OK, just announce we're taking Garrett....
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Agree on both issues Tour.
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Bucky article on MG ending in a comparison to Julius Peppers who ignited the rise of the Panthers' franchise.
I forget sometimes how impactful Julius was in his youth.Book on Myles Garrett: Like Julius Peppers, a generational talent
"He's a face-of-the-franchise, cornerstone guy. He's a can't-miss prospect. There simply aren't many guys like this walking the planet." -- NFC personnel executive
When I look at his natural pass-rush ability and his movement skills, he reminds me of Julius Peppers during his prime. As a member of the Carolina Panthers' front office during the early years of Peppers' career, I saw him single-handedly reverse the fortunes of a franchise with his mere presence on the edge.
Note the tabs at the top of the article to other top prospects. Bucky has started impressing me with his writing...
Bucky article on MG ending in a comparison to Julius Peppers who ignited the rise of the Panthers' franchise.
I forget sometimes how impactful Julius was in his youth.
Book on Myles Garrett: Like Julius Peppers, a generational talent
"He's a face-of-the-franchise, cornerstone guy. He's a can't-miss prospect. There simply aren't many guys like this walking the planet." -- NFC personnel executive
When I look at his natural pass-rush ability and his movement skills, he reminds me of Julius Peppers during his prime. As a member of the Carolina Panthers' front office during the early years of Peppers' career, I saw him single-handedly reverse the fortunes of a franchise with his mere presence on the edge.
Note the tabs at the top of the article to other top prospects. Bucky has started impressing me with his writing...
And does what our team desperately need on defense? ALL OF THIS. God, can you imagine having an impact defender that actually SCARES people?
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Bucky article on MG ending in a comparison to Julius Peppers who ignited the rise of the Panthers' franchise.
I forget sometimes how impactful Julius was in his youth.
Book on Myles Garrett: Like Julius Peppers, a generational talent
"He's a face-of-the-franchise, cornerstone guy. He's a can't-miss prospect. There simply aren't many guys like this walking the planet." -- NFC personnel executive
When I look at his natural pass-rush ability and his movement skills, he reminds me of Julius Peppers during his prime. As a member of the Carolina Panthers' front office during the early years of Peppers' career, I saw him single-handedly reverse the fortunes of a franchise with his mere presence on the edge.
Note the tabs at the top of the article to other top prospects. Bucky has started impressing me with his writing...
And does what our team desperately need on defense? ALL OF THIS. God, can you imagine having an impact defender that actually SCARES people?
And does what our team desperately need on defense? ALL OF THIS. God, can you imagine having an impact defender that actually SCARES people?
Ca you imagine the Browns superbraintrust passing him up? Just ask Mud.
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it remains to be seen if Garrett is that generational talent. If i recall Peppers correctly, he was further along at this point than Garrett is. Garrett still needs alot of work against the run. Calling him the next anybody is premature. And frankly i don't want to put those expectations on him. LIke in two years if we're not in the superbowl everybody's gonna be like fuck you Myles? Im willing to let the kid learn and grow here in Cleveland without heaping unobtainable expectations on him.
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it remains to be seen if Garrett is that generational talent. If i recall Peppers correctly, he was further along at this point than Garrett is. Garrett still needs alot of work against the run. Calling him the next anybody is premature. And frankly i don't want to put those expectations on him. LIke in two years if we're not in the superbowl everybody's gonna be like fuck you Myles? Im willing to let the kid learn and grow here in Cleveland without heaping unobtainable expectations on him.
LIke in two years if we're not in the superbowl everybody's gonna be like fuck you Myles?
Can't speak for "everybody", but I won't be...
We've our share of unrealistic fans, but 1-15 to SB in two years? That should trim the herd considerably...
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And as I have stated elsewhere (or should have if I didn't), how he does his year is entirely dependent in how well this braintrust builds the rest of the defense around him. One man does not a defense make as was proven by A&M's lack of a quality/depth in the rest of the players they had trying to assist him. SEC OCs recognized that and designed gameplans to maximize keeping him at bay with plays away and double/triple teams, even when he was hurt. NFL team will find the weak links in the Browns D unless this draft concentrates on more than just Garrett. At least 4 of the top 5 picks need to be defenders in such a deep defensive draft.
