i want to see what Greg says on the other QB's in this draft
Here he is on Kizeri want to see what Greg says on the other QB's in this draft
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Here he is on Kizeri want to see what Greg says on the other QB's in this draft
Here he is on Kizer
Why I'm not on the Kizer train. At that level you're either accurate, or you're not. Tour noted a slow wind-up too. Holding ball like a loaf of bread? Slow processing? No thanks, not even in the third.
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The Cosell Kizer scouting report sounds remarkably like Jason Campbell's.
Personally, I don't believe Kizer has slow eyes or trouble reading the field. I think he was neutered by Brian Kelly. He's a bit of a gunslinger who was hemmed in and put on a short leash. That ain't gonna work.
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Gipper only sees in various shades of Ohio
You are proving to be as ignorant as your maize and blue asshole.
Do you not listen to a fucking goddamned word I have been saying?
I am all about the talent evaluation. Ohio has nothing to do with it. If I was all about Ohio I would have been on Cardale Jones' bandwagon, or Braxton Miller...or any number of other Ohio QBs?
Is it just your poor education, or are you being consciously ignorant, like #45?
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Is there a single person that would be upset with Garrett 1 and Trubisky at 12?
If it will shut Gip up, I'd be elated.
:lol:If it will shut Gip up, I'd be elated.
:lol:Just because I am not Gay for Gayrett doesn't mean anything. There are a number of other quality potential #1 picks.
What Garrett plays is NOT one of the Browns major priorities. It could be said that picking him would be redundant to the Browns needs. Now, maybe he is considered the best talent....and if the Browns want to take the best talent regardless of need, so be it.
But just because I don't want to suck his dick like you do does not mean you are right.
I WILL take him....but don't ask me to have an orgasm over him like some of y'all.
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Not true Woody. Gip and me both see franchise material in Mitch. That he's from Ohio is a bonus, but it's really not coloring my judgement. Detested the Brady Quinn pick, and I have zero interest in Toledo guy Deshone Kizer.
Right now my biggest Maalox Moment is thinking about the Browns possibly trading the ranch for Jimmy Garropolo. I almost barfed when they drafted Manziel, and Jimmy just might push my stomach over the edge.
BTW, if we go all D in the first round, it won't upset me much.
Toledo is barely Ohio.
My statement on Gip comes from more than just his thoughts on Trubisky. I'm talking about conversations from the college thread
Toledo is barely Ohio.
My statement on Gip comes from more than just his thoughts on Trubisky. I'm talking about conversations from the college thread
Your statements are based on the fact that you are a Michigan fag. Anyone and everyone else on here hammers you over that fact. I am just the most effective at doing it, ergo your statement.
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Camp Trubisky hasn't always been easy to talk with about the legit concerns people have for him in early round 1 so you can imagine
That "legitimate concern" has always been about just 1 thing: experience. I never said it was not a legit concern.....but of all the concerns one can have over the choice of a QB "experience" is the least concerning concern.
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The Cosell Kizer scouting report sounds remarkably like Jason Campbell's.
Personally, I don't believe Kizer has slow eyes or trouble reading the field. I think he was neutered by Brian Kelly. He's a bit of a gunslinger who was hemmed in and put on a short leash. That ain't gonna work.
Personally, I don't believe Kizer has slow eyes or trouble reading the field. I think he was neutered by Brian Kelly. He's a bit of a gunslinger who was hemmed in and put on a short leash. That ain't gonna work.
It got Favre his only ring...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Here's my answer to that....cause, in a way, I would.....please understand the premise....
If he's "the one" and you think he's your next franchise QB.....then you take him first......if he's not "the one" and just a project/hope/the best we got kinda guy, then lets not burn a first.....on a project....we have too many needs. If we were just a QB away, then Id say do it.....but we're much further....
and we've done it thrice recently...
picked Thomas....then burned a first for Quinn....( a guy we chose a tackle over))
picked Richardson, ....then burned a first for Weeden...(a guy we chose a RB over)
picked Gilbert......then burned a first for JFF....(a uy we chose a CB over)
So...this year....lets not repeat history and burn our second first on a QB we dont have enough faith in to burn the first one on...
