Browns skipping another pro day
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Browns value private workouts over pro days
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I think Garoppolo is coming to Cleveland within the next 7-10 days.
Hopefully not for the #1 pick, a twitter rumour that appeared from someone that gets info on the Browns from time to time.
Hopefully not for the #1 pick, a twitter rumour that appeared from someone that gets info on the Browns from time to time.
I know...that scares the death out of me. Problem is, if we ACTUALLY found our "franchise QB", the price is worth anything. Literally anything. Imagine this: Say the price of Garoppolo truly is the freaking #1 pick, but the Browns say, "Get lost." The Patriots don't trade JG, and he backs up Brady all season. Suppose Garoppolo hits the free agent market in 2018, signs with a team, and plays well. Not "balls out awesome" or anything, but plays well enough to warrant being a starter without doubt. It would be DISASTROUS for the Browns. We let another QB slip through our fingers. Can you IMAGINE the backlash? Sure, we'd draft a QB in 2017, but we all know that rookies aren't sure things, and this rookie class is weaker than most. If we don't pay the price for JG, he turns out to be good, and our draft pick doesn't....we're firing Hue Jackson, our front office, and we're once again back at square zero. I know it seems apocalyptic, but am I wrong?
Listen, I'm NOT saying I want to trade the FREAKING #1 PICK for a backup QB. Lord knows I don't want to. But Jesus...we need to figure this position out. And I don't see a rookie or Cody Kessler being the answer right now.
Ok, now back to REALITY. The Patriots don't have a first or second round pick. We know this. They might be shrewd business people in New England, but they aren't going to demand the #1 overall pick. That's ridiculous. The Browns have a litany of early draft picks, and we can put together a deal that will benefit BOTH teams. I honestly don't think the #1 pick even factors into it.
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Jesus this is ridiculous. They're going to work him out privately there's wasn't a single HC at MT's pro day that tells you all you need to know about the stock they put in it.
Browns had two people there according to local media on twitter.
Jesus this is ridiculous. They're going to work him out privately there's wasn't a single HC at MT's pro day that tells you all you need to know about the stock they put in it.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
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Jesus this is ridiculous. They're going to work him out privately there's wasn't a single HC at MT's pro day that tells you all you need to know about the stock they put in it.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
What do you mean can't?
Says here they do on field work
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Are the skill sets of "guru (teacher)" the same as those of an evaluator?
I would think that good teachers would probably be pretty good evaluators, yes.
I would like to ask just why Hue was touted as being so great with QB's?
Is it because he had QB's on the team when he was the HC of the Raiders?
Because he had QB's on the team when he was the OC of the Bengals?
As I recall, his Dalton finished a game against us with a QB rating of two. (2)
He brought in RG3 and was quite excited about having him.
He told us to Trust Him on the Kessler pick...and then pulls him at halftime in a game that the kid was doing pretty well....and he never really gave him back the job. And right up until they traded for The Ostrich Hue was saying how he knew that he had to find us a QB (as if he didn't trust his Kessler pick AT ALL).
OK....I'm just ranting here...it's late...I just got back from band rehearsal....
Again...I just think that if you're uncertain about your team's QB position...and you've got the #1 and #12 picks in the draft (not to mention our two 2nd round picks)....then you should be scoping out each of the top QB's....using every tool they give you.
Fuck it. Just let the homeless guy make the pick.
I would think that good teachers would probably be pretty good evaluators, yes.
I would like to ask just why Hue was touted as being so great with QB's?
Is it because he had QB's on the team when he was the HC of the Raiders?
Because he had QB's on the team when he was the OC of the Bengals?
As I recall, his Dalton finished a game against us with a QB rating of two. (2)
He brought in RG3 and was quite excited about having him.
He told us to Trust Him on the Kessler pick...and then pulls him at halftime in a game that the kid was doing pretty well....and he never really gave him back the job. And right up until they traded for The Ostrich Hue was saying how he knew that he had to find us a QB (as if he didn't trust his Kessler pick AT ALL).
OK....I'm just ranting here...it's late...I just got back from band rehearsal....
Again...I just think that if you're uncertain about your team's QB position...and you've got the #1 and #12 picks in the draft (not to mention our two 2nd round picks)....then you should be scoping out each of the top QB's....using every tool they give you.
Fuck it. Just let the homeless guy make the pick.
I think that Hue's status as a "QB Guru" is certainly up for debate.
