Trubisky
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Since my time on this board I don't believe Tour and myself have seen eye to eye on QB's.
I liked Garrett Gayson, he liked Petty. I liked Wentz he was camp Goff.
However my thought on Trubs were well echoed by him.
- Not at #1. If he's there at 12, being the best QB in the draft, I wouldn't be ecstatic but it wouldn't bother me at the same time. I just hope should that be the case, RT spot is solidified, mid round weapons can be found and we give this young man time to progress his game. -
Piss up a rope. You expect me to devour every single college game played out there. I see plenty...and I hear about plenty.
I have a life and a wife you know.
Maybe you should think about getting one of each.
Perhaps your complaint should be about the accuracy of what is reported about these games. Commentators on ESPN said Gayrett disappeared in the Bama game......and these guys did see that game. So, what am I supposed to think? That you Texas goat fuckers know more than the guys reporting on ESPN?
A simple search of the game summary along with game stats reveals all you need to know. Add to the FACT he could not play against SC the week before and did not even make the trip and those same reporters saying he played injured most of the year are also facts that somehow you just ignore. So why is it those same experts all agree he is the overwhelming 1st player who should be picked in this draft?
So yeah we know more about that game and fucking goats than they do apparently.

A simple search of the game summary along with game stats reveals all you need to know. Add to the FACT he could not play against SC the week before and did not even make the trip and those same reporters saying he played injured most of the year are also facts that somehow you just ignore. So why is it those same experts all agree he is the overwhelming 1st player who should be picked in this draft?
So yeah we know more about that game and fucking goats than they do apparently.

Why would I want to go to the trouble of doing that? It was a game between two teams I don't care much about...and a game that very well not have been telecast at the time. Plus, I was only reporting what others had said about him in that game. Maybe you take your time to confirm those statements.
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The experts don't know what they're talking about, haven't you read anything Gip has said?A simple search of the game summary along with game stats reveals all you need to know. Add to the FACT he could not play against SC the week before and did not even make the trip and those same reporters saying he played injured most of the year are also facts that somehow you just ignore. So why is it those same experts all agree he is the overwhelming 1st player who should be picked in this draft?
So yeah we know more about that game and fucking goats than they do apparently.

That is, unless they're talking about Trubisky...
The experts don't know what they're talking about, haven't you read anything Gip has said?
That is, unless they're talking about Trubisky...
Some of the experts don't like Trubisky either. And it is invariable that the experts always seem to disagree with each other.
But I at least hear what they have to say.
On the other hand, there is no reason to listen to what you say, because you are certainly no expert.
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The experts don't know what they're talking about, haven't you read anything Gip has said?
That is, unless they're talking about Trubisky...
Or goat fucking.

Or goat fucking.

I WILL defer to you as an expert in that area.

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Joe T. clarifying ESPN's "reporting" of his comments on Trubs...
Joe ThomasVerified account @joethomas73
Just in case anybody was fooled by ESPN today, here's what I actually said yesterday on @923TheFan

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I chose not to list anymore.
I may have some Michigan bias, but I'm pretty level headed compared to how some treat OSU around here
You sealed the deal in our "conversation" about colleges forever ago
Yes, I did. I signed, sealed and delivered that conversation. I know a lot more about colleges and their worthiness than you ever will. Well, maybe not ever. Some day you may have kids and you will have to evaluate colleges like I had to. Though, maybe in your case your maize and glazed eyes will make you insist on them going to your school.
I was not that venal.....and I also knew that the schools I attended were not a well rated academically as the schools I sent my kids to. Also, in my case, my kids had close to total control over where they went....subject to my approval.
I sent my son to THE top academic college in the state. (and certainly better than the school you went to) (and it was his choice to stay in state and not go out of state). And now he is in the process of getting his Ph.D. from an Ivy League school (Cornell). I sent my daughter to perhaps the #2 academic school in the state of Texas (second only to Rice). And in its class, it is considered the #1 regional university in the entire southwest USA. Her choice, but again subject my approval (and it warranted approval).
So don't even think for a moment that you know more about what constitutes a quality education than I do.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities-west
Yes, I did. I signed, sealed and delivered that conversation. I know a lot more about colleges and their worthiness than you ever will. Well, maybe not ever. Some day you may have kids and you will have to evaluate colleges like I had to. Though, maybe in your case your maize and glazed eyes will make you insist on them going to your school.
I was not that venal.....and I also knew that the schools I attended were not a well rated academically as the schools I sent my kids to. Also, in my case, my kids had close to total control over where they went....subject to my approval.
I sent my son to THE top academic college in the state. (and certainly better than the school you went to) (and it was his choice to stay in state and not go out of state). And now he is in the process of getting his Ph.D. from an Ivy League school (Cornell). I sent my daughter to perhaps the #2 academic school in the state of Texas (second only to Rice). And in its class, it is considered the #1 regional university in the entire southwest USA. Her choice, but again subject my approval (and it warranted approval).
So don't even think for a moment that you know more about what constitutes a quality education than I do.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities-west
Hahaha. No you don't man, no you don't.
You had no idea what you were talking about then and still don't.
Really, any other detail I go into here and I'll just come off as an asshole (I'm sure that's "more" of an asshole to some). I'm sorry, but Akron's Engineering is not "top notch" and Miami OH isn't "on par" with Michigan. I really don'y consider tiny little liberal arts schools "superior", but at that point we're comparing apples and oranges.
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University of Michigan all the way.
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Joe T. clarifying ESPN's "reporting" of his comments on Trubs...
Joe ThomasVerified account @joethomas73
Just in case anybody was fooled by ESPN today, here's what I actually said yesterday on @923TheFan

