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  • beare B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/browns-gm-and-coach-not-attending-mitchell-trubiskys-pro-day-didnt-attend-deshaun-watsons-either-144504118.html

    why pro days are pretty scripted i would think they would still want be there seems bit weird

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      We can have a private workout with these dudes any time we want. We have #1, #12 and boatloads of picks and cash ... No one is saying No to us.

      Zombo

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        L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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        Pro days are set up to make the player look good. Scouts will be there but the top brass will work them out privately.

        Non story

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          SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
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          Browns have folks there.

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            U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
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            What is the point of this thread?

            Pro day is not informative - by definition. If Sashi went there it would be a signal that he didn't know how to effectively manage his time. The only factoid this story shows is that Sashi can in fact accurately identify the places he needs to be.

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              cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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              @ghoolie said:

              They have also chose not to participate in drafting good players or winning games.

              Haha.

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                OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                That was Ray Farmer's tactic.

                Should they want to do ANYTHING like Ray Farmer?

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                  That was Ray Farmer's tactic.

                  Should they want to do ANYTHING like Ray Farmer?

                  wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                  W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                  @orion said:

                  That was Ray Farmer's tactic.

                  Should they want to do ANYTHING like Ray Farmer?

                  Is this a serious question?

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                    SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
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                    Ray Farmer: the definition of "in over your head."

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                      MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                      This isnt an issue, unless we draft said player and then said player tanks......THEN, it will be a HUGE deal and will become the solitary reason we screwed up the pick.....

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                        Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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                        I think the FO got kudos last year when they not only went to the top QBs pro days, but let their presence be known, butting in with water bottles. It was said here that it was a refreshing change from the Farmer days when pro days were just ignored.

                        Now it's no big deal again?

                        Personally I put next to zero stock in these events, but there's something about how skipping them comes across to your fan base. I don't think you can afford to appear apathetic after such a disaster of a season.

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                        • beare B One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                          B beare wrote on last edited by
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                          Maybe it is a issue farmer did the same how did that work out!!!!

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                            I think the FO got kudos last year when they not only went to the top QBs pro days, but let their presence be known, butting in with water bottles. It was said here that it was a refreshing change from the Farmer days when pro days were just ignored.

                            Now it's no big deal again?

                            Personally I put next to zero stock in these events, but there's something about how skipping them comes across to your fan base. I don't think you can afford to appear apathetic after such a disaster of a season.

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                            @mr.-make-believe said:

                            I think the FO got kudos last year when they not only went to the top QBs pro days, but let their presence be known, butting in with water bottles. It was said here that it was a refreshing change from the Farmer days when pro days were just ignored.

                            Now it's no big deal again?

                            Personally I put next to zero stock in these events, but there's something about how skipping them comes across to your fan base. I don't think you can afford to appear apathetic after such a disaster of a season.

                            I think the issue is we were actually looking at those QBs last year. This year we've already moved on. Who knows.

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                              Maybe it is a issue farmer did the same how did that work out!!!!

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                              @beare said:

                              Maybe it is a issue farmer did the same how did that work out!!!!

                              Farmer also made draft picks. Maybe we should try not making draft picks.

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                                OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
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                                Color me stupid....but, we 'should' be in the market for a QB of the future. So why aren't we going to their pro days? Are our guys too busy? Is there something pressing they had to do? - Oh, they're scripted. So the player doesn't actually have to THROW the ball. It's osmosisly flying off their hand and to the receiver.

                                There's NOTHING to learn there? Is that what I'm supposed to believe?

                                I mean, not even comparing the way they act there as opposed to the way they act at your own work out?

                                Nothing to learn. Not worth watching at all.

                                I don't buy it. I think skipping the QB's pro days is dumb.

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                                  @mr.-make-believe said:

                                  I think the FO got kudos last year when they not only went to the top QBs pro days, but let their presence be known, butting in with water bottles. It was said here that it was a refreshing change from the Farmer days when pro days were just ignored.

                                  Now it's no big deal again?

                                  Personally I put next to zero stock in these events, but there's something about how skipping them comes across to your fan base. I don't think you can afford to appear apathetic after such a disaster of a season.

                                  I think the issue is we were actually looking at those QBs last year. This year we've already moved on. Who knows.

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                                  Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  I think the issue is we were actually looking at those QBs last year. This year we've already moved on. Who knows.

                                  But should we have moved on?

                                  The old saying: If you don't have your quarterback in the NFL, you're looking for him.

