The 30 Greatest Football Places In America
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I guess I must have done good job with this. Not one person has quarrelled with my selections.
How about this...if I narrow it down to the Top Ten in order, then I, personally, would make these selections:
1. Stark County, Ohio
2. Green Bay, Wisc.
3. South Bend, Ind.
4. Cleveland, Ohio
5. Columbus, Ohio
6. Pittsburgh Pa.
7. Oakland/East Bay
8. Tuscaloosa
9. Miami
10. Odessa
Convince me otherwise.
I guess I must have done good job with this. Not one person has quarrelled with my selections.
How about this...if I narrow it down to the Top Ten in order, then I, personally, would make these selections:
1. Stark County, Ohio
2. Green Bay, Wisc.
3. South Bend, Ind.
4. Cleveland, Ohio
5. Columbus, Ohio
6. Pittsburgh Pa.
7. Oakland/East Bay
8. Tuscaloosa
9. Miami
10. Odessa
Convince me otherwise.
Columbus higher than Pitt?
Only one player from Columbus in the HOF?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/VAmBYNu0NkWDkoYmBIDzwA/states-with-most-nfl-hall-of-famers.htm
Professional football was born in Western Pa!
BTW you missed George Blanda in your list of QB's from Western Pa.
What a stellar career he had. An unheard of 26 seasons, retiring at the age of 48, and ironically played his last NFL game in Pittsburgh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda
There are many more QB's from Western Pa. who have achieved lesser status... among them Super Bowl winner Jeff Hostettler, and Babe Pirilli who ironically was the back up QB in Super Bowl III...to another Pennsylvanian, Joe Namath.
Western Pa. the hotbed of NFL head coaches as well....
The Browns beloved Marty Shottenheimer, Mike McCarthy, Mike Ditka, Marvin Lewis, Bill Cowher, Ted Marchibroda, Chuck Knox, Joe Walton, Joe Bugle, Dave Wannstadt, Todd Haley..all from Western Pa. Six head coaches from Western Pa. were coaching in the NFL at the same time.
Funny how it took a Cleveland guy Chuck Noll to turn the Steelers into a winner, while it still remains to this day that a Pittsburgh guy named Marty was the last Browns coach to make that team relevant and a SB contender.
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one of the best places to watch the NFL draft is Canton Mike's mancave....
Absolutely Cal! It's also not a bad place to drink beer, chow and add to the FLABS (acro for Flugel's abs). I'm not a gluten-free kind of guy; but hearing Kessler's name way up in round 3 almost reversed off every calorie I consumed...
It was fun to meet Westside Steve and his lady; some guy named Niedermeyer "WITHOUT THAT DAMN PLEDGE PIN"; Mr and Mrs Canton Mike as well as Mr and Mrs Calfoxsies for the first time.
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Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
Ann Arbor, Michigan. Yes, the town that hosts that school up north makes the list. They do after all average the highest attendance in all of college football
Auburn, Alabama. Home of Auburn Univ. which is a participant in one of the Top 5 college rivalries.
Austin, Texas. Home of the Big Dog in football crazy Texas. UT Longhorns.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Home of LSU Tigers.
Chicago, Illinois. Home of Da Bears. Plus, more PFHOF members were born in Chicago than any other city.
Cleveland, Ohio. The region is home to more pro football titles than any other. Is the only city to "save" its team from an attempt by a greedy owner to move it. (something the likes of Baltimore/St. Louis/Houston etc. were not able to do). Rabid fans despite recent losing problems. Plus it has one of the most storied high school rivalries in the nation. The Holy War: St. Ignatius vs. St. Edwards.
Columbia SC. Home of the Gamecocks of South Carolina U. You have to love that name, plus they are some of the most rabid college football fans in the country.
Columbus, Ohio. Home of the THE Ohio State Buckeyes which several entities have determined to be THE most popular college football team in the nation, with the largest fan base and among the most rabid fans, and some of the greatest traditions in the sport, e.g Script Ohio.
Dallas, Texas. Home, sorta, of The Cowboys, "America's Team". Well, lets just say that the media pays an inordinate amount of attention to them. They do have the cheerleaders, and it is alleged that they do have the largest fan base of all NFL teams.
Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Gainesville, Florida. Home of The Florida Gators, probably Florida's most popular college program. Plus a lot of good high school football in that area.
