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  • I love when people use the "win" factor.....example.....Chargers picked Bosa and didnt win more games, how'd that pick work for ya???"

    That is a dumb ass argument.....and we hear it over and over again....

    Cant we all agree that there is no "one" player that is the difference for a team as bad as the Browns? it will take many "better players than we have" to make this team competitive.....many........(many)

    MANY(LOTS).....more than one.......etc

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    I love when people use the "win" factor.....example.....Chargers picked Bosa and didnt win more games, how'd that pick work for ya???"

    That is a dumb ass argument.....and we hear it over and over again....

    Cant we all agree that there is no "one" player that is the difference for a team as bad as the Browns? it will take many "better players than we have" to make this team competitive.....many........(many)

    MANY(LOTS).....more than one.......etc

    Certainly. But a good leader can have a great effect on a team. While they must have other good players, a Brady, a Rodgers, a Peyton Can and do have serious impact on overall team performance.

    I mean, there are very few people that would think, say, taking Bernie Kosar out of a game and putting in Todd Philcox would not make any difference. Yet there was one genius who once upon a time apparently felt that.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Sacks: Total / Leader

    • 2010: 29 / Benard 7.5

    Maybe I am having a brain fart, maybe it is all too telling ... but as i sit here, I literally don't know who that is.

    Zombo

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Zombo said:

    Maybe I am having a brain fart, maybe it is all too telling ... but as i sit here, I literally don't know who that is.

    Say it ain't so, Zo... would a first name have helped?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Benard

  • @tour2ma said:

    Ohio State's School of Earth Sciences is a fine place for an undergrad to lay the groundwork for a career in paleontology, the study of what fossils tell scientists about the past.

    Fortunately he has a good chance of being taken by the Browns so he can come to the Browns Board to study fossilized dinosaurs. 😉

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @texasag1969 said:

    Fortunately he has a good chance of being taken by the Browns so he can come to the Browns Board to study fossilized dinosaurs. 😉

    There are many fossils to be found in the Ohio shale near Cleveland. 🙂

    @logicisforsquares said:

    From NFL.com who also says Leonard Fournette is comparable to Bo Fucking Jackson.

    Like hell. Fournette is a turtle compared to Jackson. http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/02/is_bo_jackson_the_true_record-.html

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by

    Bo was an insane athlete.

  • @choco said:

    Dafaq? Pointed out by who? Gip? Need sauce on that, cause my bullshit meter is pegged.

    I'm sure you may find one crazy hermit that thinks that, but that certainly not the consensus.

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

  • Trubs is no andrew luck

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

  • @the-gipper said:

    It was some grading system. Not sure whose. I think Tour posted it. It has been on here. If you read the board you would not have missed it.

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @choco said:

    how can you be a lawyer yet always miss the point? Good lord man...

    So that's great...One grading system...One, as in not plural, multiple. Kno what a single data point is good for?

    I didn't miss any fucking point. I just don't have the site for you. It was on this fucking board. I saw it...it was referred to any number of times....so it wasn't me that missed the point..it was YOU. Read the fucking board.

    And as for my profession....I did read and see this stuff. So, perhaps since you are a rent boy as your line of work that explains why you miss so much. You always have your head in someone's lap.

    Here's another data point. Jeremiah/Brooks rated trub 9th best prospect to come out since 2012...Luck was #1...Guess where johnny was? Yup...Above your lover boy.

    Everyone has an opinion.

    I read board... Apparently you don't.

    Apparently NOT..since you missed multiple references to that grading system referred to on here multiple times.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

    Partly because that team around him is so poor as well.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Trubs is no andrew luck

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    So far Andrew Luck is no Andrew Luck.

    WSS

    When he came into the league he had at least a fairly competent o line, the results spoke for themselves. What we see now is what would have happened if the browns drafted him. Dinged and binged and not much long for this league.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Luck has definitely regressed under the weight of the David Carr Syndrome... or Tim Couch Syndrome, if you prefer.

    Weak D, with weak OL and little run game will take its toll.

  • Luck has definitely regressed under the weight of the David Carr Syndrome... or Tim Couch Syndrome, if you prefer.

    Weak D, with weak OL and little run game will take its toll.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tour2ma said:

    Luck has definitely regressed under the weight of the David Carr Syndrome... or Tim Couch Syndrome, if you prefer.

    Weak D, with weak OL and little run game will take its toll.

    Yep. Our OL will make some difference....assuming it plays up to expectations. But we also need that QB that can make quick decisions and that has a quick release.

