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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @choco said:

    Dafaq? Pointed out by who? Gip? Need sauce on that, cause my bullshit meter is pegged.

    I'm sure you may find one crazy hermit that thinks that, but that certainly not the consensus.

    From NFL.com who also says Leonard Fournette is comparable to Bo Fucking Jackson.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #197

    @logicisforsquares said:

    From NFL.com ...

    If it's true that Trubs is the best since Luck, then why can't we all see it? Can't be but 1 in 4 here that do.

    I wasn't around at the time, but I have to believe it was closer to 3 in 4 in Luck's case. Maybe some that were around here when Luck came out can chime in.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @logicisforsquares said:

    From NFL.com ...

    If it's true that Trubs is the best since Luck, then why can't we all see it? Can't be but 1 in 4 here that do.

    I wasn't around at the time, but I have to believe it was closer to 3 in 4 in Luck's case. Maybe some that were around here when Luck came out can chime in.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #198

    @tour2ma said:

    If it's true that Trubs is the best since Luck, then why can't we all see it? Can't be but 1 in 4 here that do.

    I wasn't around at the time, but I have to believe it was closer to 3 in 4 in Luck's case. Maybe some that were around here when Luck came out can chime in.

    While anecdotal, I don't recall any dissenting opinions on Luck being the number one prospect (not just QB) that year among the experts.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #199

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    LogicIsForSquaresL W 2 Replies
  • C Clevfan4life

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #200

    @clevfan4life said:

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    Everyone should be firmly aware of that. Fournette is also not Bo Jackson. People would be sprinting to the podium for Andrew Luck and Bo Jackson 2.0.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #201

    Not a Manning or an Elway either. Just a QB with 5 losses in his only year.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #202

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • chocoC choco

    @hoorta said:

    It's been pointed out Trubs is rated as high as anyone since Luck. We gonna pass again?

    Dafaq? Pointed out by who? Gip? Need sauce on that, cause my bullshit meter is pegged.

    I'm sure you may find one crazy hermit that thinks that, but that certainly not the consensus.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #203

    @choco said:

    Dafaq? Pointed out by who? Gip? Need sauce on that, cause my bullshit meter is pegged.

    I'm sure you may find one crazy hermit that thinks that, but that certainly not the consensus.

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    chocoC 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    Not a Manning or an Elway either. Just a QB with 5 losses in his only year.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #204

    @texasag1969 said:

    Not a Manning or an Elway either. Just a QB with 5 losses in his only year.

    And your boys team had just as many. And he played defense on a team that gave up the likes of 54 points and 38 points and the like....but they sure did well against Prairie View, Texas San Antonio, and New Mexico State. There ain't no Prairie Views in the NFL

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #205

    @tour2ma said:

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    Well, it is done for NFL QBs. But for sure it is an entire team matter.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #206

    @tour2ma said:

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    Cam Newton - National Junior College Champion and NCAA Div I National Champion. Nah, those records mean nothing at all when it comes to losses.

    And Gip you have been arguing for months that the QB makes the most difference in wins, but now you want to change that to a DE? A bit hypocritical, no?

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #207

    I love when people use the "win" factor.....example.....Chargers picked Bosa and didnt win more games, how'd that pick work for ya???"

    That is a dumb ass argument.....and we hear it over and over again....

    Cant we all agree that there is no "one" player that is the difference for a team as bad as the Browns? it will take many "better players than we have" to make this team competitive.....many........(many)

    MANY(LOTS).....more than one.......etc

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Sacks: Total / Leader

    • 2016: 26 / Ogbah 6.0
    • 2015: 29 / A. Bryant 5.5
    • 2014: 30 / Kruger 11.0
    • 2013: 49 / Sheard 5.5
    • 2012: 37 / Sheard 7.0
    • 2011: 39 / Sheard 8.5
    • 2010: 29 / Benard 7.5
    • 2009: 40 / Wimbley 6.5
    • 2008: 17 / Rogers 4.5
    • 2007: 28 / Wimbley 5.0
    • 2006: 28 / Wimbley 11... need I go on?

    It's be nice to see a double digit leader again. It's be nice to average 3+ per game again as a team...

    #Front2backInsideout...

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #208

    @tour2ma said:

    Sacks: Total / Leader

    • 2010: 29 / Benard 7.5

    Maybe I am having a brain fart, maybe it is all too telling ... but as i sit here, I literally don't know who that is.

