Flugel's Mock Draft on Tennessee Stupid Juice
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Great draft! i think we may add a RB in the 5th or 6th instead of a Langley or Dobbs. But its really splitting hairs
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This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
Well....cant complain about this one. Looks like the whole world is in agreement........
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Ok...understand the logic......But would honestly lose my mind if the Browns did this.....I do believe you are high Fluges....
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
Engrams solid....wouldnt hate the pick, but probably would try for an impact D, considering the WR that was just selected....
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
LOVE this guy and pick.....him, next to Danny, would be awesome.....add Garrett and we're wrecking the league....oops.....
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
Another one of my favorites.....Maye is a nice player and will offer great value to who ever grabs him......
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
He did have a nice game......at 4.1, this would make 3 years in a row that we select SS at #4....Campbell.....Kindred.....Jerome.....one of them has to pan out, right?
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
And why not?.......Im in the group that thinks this is where we should be picking QB....this year......no issues with taking a flyer on a project, as long as it's not 3rd or earlier....
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
Would prefer a CB earlier....but if we cant grab one of the better ones.....then 2 is probably better than 1.....
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
I did the same thing.....think its a smart move tapping the best.....at any position.....
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
cant comment....never heard of him......6th round....it is what it is.....
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
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This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
Well....cant complain about this one. Looks like the whole world is in agreement........
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Ok...understand the logic......But would honestly lose my mind if the Browns did this.....I do believe you are high Fluges....
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
Engrams solid....wouldnt hate the pick, but probably would try for an impact D, considering the WR that was just selected....
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
LOVE this guy and pick.....him, next to Danny, would be awesome.....add Garrett and we're wrecking the league....oops.....
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
Another one of my favorites.....Maye is a nice player and will offer great value to who ever grabs him......
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
He did have a nice game......at 4.1, this would make 3 years in a row that we select SS at #4....Campbell.....Kindred.....Jerome.....one of them has to pan out, right?
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
And why not?.......Im in the group that thinks this is where we should be picking QB....this year......no issues with taking a flyer on a project, as long as it's not 3rd or earlier....
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
Would prefer a CB earlier....but if we cant grab one of the better ones.....then 2 is probably better than 1.....
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
I did the same thing.....think its a smart move tapping the best.....at any position.....
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
cant comment....never heard of him......6th round....it is what it is.....
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
Well....cant complain about this one. Looks like the whole world is in agreement........ - Mud
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Ok...understand the logic......But would honestly lose my mind if the Browns did this.....I do believe you are high Fluges....
Thatta boy Mud! See, I told you I knew what you were thinking. Remember when Bill Belichick's dream TE (Kyle Brady) was drafted by the Jets 9th overall in 1995 just 1 slot before we picked? That was such a steel toe to the throat, BB drafted Ohio State's LB Craig Powell at #10 overall. I had the same feeling only I had about an acre of coffee bean in me. - Mud -
Great draft! i think we may add a RB in the 5th or 6th instead of a Langley or Dobbs. But its really splitting hairs
Great draft! i think we may add a RB in the 5th or 6th instead of a Langley or Dobbs. But its really splitting hairs
Thanks, that's a really good point about RB Caine!
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1. Not enamored with WR @ 12 but could live with OJ.
2. If Miami's is still there @ 2.1 take him in a heartbeat-otherwise this is fine.
3. 2.20 either him or Brantley from Fla. Like 'em both
4. 3.1 Maye is gone by then-who's your backup pick there because it's the logical place to get a good one.
5. Witherspoon would be a steal there - hope we got our eyes open
6. Like the kicker somewhere near the end of 5 top of 6.
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This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
YEP
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Wow. This one caught me by surprise. Taking him seems very high - I like him more in the top of the second round. My question is, I see
Zay Jones as being faster off the los, more explosive out of his cuts..... but really interesting. Ju-Ju....or Zay?