Green Bay, Wisconsin. Home of the only community owned team in the NFL, the Packers. And the most successful. The Packers franchise has won the most championships in history. Title Town, USA
Kansas City, Missouri. Home of The Chief with one of the most ardent NFL fan bases who, despite a lack of on field success still follow their team.
Knoxville, Tennessee. Home of the Tennessee Volunteers, which lead the SEC in attendance regularly. And singing Rocky Top is a great tradition.
Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania. Home of the longest rivalry in college football, Lehigh/Lafeyette. Plus this working class area which includes the likes of Scranton, Easton, Allentown/Bethlehem produces great high school rivalry and talent.
Lincoln, Nebraska. Home of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Madison/Whitewater, Wisconsin. I combine these two cities into one unit as they are not that far apart. Madison is the home of the Wisconsin Badgers which is highly popular. Whitewater is the home of The University of Wisconsin-Whitewater which is the 3 time defending Division III National Champion.
Miami, Florida. Home of the popular NFL Dolphins and the Miami Hurricanes, who used to be a big deal. Has also been frequent host of The Super Bowl Game. Also, fabulous football talent is produced from the areas high schools, such as Belle Glade and others.
New Orleans, Louisiana. The Saints helped rebuild this city after Katrina and enjoy wide popularity. Also, the most frequent and most popular site of The Super Bowl.
Norman, Oklahoma. Home of the Oklahoma Sooners one of the most successful college programs from a small state who along with Texas form the Red River Rivalry.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
Odessa, Texas. This area had not one, but two National Prime time TV shows somewhat centered around its high school football team. Friday Night Lights and Heroes. (Remember "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"? That cheerleader cheered for Odessa Tx.)
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Home of the popular and succesful Steelers as well as the Pitt Panthers. Area has also produced some legendary QBs like Joe Namath, Dan Marino, John Unitas, Jim Kelley, Joe Montana, as well as the likes of Tony Dorsett. Western PA high school was the site of Tom Cruise's football movie All The Right Moves
South Bend, Indiana. Home of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the most popular and successful college football program in history.
Stark County, Ohio. If I did list these in order, this would probably take #1. It is the birthplace of the National Football League and the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The city of Alliance hosts Mount Union University, which has won more Division III college Championship in history, and has appeared in over twice as many D-III title games as any other school. And it is the home of probably the most fabled high school rivalry in the nation: Massillon vs. Canton McKinley. Paul Brown graduated from and coached at Massillon and their 30,0000 seat stadium is named after him. And Canton McKinley's Fawcett Stadium is the site of the annual Hall of Fame game. What other high school has the NFL play a game in their stadium? Plus, though Glee says it is set in Lima, the school their is based on Canton McKinley.
State College, Pennsylvania. Despite recent trouble, it is home to one of the most popular and successful college football programs in the country, Penn St.
Tulsa, Oklahoma. Home of one of the other great high school rivalries: Jenks vs. Union.
Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Home of the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide, one of the most successful college football programs in history.
Valdosta, Georgia. Home of Valdosta St. which has won several lower division national titles, an Valdosta HS which has won some USA Today national Championships.
For 31st place I have come up with the following candidates but cannot decide:
Athens, Ga.
Blacksburg Va.
Bryant-College Station TX
Clemson, SC
Fayetteville, Ark.
Morgantown, WVa
Sugarland, TX
Tallahassee, Fla.
Tyler, TX
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Great topic Gips! It's almost impossible to get a consensus on this kind of thing. I'm guessing Mississippi (the home/roots of Jerry Rice, Steve McNair, Brett Favre, Marcus Dupree and Archie/Peyton/Eli Manning) has to have 1 location worthy of the list or honorable mention.
Edit: Looks like Ballpeen and Ghoolie already mentioned Mississippi before I got that far into the thread.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
one of the best places to watch the NFL draft is Canton Mike's mancave....
Absolutely Cal! It's also not a bad place to drink beer, chow and add to the FLABS (acro for Flugel's abs). I'm not a gluten-free kind of guy; but hearing Kessler's name way up in round 3 almost reversed off every calorie I consumed...
It was fun to meet Westside Steve and his lady; some guy named Niedermeyer "WITHOUT THAT DAMN PLEDGE PIN"; Mr and Mrs Canton Mike as well as Mr and Mrs Calfoxsies for the first time.