    Zombo

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    I fail to see the value of quoting "QB" W/L records...

    Cam Newton - National Junior College Champion and NCAA Div I National Champion. Nah, those records mean nothing at all when it comes to losses.

    And Gip you have been arguing for months that the QB makes the most difference in wins, but now you want to change that to a DE? A bit hypocritical, no?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #209

    @texasag1969 said:

    Cam Newton - National Junior College Champion and NCAA Div I National Champion. Nah, those records mean nothing at all when it comes to losses.

    And Gip you have been arguing for months that the QB makes the most difference in wins, but now you want to change that to a DE? A bit hypocritical, no?

    You are obviously having trouble interpreting the English language. Of course the QB is the most important cog. But all I pointed out is that the TAMU defense kind of sucked....unless they were playing the Little Sisters of the poor.

    You tout this guy as Superman....yet he had little effect on keeping the other team from scoring in college. What effect will he have in the pros?

    Not near as much as a QB.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    I love when people use the "win" factor.....example.....Chargers picked Bosa and didnt win more games, how'd that pick work for ya???"

    That is a dumb ass argument.....and we hear it over and over again....

    Cant we all agree that there is no "one" player that is the difference for a team as bad as the Browns? it will take many "better players than we have" to make this team competitive.....many........(many)

    MANY(LOTS).....more than one.......etc

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #210

    @mudfly said:

    I love when people use the "win" factor.....example.....Chargers picked Bosa and didnt win more games, how'd that pick work for ya???"

    That is a dumb ass argument.....and we hear it over and over again....

    Cant we all agree that there is no "one" player that is the difference for a team as bad as the Browns? it will take many "better players than we have" to make this team competitive.....many........(many)

    MANY(LOTS).....more than one.......etc

    Certainly. But a good leader can have a great effect on a team. While they must have other good players, a Brady, a Rodgers, a Peyton Can and do have serious impact on overall team performance.

    I mean, there are very few people that would think, say, taking Bernie Kosar out of a game and putting in Todd Philcox would not make any difference. Yet there was one genius who once upon a time apparently felt that.

  • Z Zombo

    @tour2ma said:

    Sacks: Total / Leader

    • 2010: 29 / Benard 7.5

    Maybe I am having a brain fart, maybe it is all too telling ... but as i sit here, I literally don't know who that is.

    Zombo

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #211

    Zombo said:

    Maybe I am having a brain fart, maybe it is all too telling ... but as i sit here, I literally don't know who that is.

    Say it ain't so, Zo... would a first name have helped?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Benard

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    Ohio State's School of Earth Sciences is a fine place for an undergrad to lay the groundwork for a career in paleontology, the study of what fossils tell scientists about the past.

    Fortunately he has a good chance of being taken by the Browns so he can come to the Browns Board to study fossilized dinosaurs. 😉

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #212

    @texasag1969 said:

    Fortunately he has a good chance of being taken by the Browns so he can come to the Browns Board to study fossilized dinosaurs. 😉

    There are many fossils to be found in the Ohio shale near Cleveland. 🙂

    @logicisforsquares said:

    From NFL.com who also says Leonard Fournette is comparable to Bo Fucking Jackson.

    Like hell. Fournette is a turtle compared to Jackson. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/02/is_bo_jackson_the_true_record-.html

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #213

    Bo was an insane athlete.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @choco said:

    Dafaq? Pointed out by who? Gip? Need sauce on that, cause my bullshit meter is pegged.

    I'm sure you may find one crazy hermit that thinks that, but that certainly not the consensus.

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    chocoC choco wrote on
    #214

    @the-gipper said:

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • C Clevfan4life

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    W Westside Steve wrote on
    #215

    @clevfan4life said:

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

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    The GipperT C 2 Replies
  • chocoC choco

    @the-gipper said:

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #216

    @choco said:

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    I didn't miss any fucking point. I just don't have the site for you. It was on this fucking board. I saw it...it was referred to any number of times....so it wasn't me that missed the point..it was YOU. Read the fucking board.

    And as for my profession....I did read and see this stuff. So, perhaps since you are a rent boy as your line of work that explains why you miss so much. You always have your head in someone's lap.

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    Everyone has an opinion.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

    Apparently NOT..since you missed multiple references to that grading system referred to on here multiple times.

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