Id refer they love him enough to go all in......or pick a blue chip player and get your QB hope in a later round...
Ok. What if they had to trade up to 9 to get him? And the draft unfolded in such a way that they knew they didn't have to take him #1?
Ok. What if they had to trade up to 9 to get him? And the draft unfolded in such a way that they knew they didn't have to take him #1?
Biggest concern are the 49ers and Jets. Both need QBs. There are NOT going to be 2 QBs taken ahead of Trubisky in this draft. So, if MT is the guy...but you don't want to pass on Garrett....then you have to cross your fingers and hope the 49ers go all in for Kirk Cousins at some point, or that they pass on MT. Then you can start wheeling and dealing with teams that are ahead of the Jets in order to jump them.
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Toledo is barely Ohio.
Michigan should just annex Toledo tbh
Michigan should just annex Toledo tbh
They tried. A war was fought over the issue...didn't you know?
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Camp Trubisky hasn't always been easy to talk with about the legit concerns people have for him in early round 1 so you can imagine
That "legitimate concern" has always been about just 1 thing: experience. I never said it was not a legit concern.....but of all the concerns one can have over the choice of a QB "experience" is the least concerning concern.
Camp Trubisky hasn't always been easy to talk with about the legit concerns people have for him in early round 1 so you can imagine
That "legitimate concern" has always been about just 1 thing: experience.
I have read numerous reports on him now suggesting his mechanics are flawed so it's not the only thing at all
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Camp Trubisky hasn't always been easy to talk with about the legit concerns people have for him in early round 1 so you can imagine
That "legitimate concern" has always been about just 1 thing: experience.
I have read numerous reports on him now suggesting his mechanics are flawed so it's not the only thing at all
I have read numerous reports on him now suggesting his mechanics are flawed so it's not the only thing at all
Some times people who make these reports feel they have to come up with something in terms of strengths and weaknesses.
See this for the guy that some here are practicing onanism over:
WEAKNESSESRelies heavily on tremendous athleticism and explosion. Still learning how to string moves together and work with a pass-rush plan. At times, will take too long to activate counter moves when initial attack has stalled. Effort level appears closely tied to fatigue level at times. As pass rusher, uses hands reactively too often rather than proactively. Gets too cozy with blockers and will ride block for too long. Needs more urgency in disengagement. Would benefit with violent stick-and-move punch quickness into blockers. Has to work overtime to set a strong edge. Gets uprooted and widened out by quality run-blocking tackles. Never played in more than 70 percent of the defensive snaps in any of his three seasons. Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season.
Now, who do you think this is about?
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I have read numerous reports on him now suggesting his mechanics are flawed so it's not the only thing at all
Some times people who make these reports feel they have to come up with something in terms of strengths and weaknesses.
See this for the guy that some here are practicing onanism over:
WEAKNESSESRelies heavily on tremendous athleticism and explosion. Still learning how to string moves together and work with a pass-rush plan. At times, will take too long to activate counter moves when initial attack has stalled. Effort level appears closely tied to fatigue level at times. As pass rusher, uses hands reactively too often rather than proactively. Gets too cozy with blockers and will ride block for too long. Needs more urgency in disengagement. Would benefit with violent stick-and-move punch quickness into blockers. Has to work overtime to set a strong edge. Gets uprooted and widened out by quality run-blocking tackles. Never played in more than 70 percent of the defensive snaps in any of his three seasons. Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season.
Now, who do you think this is about?
Some times people who make these reports feel they have to come up with something in terms of strengths and weaknesses.
See this for the guy that some here are practicing onanism over:
WEAKNESSESRelies heavily on tremendous athleticism and explosion. Still learning how to string moves together and work with a pass-rush plan. At times, will take too long to activate counter moves when initial attack has stalled. Effort level appears closely tied to fatigue level at times. As pass rusher, uses hands reactively too often rather than proactively. Gets too cozy with blockers and will ride block for too long. Needs more urgency in disengagement. Would benefit with violent stick-and-move punch quickness into blockers. Has to work overtime to set a strong edge. Gets uprooted and widened out by quality run-blocking tackles. Never played in more than 70 percent of the defensive snaps in any of his three seasons. Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season.
Now, who do you think this is about?
Myles Garrett...
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