Joe T. clarifying ESPN's "reporting" of his comments on Trubs...
Joe ThomasVerified account @joethomas73
Just in case anybody was fooled by ESPN today, here's what I actually said yesterday on @923TheFan

My board donation just went to buying Ghoolie that Joe Thomas Jersey..It's your turn

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If he turns out to be our QB for the next 15 years, it won't matter if we picked him 1 or 12. In hindsight people will say it's a good thing we picked him #1 overall because the Stoolers were going to come up to 2 and take him.
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If he turns out to be our QB for the next 15 years, it won't matter if we picked him 1 or 12. In hindsight people will say it's a good thing we picked him #1 overall because the Stoolers were going to come up to 2 and take him.
If he turns out to be our QB for the next 15 years, it won't matter if we picked him 1 or 12. In hindsight people will say it's a good thing we picked him #1 overall because the Stoolers were going to come up to 2 and take him.
I'm more worried about Pittsburgh trading up for OJ Howard. I'll bet they end up with Mahomes if they stay put.
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If he turns out to be our QB for the next 15 years, it won't matter if we picked him 1 or 12. In hindsight people will say it's a good thing we picked him #1 overall because the Stoolers were going to come up to 2 and take him.
I'm more worried about Pittsburgh trading up for OJ Howard. I'll bet they end up with Mahomes if they stay put.
I'm more worried about Pittsburgh trading up for OJ Howard. I'll bet they end up with Mahomes if they stay put.
Flug, I don't know who their GM is now but he's as dumb as a bag of rocks
. 1. bye bye Dick Lebeau 2.Your best TE Miller retires & you go get a guy from SD in Green that could never stay healthy in the 1st place in SD..3.Give us a 6th for Gilbert that goes to ST's only cause he still can't cover
.4.Bitchin Ben pulls the Rogers "fix this crap cause am about done" then bag of rocks gm pays his 2 diva's & lets DeAngelo Williams walk plus others...It's our time to Thrash these Thugs.. I don't think they are capable of doing niether 
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I'm more worried about Pittsburgh trading up for OJ Howard. I'll bet they end up with Mahomes if they stay put.
Flug, I don't know who their GM is now but he's as dumb as a bag of rocks
. 1. bye bye Dick Lebeau 2.Your best TE Miller retires & you go get a guy from SD in Green that could never stay healthy in the 1st place in SD..3.Give us a 6th for Gilbert that goes to ST's only cause he still can't cover
.4.Bitchin Ben pulls the Rogers "fix this crap cause am about done" then bag of rocks gm pays his 2 diva's & lets DeAngelo Williams walk plus others...It's our time to Thrash these Thugs.. I don't think they are capable of doing niether 
Flug, I don't know who their GM is now but he's as dumb as a bag of rocks
. 1. bye bye Dick Lebeau 2.Your best TE Miller retires & you go get a guy from SD in Green that could never stay healthy in the 1st place in SD..3.Give us a 6th for Gilbert that goes to ST's only cause he still can't cover
.4.Bitchin Ben pulls the Rogers "fix this crap cause am about done" then bag of rocks gm pays his 2 diva's & lets DeAngelo Williams walk plus others...It's our time to Thrash these Thugs.. I don't think they are capable of doing niether 
All Planet Post right there! Thanks Gumby!
Now let's hope the Ratbirds don't take OJ Howard.
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I'm more worried about Pittsburgh trading up for OJ Howard. I'll bet they end up with Mahomes if they stay put.
Flug, I don't know who their GM is now but he's as dumb as a bag of rocks
. 1. bye bye Dick Lebeau 2.Your best TE Miller retires & you go get a guy from SD in Green that could never stay healthy in the 1st place in SD..3.Give us a 6th for Gilbert that goes to ST's only cause he still can't cover
.4.Bitchin Ben pulls the Rogers "fix this crap cause am about done" then bag of rocks gm pays his 2 diva's & lets DeAngelo Williams walk plus others...It's our time to Thrash these Thugs.. I don't think they are capable of doing niether 
Flug, I don't know who their GM is now but he's as dumb as a bag of rocks
. 1. bye bye Dick Lebeau 2.Your best TE Miller retires & you go get a guy from SD in Green that could never stay healthy in the 1st place in SD..3.Give us a 6th for Gilbert that goes to ST's only cause he still can't cover