Always fun with plenty to eat, drink, & argue about what will & DID take place. Great friends, Family & lots of laughs!
Tom, it was great meeting you & spending time together.
This year the draft is literally impossible to predict...Flip a coin & get ready for some surprises!
Mike
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"Denver, Colorado. Home of the NFL team with probably the largest geographical following. Plus the fans are very ardent for the Broncos.
Yes, we are despite Z's attempts to shame some of us into giving up a first love. Everybody still has a deep love for their first love, even if married for 47+ years now. LOL!
Christine-you still alive girl?
(I was able to sneak by the name of Kristen for my daughter.)
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I wish soccer mom didn't take over NY and hold football hostage. Buffalo made 4 Superbowls while 2 other storied NFL franchises like the NY Jets and NY Giants have Superbowl Championships in their history. Buffalo has a longer playoff drought than Cleveland while the Jets don't look any closer to post seasons in the near future. The Giants no longer have the old school toughness of Parcells or Coughlin (undefeated against Brady/BB in Superbowls)... At 1 time, people in Western NY were starting to worry if Buffalo would keep the team after Ralph Wilson died. Meanwhile, when is the last time the Jets or Giants played a home game in NY?
And what about the RB tradition at Syracuse, NY that included Jim Brown (raised on Long Island/Manhassett, NY), Ernie Davis (from Elmira, NY), Floyd Little, Larry Csonka, Joe Morris, Rob "Moose" Johnston? Later on other future NFL stars at other positions would go there like Donovan McNabb, Dwight Freeney, Marvin Harrison, Keith Bulluck,Donovan Darius. I think Tim Green also had a brief splash. It's been a long time since that football program was significant.
Even a small school on Long Island like Hofstra was putting productive WRs like Wayne Chrebet and Marques Colston in the NFL before Soccer Mom intervened with a "not on my watch!" Hofstra no longer has a football program. They just play footsies with limp wrists while they chase around a white ball hoping to score once or twice in 3 hours of competition. I'd rather watch hotties with nice legs do something like that...
There's countless guys from Long Island that went on for successful NFL careers like Vinnie Testaverde, Boomer Esiason, Jumbo & Matt Elliott, Jim Brown etc...
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Here is the artist rendition of what the new Pro Football Hall of Fame village is going to look like. . .
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I guess I must have done good job with this. Not one person has quarrelled with my selections.
How about this...if I narrow it down to the Top Ten in order, then I, personally, would make these selections:
1. Stark County, Ohio
2. Green Bay, Wisc.
3. South Bend, Ind.
4. Cleveland, Ohio
5. Columbus, Ohio
6. Pittsburgh Pa.
7. Oakland/East Bay
8. Tuscaloosa
9. Miami
10. Odessa
Convince me otherwise.
Columbus higher than Pitt?
Only one player from Columbus in the HOF?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/VAmBYNu0NkWDkoYmBIDzwA/states-with-most-nfl-hall-of-famers.htm
Professional football was born in Western Pa!
BTW you missed George Blanda in your list of QB's from Western Pa.
What a stellar career he had. An unheard of 26 seasons, retiring at the age of 48, and ironically played his last NFL game in Pittsburgh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda
There are many more QB's from Western Pa. who have achieved lesser status... among them Super Bowl winner Jeff Hostettler, and Babe Pirilli who ironically was the back up QB in Super Bowl III...to another Pennsylvanian, Joe Namath.
Western Pa. the hotbed of NFL head coaches as well....
The Browns beloved Marty Shottenheimer, Mike McCarthy, Mike Ditka, Marvin Lewis, Bill Cowher, Ted Marchibroda, Chuck Knox, Joe Walton, Joe Bugle, Dave Wannstadt, Todd Haley..all from Western Pa. Six head coaches from Western Pa. were coaching in the NFL at the same time.
Funny how it took a Cleveland guy Chuck Noll to turn the Steelers into a winner, while it still remains to this day that a Pittsburgh guy named Marty was the last Browns coach to make that team relevant and a SB contender.
Columbus higher than Pitt?
Only one player from Columbus in the HOF?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/VAmBYNu0NkWDkoYmBIDzwA/states-with-most-nfl-hall-of-famers.htm
Professional football was born in Western Pa!