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In the words of Wayne Campbell... "Shah!"
Of course teams will try to exploit our defensive weakness same as every offense does every defense every Sunday. Garrett's going to see plays away, get "chipped" regularly as does every other Edge stud in the league. But as the other great ones do, when he gets his shots, he's going to have to cash them.
He's going to have to recognize and run down plays away. And when he's not facing read-option, dual-threat QBs week in and week out, he should be free to do so. Dalton may burn him once or twice, but Ben won't. Reverses??? PTG will throw those at him, but he has to "recognize".
He's going to have to "win" his share of one-on-one, PassPro battles, when presented with them. Doesn't mean a sack every time... just a pressure... a flush... even a stunt that draws OL attention needed elsewhere... any effort that contributes to any "get-the-QB-off-his-spot" result.
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it remains to be seen if Garrett is that generational talent. If i recall Peppers correctly, he was further along at this point than Garrett is. Garrett still needs alot of work against the run. Calling him the next anybody is premature. And frankly i don't want to put those expectations on him. LIke in two years if we're not in the superbowl everybody's gonna be like fuck you Myles? Im willing to let the kid learn and grow here in Cleveland without heaping unobtainable expectations on him.
...... without heaping unobtainable expectations on him.
...or any pick ftm.......
when your team is as bad as the Browns, there is no single player thats going to make a big difference in the final record...
Its gonna take a group of high talent players to raise the bar with the Browns.....
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...... without heaping unobtainable expectations on him.
...or any pick ftm.......
when your team is as bad as the Browns, there is no single player thats going to make a big difference in the final record...
Its gonna take a group of high talent players to raise the bar with the Browns.....
Its gonna take a group of high talent players to raise the bar with the Browns.....
I agree whole heartedly, which is why i like our DE rotations porential with garrett in there. Im kind of piqued thinking about the likes of nassib, og, garett and maybe that wynn kid rotating in fresh. We saw how a talented pass rush can tire out in the SB.
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Its gonna take a group of high talent players to raise the bar with the Browns.....
I agree whole heartedly, which is why i like our DE rotations porential with garrett in there. Im kind of piqued thinking about the likes of nassib, og, garett and maybe that wynn kid rotating in fresh. We saw how a talented pass rush can tire out in the SB.
I agree whole heartedly, which is why i like our DE rotations porential with garrett in there. Im kind of piqued thinking about the likes of nassib, og, garett and maybe that wynn kid rotating in fresh. We saw how a talented pass rush can tire out in the SB.
Yep...our starting 4 would actually look pretty decent.....plus, Nassib is the type of guy you root for, so hoping to see him develop some game.....and, I think Meder could do well in a 4 man set....
My primary 4 would be Ogbah....Shelton....Bryant.....Garrett.....then, off the bench, Meder inside and Nassib outside.....or maybe even Orchard stepping up.....
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Nassibs findamentals are even better than garrets so dont be surprised if forcat least a portion of the year garrett sees pass rushing downs mainly. If nassib got stronger he'll eclipse ogbah shortly unless ogbah gets better at some stuff as well. Nassibs run technique was"first class" toward the end of the season. And that was with the club hand.
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Nassibs findamentals are even better than garrets so dont be surprised if forcat least a portion of the year garrett sees pass rushing downs mainly. If nassib got stronger he'll eclipse ogbah shortly unless ogbah gets better at some stuff as well. Nassibs run technique was"first class" toward the end of the season. And that was with the club hand.
Nassibs findamentals are even better than garrets so dont be surprised if forcat least a portion of the year garrett sees pass rushing downs mainly. If nassib got stronger he'll eclipse ogbah shortly unless ogbah gets better at some stuff as well. Nassibs run technique was"first class" toward the end of the season. And that was with the club hand.
Hmm.....Im not really seeing that from Nassib.....for the most part, he looked to be fairly easily nullified....club or not.....and showed very little against the run....and....little or no gains as the season progressed....