.4.Bitchin Ben pulls the Rogers "fix this crap cause am about done" then bag of rocks gm pays his 2 diva's & lets DeAngelo Williams walk plus others...It's our time to Thrash these Thugs.. I don't think they are capable of doing niether 
Relish in the fact that it's the beginning to their end and the start of our beginning.
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I was going to say Goat roper...but I decided to spice it up a bit. (and maybe in the case of some of our Texas denizens here...make it more accurate...
)What?
You do seem to bave a bias againt folks who live or are from points south of the Ohio River.
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Yes, I did. I signed, sealed and delivered that conversation. I know a lot more about colleges and their worthiness than you ever will. Well, maybe not ever. Some day you may have kids and you will have to evaluate colleges like I had to. Though, maybe in your case your maize and glazed eyes will make you insist on them going to your school.
I was not that venal.....and I also knew that the schools I attended were not a well rated academically as the schools I sent my kids to. Also, in my case, my kids had close to total control over where they went....subject to my approval.
I sent my son to THE top academic college in the state. (and certainly better than the school you went to) (and it was his choice to stay in state and not go out of state). And now he is in the process of getting his Ph.D. from an Ivy League school (Cornell). I sent my daughter to perhaps the #2 academic school in the state of Texas (second only to Rice). And in its class, it is considered the #1 regional university in the entire southwest USA. Her choice, but again subject my approval (and it warranted approval).
So don't even think for a moment that you know more about what constitutes a quality education than I do.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/regional-universities-west
Hahaha. No you don't man, no you don't.
You had no idea what you were talking about then and still don't.
Really, any other detail I go into here and I'll just come off as an asshole (I'm sure that's "more" of an asshole to some). I'm sorry, but Akron's Engineering is not "top notch" and Miami OH isn't "on par" with Michigan. I really don'y consider tiny little liberal arts schools "superior", but at that point we're comparing apples and oranges.
Hahaha. No you don't man, no you don't.
You had no idea what you were talking about then and still don't.
I know I know more than you ever will.
Really, any other detail I go into here and I'll just come off as an asshole (I'm sure that's "more" of an asshole to some).
So...do you really not think you don't already come off as an asshole?
I'm sorry, but Akron's Engineering is not "top notch" and Miami OH isn't "on par" with Michigan. I really don'y consider tiny little liberal arts schools "superior", but at that point we're comparing apples and oranges.
Well...lets put it this way...from anecdotal evidence, the people I know from the engineering department ARE better than the people I know from the
Michigan engineering department. If that were to extrapolate to all graduates, then it certainly would be the case. Though, yes, it may not extrapolate.
And...no shit Sherlock. A huge university is an apples and oranges comparison to a small liberal arts college.
And certainly I am not saying that all liberal arts colleges are superior to all major universities.
I am only saying that the ones I am associated with....in their fields, are better that the one you are associated with in the same fields.
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I was going to say Goat roper...but I decided to spice it up a bit. (and maybe in the case of some of our Texas denizens here...make it more accurate...
)What?
You do seem to bave a bias againt folks who live or are from points south of the Ohio River.
What?
You do seem to bave a bias againt folks who live or are from points south of the Ohio River.
Nah, you know me. I just like giving people from Texas some good natured shit. (besides, fyi, my daughter lives in Texas....and I give her the same shit sometimes)
And the same with Woody...and he is from Meeeshugan.
And think of the shit I give people from Pittsburgh...and the Ohio River bifurcates that town.
But, you know, people from Tennessee, like you and Flugel? Boy oh boy oh boy!!