BTW you missed George Blanda in your list of QB's from Western Pa.
What a stellar career he had. An unheard of 26 seasons, retiring at the age of 48, and ironically played his last NFL game in Pittsburgh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda
There are many more QB's from Western Pa. who have achieved lesser status... among them Super Bowl winner Jeff Hostettler, and Babe Pirilli who ironically was the back up QB in Super Bowl III...to another Pennsylvanian, Joe Namath.
Western Pa. the hotbed of NFL head coaches as well....
The Browns beloved Marty Shottenheimer, Mike McCarthy, Mike Ditka, Marvin Lewis, Bill Cowher, Ted Marchibroda, Chuck Knox, Joe Walton, Joe Bugle, Dave Wannstadt, Todd Haley..all from Western Pa. Six head coaches from Western Pa. were coaching in the NFL at the same time.
Funny how it took a Cleveland guy Chuck Noll to turn the Steelers into a winner, while it still remains to this day that a Pittsburgh guy named Marty was the last Browns coach to make that team relevant and a SB contender.
Its my list, I can do what I want.
Ohio State's success as a college football program is superior to Pittsburgh's success as a pro football program.
(I would not however go around touting Dave Wannstedt)
But, perhaps you are right, perhaps neither is Top Ten.
Hell, maybe I should put Barberton Ohio (not including Akron) alone up there if you are touting football people: Bo Schembechler, John Mackovic, Tom Dmitroff Sr and Jr. (GM of current Falcons). Josh McDaniel...future Pats HC.
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Here is my list of the 30 greatest Football places in America. In alphabetical order. I didn't rank them....but that is something we can debate. Note that this can involve football at any level, pro, college...large and small, and high school.
You decide....or add any I may have missed.
Great topic Gips! It's almost impossible to get a consensus on this kind of thing. I'm guessing Mississippi (the home/roots of Jerry Rice, Steve McNair, Brett Favre, Marcus Dupree and Archie/Peyton/Eli Manning) has to have 1 location worthy of the list or honorable mention.
Edit: Looks like Ballpeen and Ghoolie already mentioned Mississippi before I got that far into the thread.
Great topic Gips! It's almost impossible to get a consensus on this kind of thing. I'm guessing Mississippi (the home/roots of Jerry Rice, Steve McNair, Brett Favre, Marcus Dupree and Archie/Peyton/Eli Manning) has to have 1 location worthy of the list or honorable mention.
Edit: Looks like Ballpeen and Ghoolie already mentioned Mississippi before I got that far into the thread.
Yes, I added Oxford Miss. at their behest. Went from 30 to 31 flavors.
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Columbus higher than Pitt?
Only one player from Columbus in the HOF?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/VAmBYNu0NkWDkoYmBIDzwA/states-with-most-nfl-hall-of-famers.htm
Professional football was born in Western Pa!
BTW you missed George Blanda in your list of QB's from Western Pa.
What a stellar career he had. An unheard of 26 seasons, retiring at the age of 48, and ironically played his last NFL game in Pittsburgh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda
There are many more QB's from Western Pa. who have achieved lesser status... among them Super Bowl winner Jeff Hostettler, and Babe Pirilli who ironically was the back up QB in Super Bowl III...to another Pennsylvanian, Joe Namath.
Western Pa. the hotbed of NFL head coaches as well....
The Browns beloved Marty Shottenheimer, Mike McCarthy, Mike Ditka, Marvin Lewis, Bill Cowher, Ted Marchibroda, Chuck Knox, Joe Walton, Joe Bugle, Dave Wannstadt, Todd Haley..all from Western Pa. Six head coaches from Western Pa. were coaching in the NFL at the same time.
Funny how it took a Cleveland guy Chuck Noll to turn the Steelers into a winner, while it still remains to this day that a Pittsburgh guy named Marty was the last Browns coach to make that team relevant and a SB contender.
Its my list, I can do what I want.
Ohio State's success as a college football program is superior to Pittsburgh's success as a pro football program.
(I would not however go around touting Dave Wannstedt)
But, perhaps you are right, perhaps neither is Top Ten.
Hell, maybe I should put Barberton Ohio (not including Akron) alone up there if you are touting football people: Bo Schembechler, John Mackovic, Tom Dmitroff Sr and Jr. (GM of current Falcons). Josh McDaniel...future Pats HC.