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
I was going for star material in the secondary in the second around. But this is a brilliant pick, seriously. SI has him rated ahead of Njoku sp?
He isn't Howard, but he would be a terrific TE addition to the Browns.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/24/evan-engram-nfl-draft-scouting-report
what is amazing about picking him here, is this, (just read it)
"The only team that really managed to shut him down in 2016 was LSU, using a combination of safety Jamal Adams (a potential top-five pick) and cornerback Tre’Davious White (a potential first-rounder). Otherwise, Engram scorched defenses that were unable to match his athleticism."
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
Crapsies - you lost me here. Carlos is second tier, but in the SECOND ROUND? Very deep in big DL's, don't like this pick, this round.
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
This Marcus Maye is a terrific player. I wouid love it if he was there in the third for the Browns. As always, I wonder if he's gone in the late second.
I would take this kid instead of Watkins, to make sure you get him ....we'll see.
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
Just an oustanding kid that a LOT of teams noticed in the senior bowl. Great player, terrific addition to the locker room, community. He isn't
6' tall, I don't care. He is a PLAYER. Thanks for finding him, Flugels !
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
Man.... I think Dobbs is terrific this late. But he needs some coaching, and is the qb sleeper of this draft. Squealers have their eye on him,
other teams do - this kid is SMART - terrific kid. He is being talked about as being a 3rd, even maybe 2nd round pick. Another kid I would take
instead of Watkins, if I had to choose. If he falls to the fourth round, I will fall out of my chair. Would love to see him in a Browns uniform.
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
I never paid attention - decided to go with higher rated talent at cb, but if these two were here here in this round, it would be very smart.
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
I never thought of a kicker, either. I like it.
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
I can see this pick, but at OG, and I don't know that the Browns will find anybody who will be a RT here. I'd rather take a chance on a small school
rb.... He did pretty good in the East West Shrine game....(from Bleacherreports)
Florida Atlantic defensive end Trey Hendrickson claimed The E. Jack Spaulding Award for Most Outstanding Defensive Player. Throughout the practice week, the 6'4", 265-pound pass-rusher developed into the best defender on the field. His performance during the game proved to be no different.
Hendrickson struggled early against Oklahoma State offensive tackle Victor Salako, but the defensive end's quick first step and consistent motor eventually led to him making multiple plays, including a strip-sack.
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Really nice job for the most partsies, but I still like mine better - but I'm biased. lol
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This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
YEP
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Wow. This one caught me by surprise. Taking him seems very high - I like him more in the top of the second round. My question is, I see
Zay Jones as being faster off the los, more explosive out of his cuts..... but really interesting. Ju-Ju....or Zay?
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
I was going for star material in the secondary in the second around. But this is a brilliant pick, seriously. SI has him rated ahead of Njoku sp?
He isn't Howard, but he would be a terrific TE addition to the Browns.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/24/evan-engram-nfl-draft-scouting-report
what is amazing about picking him here, is this, (just read it)
"The only team that really managed to shut him down in 2016 was LSU, using a combination of safety Jamal Adams (a potential top-five pick) and cornerback Tre’Davious White (a potential first-rounder). Otherwise, Engram scorched defenses that were unable to match his athleticism."
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
Crapsies - you lost me here. Carlos is second tier, but in the SECOND ROUND? Very deep in big DL's, don't like this pick, this round.
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
This Marcus Maye is a terrific player. I wouid love it if he was there in the third for the Browns. As always, I wonder if he's gone in the late second.
I would take this kid instead of Watkins, to make sure you get him ....we'll see.
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
Just an oustanding kid that a LOT of teams noticed in the senior bowl. Great player, terrific addition to the locker room, community. He isn't
6' tall, I don't care. He is a PLAYER. Thanks for finding him, Flugels !