Ogbah....on the other hand....showed good pursuit.....ability to get off blocks.....and got better as the season progressed......was looking pretty solid the last 1/4, while I was bemoaning the invisibility of Nassib....(one of my preseason favorites and draft dark horses)
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Nassibs findamentals are even better than garrets so dont be surprised if forcat least a portion of the year garrett sees pass rushing downs mainly. If nassib got stronger he'll eclipse ogbah shortly unless ogbah gets better at some stuff as well. Nassibs run technique was"first class" toward the end of the season. And that was with the club hand.
Hmm.....Im not really seeing that from Nassib.....for the most part, he looked to be fairly easily nullified....club or not.....and showed very little against the run....and....little or no gains as the season progressed....
Ogbah....on the other hand....showed good pursuit.....ability to get off blocks.....and got better as the season progressed......was looking pretty solid the last 1/4, while I was bemoaning the invisibility of Nassib....(one of my preseason favorites and draft dark horses)
Hmm.....Im not really seeing that from Nassib.....for the most part, he looked to be fairly easily nullified....club or not.....and showed very little against the run....and....little or no gains as the season progressed....
Ogbah....on the other hand....showed good pursuit.....ability to get off blocks.....and got better as the season progressed......was looking pretty solid the last 1/4, while I was bemoaning the invisibility of Nassib....(one of my preseason favorites and draft dark horses)
It'll be interesting to see how the sophs look Williams' D. I'm not in a hurry to give up on Orchard either (injury last year make this his soph season).
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Hmm.....Im not really seeing that from Nassib.....for the most part, he looked to be fairly easily nullified....club or not.....and showed very little against the run....and....little or no gains as the season progressed....
Ogbah....on the other hand....showed good pursuit.....ability to get off blocks.....and got better as the season progressed......was looking pretty solid the last 1/4, while I was bemoaning the invisibility of Nassib....(one of my preseason favorites and draft dark horses)
It'll be interesting to see how the sophs look Williams' D. I'm not in a hurry to give up on Orchard either (injury last year make this his soph season).
It'll be interesting to see how the sophs look Williams' D. I'm not in a hurry to give up on Orchard either (injury last year make this his soph season).
Right.....one thing not being discussed(at all) is our complete lack of any outside linebackers......our only 3 viable LB's are Kirksey, Davis and Collins.....ALL of whom are better inside players, than outside......and now we are gonna favor 4-3 alignments, which will either bench our better players or force them to play out of position.....Orchard is really suited to playing DE and now that we are a 4-3, it opens the opportunity for him to return to his natural position.......BUT.......but, I think he is also one of our better options to play OLB.....he's not ideal, but still feel he could bring more to the table than Schobert or Johnson....
No good ones are gonna come via draft this year.....so that is a void we desperately need to fill one way or another.....
Based upon our current roster.....Id be looking for Orchard - Collins - Kirksey to be on the field the most.....with Davis Schobert and Johnson having more limited roles....
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Schobert imo opinion is a better 4-3 olb'er, we'll see. As for ogbahs progression his pass rush got better but his run defense sucked the whole season. He made some maddening face palming errors if my mem serves right. While nassibs got better.
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Jason La Canfora reported that Leonard Fournette is in play with the first pick of the draft. I shit you not, I will absolutely EXPLODE if we take a RB with the first pick. It would be the last straw. (not really, but I'll talk tough).
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La Canfora is a hack. That's nothing more than click bait.
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Jason La Canfora reported that Leonard Fournette is in play with the first pick of the draft. I shit you not, I will absolutely EXPLODE if we take a RB with the first pick. It would be the last straw. (not really, but I'll talk tough).
Jason La Canfora reported that Leonard Fournette is in play with the first pick of the draft. I shit you not, I will absolutely EXPLODE if we take a RB with the first pick. It would be the last straw. (not really, but I'll talk tough).
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La Canfora is a hack. That's nothing more than click bait.
Who doesn't like the Browns. Nothing to be gained by falling in line like every mock that has Garrett at #1. Ignore. I could probably dig up articles saying 10 different prospects are in play @ #1.The only real question is what the 49ers will do @ #2.
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