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Jesus this is ridiculous. They're going to work him out privately there's wasn't a single HC at MT's pro day that tells you all you need to know about the stock they put in it.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
I asked this question elsewhere. There is all this talk about a private workout...yet you say that they can't do a workout.
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After the board work, everyone goes to the practice field. Here, the coach will want to find out if the player is capable of doing things that are required by the team's scheme—much more specific than at a pro day. He will work on things that his team does on a daily basis. The coach also wants to see how the player responds to his coaching and get a feel for his work habits.
The Cleveland Browns have a strong need for a quarterback. Despite this, it has been reported on most sports websites and newspapers that they did not attend one pro day of the top quarterback prospects. Instead, they have scheduled private workouts with all the quarterbacks in whom they have an interest.
(by the way...this article was written several years ago, the year Blake Bortles was drafted.....so not much has changed even through regime change)
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Jesus this is ridiculous. They're going to work him out privately there's wasn't a single HC at MT's pro day that tells you all you need to know about the stock they put in it.
Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburgAgain... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
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There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburgAgain... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburg
Why the hell would that have a bearing on anything?
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Again... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
What do you mean can't?
Says here they do on field work
What do you mean can't?
Says here they do on field work
April, 2014 article? I have a more recent reference... suggests a rule change.
I know at one the NFLPA was concerned that prospects getting 8, 10, 12 visits were working out on-field too much and risking injury.
Pre-draft visits important in evaluating prospects
April 12, 2015
The NFL has strict rules for these visits. Each team can bring no more than 30 players to its facility, and no on-field testing or timing is allowed, only blackboard work or written tests.
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It's so damn obvious, the decision has already been made. It'Trubisky at #1 then a LB at 12. We don't need another damn DL we have plenty.
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It's so damn obvious, the decision has already been made. It'Trubisky at #1 then a LB at 12. We don't need another damn DL we have plenty.
It's so damn obvious, the decision has already been made. It'Trubisky at #1 then a LB at 12. We don't need another damn DL we have plenty.
Yeah they played so well and led the league in non-sacks.
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Where did I say it was impossible to ever have a determination on a guy? That's not even close to what I said.
Yes it is. I said maybe they didn't go because they KNOW they don't want him. You basically said they should go anyway.
Yet they've invited these players to private workouts.Yes it is. I said maybe they didn't go because they KNOW they don't want him. You basically said they should go anyway.
And I wasn't writing in reference to your post specifically. Henceforth, NOT what I was saying.
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There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburgAgain... you cannot "workout" draft prospects during their visits. This is not a UFA coming in to make the earth move...
What you can do is lift the lid and see what's going on under there, if anything. That is where the significant questions are about any of the QB prospects in this, or any other, draft class.
There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburg
From NC local news--The only thing Mama's Mitchell has stated about the browns is that "He would honor any invitation to a Browns private workout due to his past hometown background & his fandom of the Browns" I watched his lips move the whole time..(that's one square head)
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Yet they've invited these players to private workouts.Yes it is. I said maybe they didn't go because they KNOW they don't want him. You basically said they should go anyway.
And I wasn't writing in reference to your post specifically. Henceforth, NOT what I was saying.
Yet they've invited these players to private workouts.
And I wasn't writing in reference to your post specifically. Henceforth, NOT what I was saying.
Even though you quoted me?
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There's some kind of caveat that Mitch can workout in Berea because he's a prospect that's considered local to cleveburg
From NC local news--The only thing Mama's Mitchell has stated about the browns is that "He would honor any invitation to a Browns private workout due to his past hometown background & his fandom of the Browns" I watched his lips move the whole time..(that's one square head)
From NC local news--The only thing Mama's Mitchell has stated about the browns is that "He would honor any invitation to a Browns private workout due to his past hometown background & his fandom of the Browns" I watched his lips move the whole time..(that's one square head)
He does sort of look like one of the Rockem Sockem Robot guys.
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Maybe a little Steve Canyon (though perhaps with the blonde hair, Josh McCown was a better match here):
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Yet they've invited these players to private workouts.
And I wasn't writing in reference to your post specifically. Henceforth, NOT what I was saying.
Even though you quoted me?
After you quoted me, yes.Even though you quoted me?
Take a look back through this conversation. I never quoted a post where you said that they had already determined all of these QBs weren't worthy of selection.
And you still didn't address why if they had made that determination already, that they would bother bringing them in for private meetings.
Which again doesn't have anything to do with my original point... Which was about the optics and how quickly some seem to excuse this FO for doing the opposite of what was praise-worthy just 12 months ago.
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