Its my list, I can do what I want.
Ok it's your list, but then don't say this..
Convince me otherwise.
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Columbus higher than Pitt?
Only one player from Columbus in the HOF?
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/VAmBYNu0NkWDkoYmBIDzwA/states-with-most-nfl-hall-of-famers.htm
Professional football was born in Western Pa!
BTW you missed George Blanda in your list of QB's from Western Pa.
What a stellar career he had. An unheard of 26 seasons, retiring at the age of 48, and ironically played his last NFL game in Pittsburgh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda
There are many more QB's from Western Pa. who have achieved lesser status... among them Super Bowl winner Jeff Hostettler, and Babe Pirilli who ironically was the back up QB in Super Bowl III...to another Pennsylvanian, Joe Namath.
Western Pa. the hotbed of NFL head coaches as well....
The Browns beloved Marty Shottenheimer, Mike McCarthy, Mike Ditka, Marvin Lewis, Bill Cowher, Ted Marchibroda, Chuck Knox, Joe Walton, Joe Bugle, Dave Wannstadt, Todd Haley..all from Western Pa. Six head coaches from Western Pa. were coaching in the NFL at the same time.
Funny how it took a Cleveland guy Chuck Noll to turn the Steelers into a winner, while it still remains to this day that a Pittsburgh guy named Marty was the last Browns coach to make that team relevant and a SB contender.
Its my list, I can do what I want.
Ohio State's success as a college football program is superior to Pittsburgh's success as a pro football program.
(I would not however go around touting Dave Wannstedt)
But, perhaps you are right, perhaps neither is Top Ten.
Hell, maybe I should put Barberton Ohio (not including Akron) alone up there if you are touting football people: Bo Schembechler, John Mackovic, Tom Dmitroff Sr and Jr. (GM of current Falcons). Josh McDaniel...future Pats HC.
Ohio State's success as a college football program is superior to Pittsburgh's success as a pro football program.
(I would not however go around touting Dave Wannstedt)
So now we are changing your topic by limiting it to the success of a pro franchise vs a college program?
Your topic says "football places", and you yourself were the one who listed the famous QB's to come out of the Pittsburgh area....none of whom played for the Steelers.
Not "touting" Wannstedt either. He was just another head coach from the football factory known as Pittsburgh Pa. is all that I'm saying.
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FYI..The University of Pittsburgh is also located in the Pittsburg region. A as part of rich football history, the Panthers own 9 national titles to OSU's 8.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Panthers_football
Yes I know, those Pitt championships happened a long time ago, but I'm responding to a guy that gives as much weight to a stupid AAFC Championship as he does to a Super Bowl.LOL
To place Columbus ahead of Pittsburgh amongst the best "football places" is just pure homerism. I think you know that Gip.
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I will give a little credit where credit is due, Pittsburgh, PA did a good job after the major disintegration of the American steel industry essentially caused by below cost foreign steel, antiquated USA facilities, legacy costs, EPA regulations and other factors. (I was a first hand witness, 11 years at USS.)
BUT they really built and rebuilt the city and the two teams in the NFL and NHL also did things right and are solid successful franchises with rabid fans.
MLB, eh the Pirates had a run, PITT is searching for the 1970s successes partly led by that cheater Jackie Sherrill but they have a good one now Pat Narduzzi former YSU player and son of a former YSU coach.
Now do I still down deep hate the Steelerz hell yes but.......
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I guess I must have done good job with this. Not one person has quarrelled with my selections.
How about this...if I narrow it down to the Top Ten in order, then I, personally, would make these selections:
1. Stark County, Ohio
2. Green Bay, Wisc.
3. South Bend, Ind.
4. Cleveland, Ohio
5. Columbus, Ohio
6. Pittsburgh Pa.
7. Oakland/East Bay
8. Tuscaloosa
9. Miami
10. Odessa
Convince me otherwise.
Ok it's your list, but then don't say this..
The Gipper, on 11 Sept 2012 - 3:08 PM, said:
Convince me otherwise.
I have been convinced a couple of times. I included Oxford Miss....and I put Baltimore on in lieu of another spot (have to look above, perhaps KC.
And I do not discount that perhaps you have a valid argument for Pittsburgh in the Top Ten.
So, lets just agree you have valid points.
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Ohio State's success as a college football program is superior to Pittsburgh's success as a pro football program.