    BO did not seem to be that guy in his stint in Houston...did he? And Kessler does not seem to really be that guy either....unless he improves greatly after his rookie season.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Luck has definitely regressed under the weight of the David Carr Syndrome... or Tim Couch Syndrome, if you prefer.

    Weak D, with weak OL and little run game will take its toll.

    Yep. Our OL will make some difference....assuming it plays up to expectations. But we also need that QB that can make quick decisions and that has a quick release.

    BO did not seem to be that guy in his stint in Houston...did he? And Kessler does not seem to really be that guy either....unless he improves greatly after his rookie season.

    B BroncoLurker wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    Yep. Our OL will make some difference....assuming it plays up to expectations. But we also need that QB that can make quick decisions and that has a quick release.

    BO did not seem to be that guy in his stint in Houston...did he? And Kessler does not seem to really be that guy either....unless he improves greatly after his rookie season.

    No, he has not been that kind of guy. He shows flashes at times, but so far he has looked like a mid to upper level backup. If you go with Brock and your ground game really steps up, and your line plays up to its potential, then I think he might be able to succeed. He is definitely not a guy you can lean on. I think there have been more qbs in the past like that than you would think though. There have been several good qbs change teams in the past and not live up to expectations. Some of that is because the teams have a more solid foundation than people give them credit for. They go to a team without that foundation and it shows. I think BO is similar, just without the luxury of ever being with a team with that solid foundation.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-ron-rivera-im-not-gonna-lie-cam-newton-was-shook-last-season/

    "On Wednesday from the league meetings in Arizona, Panthers coach Ron Rivera expounded on what Newton endured last season.

    “He’s gonna have to rebuild his confidence. I mean, he was shook. Let’s be honest. I’m not going to lie about that,” Rivera said, via NFL.com. “The young man went through a tough time and we went through a tough time. Why? Because of the injuries that we suffered on the offensive line. That was probably was the biggest thing. It just kind of shows you the more of the importance of being able to protect your quarterback.”

    Well Duh!!

  • http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-ron-rivera-im-not-gonna-lie-cam-newton-was-shook-last-season/

    "On Wednesday from the league meetings in Arizona, Panthers coach Ron Rivera expounded on what Newton endured last season.

    “He’s gonna have to rebuild his confidence. I mean, he was shook. Let’s be honest. I’m not going to lie about that,” Rivera said, via NFL.com. “The young man went through a tough time and we went through a tough time. Why? Because of the injuries that we suffered on the offensive line. That was probably was the biggest thing. It just kind of shows you the more of the importance of being able to protect your quarterback.”

    Well Duh!!

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by hoorta

    @texasag1969 said:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-ron-rivera-im-not-gonna-lie-cam-newton-was-shook-last-season/

    "On Wednesday from the league meetings in Arizona, Panthers coach Ron Rivera expounded on what Newton endured last season.

    “He’s gonna have to rebuild his confidence. I mean, he was shook. Let’s be honest. I’m not going to lie about that,” Rivera said, via NFL.com. “The young man went through a tough time and we went through a tough time. Why? Because of the injuries that we suffered on the offensive line. That was probably was the biggest thing. It just kind of shows you the more of the importance of being able to protect your quarterback.”

    Well Duh!!

    No....that can't be possible. Ron Rivera clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Offensive lineman are all fatasses with no talent and they're a dime a dozen. Doesn't matter who they are, they are all interchangeable.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone

    The fact that Garrett competed today at his pro-day, when he easily could've Jadeveon Clowney'd it, makes me feel much better about his motor. I'm still not 100% sold on him, but today got me closer.

  • One PostO One Post wrote on last edited by

    Garrett is this years Clowney.

    If you want him get him question is who wants the #1 this year? We can still trade down a couple of spots and get a blue chipper.

  • Garrett is this years Clowney.

    If you want him get him question is who wants the #1 this year? We can still trade down a couple of spots and get a blue chipper.

    runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by

    @one-post said:

    Garrett is this years Clowney.

    If you want him get him question is who wants the #1 this year? We can still trade down a couple of spots and get a blue chipper.

    We suck at the trade down, lets just take the best guy for once.

  • @one-post said:

    Garrett is this years Clowney.

    If you want him get him question is who wants the #1 this year? We can still trade down a couple of spots and get a blue chipper.

    We suck at the trade down, lets just take the best guy for once.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    @runyon27 said:

    We suck at the trade down, lets just take the best guy for once.

    Uhhhh yep!!!

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    The word suck actually isnt strong enuff to define our ineptitude at the strategic trade down

  • @runyon27 said:

    We suck at the trade down, lets just take the best guy for once.

    Uhhhh yep!!!

    ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    Uhhhh yep!!!

    You wanna go do karate in the basement!!