                                  Last I checked, we don't have anything close to resembling "our quarterback". We SHOULD be looking for one.

                                  Again, pro days are shite. Scripted BS. But I fail to see how we can laud them one year for participating and then make excuses for them the next when they display an apparent apathy.

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                                    @wargograw said:

                                    I think the issue is we were actually looking at those QBs last year. This year we've already moved on. Who knows.

                                    But should we have moved on?

                                    The old saying: If you don't have your quarterback in the NFL, you're looking for him.

                                    Last I checked, we don't have anything close to resembling "our quarterback". We SHOULD be looking for one.

                                    Again, pro days are shite. Scripted BS. But I fail to see how we can laud them one year for participating and then make excuses for them the next when they display an apparent apathy.

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                                    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                    @mr.-make-believe said:

                                    But should we have moved on?

                                    The old saying: If you don't have your quarterback in the NFL, you're looking for him.

                                    Last I checked, we don't have anything close to resembling "our quarterback". We SHOULD be looking for one.

                                    Again, pro days are shite. Scripted BS. But I fail to see how we can laud them one year for participating and then make excuses for them the next when they display an apparent apathy.

                                    By this logic you ought to have kept McCown, given Whitehurst a longer tryout, etc. Because apparently it's impossible to ever have a determination on a guy.

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                                      @mr.-make-believe said:

                                      But should we have moved on?

                                      The old saying: If you don't have your quarterback in the NFL, you're looking for him.

                                      Last I checked, we don't have anything close to resembling "our quarterback". We SHOULD be looking for one.

                                      Again, pro days are shite. Scripted BS. But I fail to see how we can laud them one year for participating and then make excuses for them the next when they display an apparent apathy.

                                      By this logic you ought to have kept McCown, given Whitehurst a longer tryout, etc. Because apparently it's impossible to ever have a determination on a guy.

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                                      Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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                                      @wargograw said:

                                      By this logic you ought to have kept McCown, given Whitehurst a longer tryout, etc. Because apparently it's impossible to ever have a determination on a guy.

                                      Where did I say it was impossible to ever have a determination on a guy? That's not even close to what I said.

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                                        Color me stupid....but, we 'should' be in the market for a QB of the future. So why aren't we going to their pro days? Are our guys too busy? Is there something pressing they had to do? - Oh, they're scripted. So the player doesn't actually have to THROW the ball. It's osmosisly flying off their hand and to the receiver.

                                        There's NOTHING to learn there? Is that what I'm supposed to believe?

                                        I mean, not even comparing the way they act there as opposed to the way they act at your own work out?

                                        Nothing to learn. Not worth watching at all.

                                        I don't buy it. I think skipping the QB's pro days is dumb.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @orion said:

                                        Color me stupid....but, we 'should' be in the market for a QB of the future. So why aren't we going to their pro days? Are our guys too busy? Is there something pressing they had to do? - Oh, they're scripted. So the player doesn't actually have to THROW the ball. It's osmosisly flying off their hand and to the receiver.

                                        There's NOTHING to learn there? Is that what I'm supposed to believe?

                                        I mean, not even comparing the way they act there as opposed to the way they act at your own work out?

                                        Nothing to learn. Not worth watching at all.

                                        I don't buy it. I think skipping the QB's pro days is dumb.

                                        Well, again, I think the Browns WERE there, just not Sachi...who is not a talent evaluator, nor Hue....who may be the one that wants to put more emphasis on the film, the interviews, the combine, the one on one. That just seems to be the kind of guy he is.....one that does not really want to deal with the meat market. Maybe Andrew Berry or some other top scout was in attendance.

                                        Has anyone heard about that?

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                                          We can have a private workout with these dudes any time we want. We have #1, #12 and boatloads of picks and cash ... No one is saying No to us.

                                          Zombo

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                          Zombo said:

                                          We can have a private workout with these dudes any time we want. We have #1, #12 and boatloads of picks and cash ... No one is saying No to us.

                                          Thirty max and you can't "work them out"... mental work and testing, physicals are all that's permitted.

                                          That said, I agree with Unsym... generally a waste of Hue's time and definitely Sashi's. Travel to some campuses can require up to two nites' stay. Let the scouts do their jobs... confirming or refuting current impressions, which are theirs to begin with.

                                          Private invites should be reserved for those prospects you are either on the fence about or whose heads you really need to get into... QBs... anyone you are contemplating spending a Day 1 or 2 pick upon.

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