(I would not however go around touting Dave Wannstedt)
So now we are changing your topic by limiting it to the success of a pro franchise vs a college program?
Your topic says "football places", and you yourself were the one who listed the famous QB's to come out of the Pittsburgh area....none of whom played for the Steelers.
Not "touting" Wannstedt either. He was just another head coach from the football factory known as Pittsburgh Pa. is all that I'm saying.
So now we are changing your topic by limiting it to the success of a pro franchise vs a college program?
Your topic says "football places", and you yourself were the one who listed the famous QB's to come out of the Pittsburgh area....none of whom played for the Steelers.
Not "touting" Wannstedt either. He was just another head coach from the football factory known as Pittsburgh Pa. is all that I'm saying.
It is NOT a change in topic to consider a pro franchise vs. a college program. It is what I had to do all along here. I even had to weigh lower college levels and high school level in there. Odessa Texas is in...but Houston TX is not if you will notice.
Valdosta Ga. is in but Atlanta Ga. is not.
Again, I say you make a reasonable point about the QBs.
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FYI..The University of Pittsburgh is also located in the Pittsburg region. A as part of rich football history, the Panthers own 9 national titles to OSU's 8.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Panthers_football
Yes I know, those Pitt championships happened a long time ago, but I'm responding to a guy that gives as much weight to a stupid AAFC Championship as he does to a Super Bowl.LOL
To place Columbus ahead of Pittsburgh amongst the best "football places" is just pure homerism. I think you know that Gip.
FYI..The University of Pittsburgh is also located in the Pittsburg region. A as part of rich football history, the Panthers own 9 national titles to OSU's 8.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Panthers_football
Yes I know, those Pitt championships happened a long time ago, but I'm responding to a guy that gives as much weight to a stupid AAFC Championship as he does to a Super Bowl.LOL
To place Columbus ahead of Pittsburgh amongst the best "football places" is just pure homerism. I think you know that Gip.
Just because you have a valid point does not mean you have a winning point.
One thing for certain, Columbus has more passion for football than Pittsburgh.
Also...I don't know where you are finding 9 titles, I see three:
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Comparing PITT to The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY is a total losing argument, not even close.
Top 25, 10, 5 NC, Heisman winners, TV ratings, overall talent, stadium, student population, total sports teams.....so what else?
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Comparing PITT to The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY is a total losing argument, not even close.
Top 25, 10, 5 NC, Heisman winners, TV ratings, overall talent, stadium, student population, total sports teams.....so what else?
Comparing PITT to The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY is a total losing argument, not even close.
Top 25, 10, 5 NC, Heisman winners, TV ratings, overall talent, stadium, student population, total sports teams.....so what else?
To be fair, I think he was comparing the entirety of the football environment (pro/college/high school) to the entirety of the football environment in Columbus....and I am not saying he does not have a fair point. But to compare Pitt to Ohio St? yea, that would be foolish. I went to a Pitt game once at old Pitt Stadium. It was at best half full. Not sure where they play their games now? the big ketchup bottle?
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Still on Ole' Miss.
What got me the three times I went to a game there, people dress up to go to games. Very few show up looking like a Hobo.
Seriously, they gussy up.
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My original list stated this:
Los Angeles, California. Despite no longer having an NFL team, the area is dedicated to USC football...and produces some of the best football talent in the country from its high schools. Also hosts perhaps the greatest spectacle in football, The Rose Bowl and its parade.
Oakland/East Bay, California. The Raiders, the Hell's Angels of the NFL, along with their crazy fan make the East Bay area a natural for this list. The icing on the cake however is the nearby Concord DeLaSalle High School which has won a record 6 USA Today National High School Championships. Plus, Cal ( or UC-Berkely if you prefer) is an upcoming progam that spent loads to improve their stadium.
LA gets two NFL teams back....ergo, I guess, its place on this list get solidified.
Not so sure about "Oakland/East Bay"...without the Raiders, they are that areas primary claim to fame for football. I don't think UC-Berkely and Concord DeLasalle would be enough to put the East Bay on here.
However, what I think I will do is to amend this position to "The Bay Area"....that way it can take in not only the East Bay football environment...but also include the 49ers, and Stanford, and even the likes of San Jose St. etc.
So just make this the San Francisco Bay area.
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