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  • @topdawg31 said:

    This team is already loaded with DL.

    What statistic can you offer to back up that opinion?

    @tour2ma said:

    What statistic can you offer to back up that opinion?

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins. Adding Garrett to that would be awesome, however he is a luxury and we need a QB. Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach. As for the not #1 worthy BS, If any of them prove to be our savior it won't matter where we picked him.

  • @flugel said:

    It was also fun to watch Safety Ray Ellis (#24) sticking people hard enough to cause turnovers. When we've made the playoffs, we had really good Safeties like Don Rodgers, Ray Ellis, and Eric Turner. I'm glad this draft is really strong at Safety. It's about time we get a good one again.

    Lets not forget Felix Wright , either.. He wasnt chopped liver by any means.

    @nickers said:

    Lets not forget Felix Wright , either.. He wasnt chopped liver by any means.

    Yeah, he had great instincts and led the conference with 10 INTs one of the years. Thanks for bringing him up Nickers. Thane Gash and Stevon Moore were also reliable Safeties back when we were good.

  • and just ahead of those guys....was the great Tom Darden....

  • @tour2ma said:

    What statistic can you offer to back up that opinion?

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins. Adding Garrett to that would be awesome, however he is a luxury and we need a QB. Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach. As for the not #1 worthy BS, If any of them prove to be our savior it won't matter where we picked him.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins.

    Solomon Thomas or Allen seem to be the better fit to spell Meder or Cooper but damn if we pass on The Freak the Sunday Comic section will be about 8 pages thicker.I like OG-Lava-Des-Myles..Would Allen or Thomas be much better than Des/Cooper or Meder is the real question?(let's move it out of a great tread though)

  • and just ahead of those guys....was the great Tom Darden....

    @mudfly said:

    and just ahead of those guys....was the great Tom Darden....

    Oh yeah! Great guy to remember. He made a Pro Bowl and led the NFL in INTs in 78 and played solid football from 72-81. I think he finished with 45 INTs and 2 TDs. I think he still leads us in INTs all time but that might need some double-checking.

  • @tour2ma said:

    What statistic can you offer to back up that opinion?

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins. Adding Garrett to that would be awesome, however he is a luxury and we need a QB. Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach. As for the not #1 worthy BS, If any of them prove to be our savior it won't matter where we picked him.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins. Adding Garrett to that would be awesome, however he is a luxury and we need a QB. Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach. As for the not #1 worthy BS, IF any of them prove to be our savior it won't matter where we picked him.

    I posted this groupd "numbers" in another thread... they are not pretty.

    And I fixed your QB take... biggest "IF" I could find...

  • @tour2ma said:

    What statistic can you offer to back up that opinion?

    Numbers man, numbers, Meder, Bryant, Ogbah, Nassib, Shelton,Cooper plus the other fill ins. Adding Garrett to that would be awesome, however he is a luxury and we need a QB. Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach. As for the not #1 worthy BS, If any of them prove to be our savior it won't matter where we picked him.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach.

    "Hope" is not a plan.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Get the QB then hope for allen at 12 would be my approach.

    "Hope" is not a plan.

    @texasag1969 said:

    "Hope" is not a plan.

    And looking for a QB in the later rounds is? Draft is a crap shoot. Garrett could be Courtney Brown/Mingo we just don't know. Play the odds QB then BPA at 12.

  • We cant pass on garett, the #1 shouldnt be a discussion right now. Its garett and thats that. If he flubs then fine, but you cant pass on a kid with his work ethic and willing to fight through injury. He's a warrior. Hopefully williams is the right DC to bring him along and address his deficiencies.

    We can about 12.....i like the idea of a safety at 12.

  • But back to the 86 browns. Who was it that was saying the o line got royally pissed when gastineau hit BK and after that the browns started rolling downfield....?

    That struck me, we need offensive lineman like that again