(hey, besides, my Dad is from south of the Ohio...Bowling Green Ky. And my mom is from south of a river...the River Thames)
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Browns will host Mitch Trubisky for a private workout in Berea Friday
PHOENIX -- The Browns will conduct a private workout with Mitch Trubisky on Friday, but all they have to do is walk downstairs to their fieldhouse for the session, league sources tell cleveland.com.
Trubisky, the Mentor, Ohio native and former Ohio Mr. Football, will participate in the Browns visit day Friday for local college prospects who attended high school or college in the area.
Unlike the other 30 pre-draft the Browns are permitted, the local prospects are allowed to work out at the Browns' facility during the hometown day. That means the Browns don't have to spend one of their 30 visits on Trubisky, and they can conduct the visit and the workout all on the same day.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns_will_host_mitch_trubisk.html
Hometown Day exemption... interesting loophole.
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Browns will host Mitch Trubisky for a private workout in Berea Friday
PHOENIX -- The Browns will conduct a private workout with Mitch Trubisky on Friday, but all they have to do is walk downstairs to their fieldhouse for the session, league sources tell cleveland.com.
Trubisky, the Mentor, Ohio native and former Ohio Mr. Football, will participate in the Browns visit day Friday for local college prospects who attended high school or college in the area.
Unlike the other 30 pre-draft the Browns are permitted, the local prospects are allowed to work out at the Browns' facility during the hometown day. That means the Browns don't have to spend one of their 30 visits on Trubisky, and they can conduct the visit and the workout all on the same day.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns_will_host_mitch_trubisk.html
Hometown Day exemption... interesting loophole.
Browns will host Mitch Trubisky for a private workout in Berea Friday
PHOENIX -- The Browns will conduct a private workout with Mitch Trubisky on Friday, but all they have to do is walk downstairs to their fieldhouse for the session, league sources tell cleveland.com.
Trubisky, the Mentor, Ohio native and former Ohio Mr. Football, will participate in the Browns visit day Friday for local college prospects who attended high school or college in the area.
Unlike the other 30 pre-draft the Browns are permitted, the local prospects are allowed to work out at the Browns' facility during the hometown day. That means the Browns don't have to spend one of their 30 visits on Trubisky, and they can conduct the visit and the workout all on the same day.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/browns_will_host_mitch_trubisk.html
Hometown Day exemption... interesting loophole.
hence the reason they skipped his pro day.
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Hue Jackson just said that this might not be the year we get our QB of the future. As much as that completely hurts to hear, it's something I've been thinking a lot about. We have a ton of picks, and quality picks at that. So what if we do the unthinkable and just MAKE the selections? What can we do with the first overall pick, the #12, the #33, and the Titans' 2nd rounder? That's a bunch of swings at the plate. Even though those four selections represent rookies, and you never know with them, I think our team is better than last year's. Part of that has to do with how AWFUL we were, but part of that also has to do with the talent we are acquiring. We nail those picks this year....and anything is possible. My goal is to build something like the Texans. Let's get that defense rocking, let's run the ball, let's win the close games. We could go from one win to 5-6, and while that doesn't sound "amazing", I think it would represent a solid season.
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Hue Jackson just said that this might not be the year we get our QB of the future. As much as that completely hurts to hear, it's something I've been thinking a lot about. We have a ton of picks, and quality picks at that. So what if we do the unthinkable and just MAKE the selections? What can we do with the first overall pick, the #12, the #33, and the Titans' 2nd rounder? That's a bunch of swings at the plate. Even though those four selections represent rookies, and you never know with them, I think our team is better than last year's. Part of that has to do with how AWFUL we were, but part of that also has to do with the talent we are acquiring. We nail those picks this year....and anything is possible. My goal is to build something like the Texans. Let's get that defense rocking, let's run the ball, let's win the close games. We could go from one win to 5-6, and while that doesn't sound "amazing", I think it would represent a solid season.
Hue Jackson just said that this might not be the year we get our QB of the future. As much as that completely hurts to hear, it's something I've been thinking a lot about. We have a ton of picks, and quality picks at that. So what if we do the unthinkable and just MAKE the selections? What can we do with the first overall pick, the #12, the #33, and the Titans' 2nd rounder? That's a bunch of swings at the plate. Even though those four selections represent rookies, and you never know with them, I think our team is better than last year's. Part of that has to do with how AWFUL we were, but part of that also has to do with the talent we are acquiring. We nail those picks this year....and anything is possible. My goal is to build something like the Texans. Let's get that defense rocking, let's run the ball, let's win the close games. We could go from one win to 5-6, and while that doesn't sound "amazing", I think it would represent a solid season.
It is simple what to do. If you are not going to prioritize a QB, then you just take the best player available. Anyone we get, if they turn out to be good, can help this team. We just don't need any more busts. We have already fulfilled our quota for the decade.
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