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
Man.... I think Dobbs is terrific this late. But he needs some coaching, and is the qb sleeper of this draft. Squealers have their eye on him,
other teams do - this kid is SMART - terrific kid. He is being talked about as being a 3rd, even maybe 2nd round pick. Another kid I would take
instead of Watkins, if I had to choose. If he falls to the fourth round, I will fall out of my chair. Would love to see him in a Browns uniform.
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
I never paid attention - decided to go with higher rated talent at cb, but if these two were here here in this round, it would be very smart.
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
I never thought of a kicker, either. I like it.
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
I can see this pick, but at OG, and I don't know that the Browns will find anybody who will be a RT here. I'd rather take a chance on a small school
rb.... He did pretty good in the East West Shrine game....(from Bleacherreports)
Florida Atlantic defensive end Trey Hendrickson claimed The E. Jack Spaulding Award for Most Outstanding Defensive Player. Throughout the practice week, the 6'4", 265-pound pass-rusher developed into the best defender on the field. His performance during the game proved to be no different.
Hendrickson struggled early against Oklahoma State offensive tackle Victor Salako, but the defensive end's quick first step and consistent motor eventually led to him making multiple plays, including a strip-sack.
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
Really nice job for the most partsies, but I still like mine better - but I'm biased. lol
This ain't the Big Sexy I hoped it would be. You're going to see a reach or 2 or 3 that a very deep draft at secondary positions permitted me to do. I'm also of the belief that the spinal column of a secondary resides at the 2 Safety positions. Safety first. A quality corner like Richard Sherman was found in round 5 while a Pro Bowl corner like Chris Harris was an undrafted FA. We've also seen some UFA Corners crack our starting line-up in recent years.
1.0 DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M - His performance even through injury the last 3 years is elite and his fitness at Indy and at the workouts was ideal. Gregg Williams' has said he's paid to light fannies in case there's any worry about the consistency of his motor. If he's everything he's supposed to be - we'll have a very happy and productive secondary.
YEP
1-12. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster, USC - Since my dream pick is OJ Howard, the football gods will make sure he's already drafted before #12. I know what you're thinking - are you high Flugel? No, my last 2 brain cells are just in a messy divorce. My intrigue here is the 6-2 220 lb size that a QB named Cody Kessler tapped extremely well at USC in 2015. It would be nice to get Cody someone he trusts to run precise routes make the right adjustments when necessary. The rankings on this kid vary quite a bit in the 3 Draft Guides I bought.
Wow. This one caught me by surprise. Taking him seems very high - I like him more in the top of the second round. My question is, I see
Zay Jones as being faster off the los, more explosive out of his cuts..... but really interesting. Ju-Ju....or Zay?
2-1. TE Evansville Engram, Ole Miss - Runs better routes than any WR we have while Gary Barnidge's production went sky diving last year. I firmly believe Seth DeValve will be our next Slot Receiver matching up favorably against many undersized 3rd corners so this pick won't be at the expense of DeValve IMO. Lindy's Draft Guide says Engram's NFL comparison is Jordan Reed.
I was going for star material in the secondary in the second around. But this is a brilliant pick, seriously. SI has him rated ahead of Njoku sp?
He isn't Howard, but he would be a terrific TE addition to the Browns.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/02/24/evan-engram-nfl-draft-scouting-report
what is amazing about picking him here, is this, (just read it)
"The only team that really managed to shut him down in 2016 was LSU, using a combination of safety Jamal Adams (a potential top-five pick) and cornerback Tre’Davious White (a potential first-rounder). Otherwise, Engram scorched defenses that were unable to match his athleticism."
2-20. DT Carlos Watkins, Clemson - 2 year starter on a good defense that shutout Ohio State. This Big FUGLY is 6-3 312 lbs. On game day he can't stop snacking between snacks in the opponents' backfield. He had 13 TFLs and 10 sacks in 2016. Meatball on spaghetti, he looks good in an orange helmet.
Crapsies - you lost me here. Carlos is second tier, but in the SECOND ROUND? Very deep in big DL's, don't like this pick, this round.
3-1. FS Marcus Maye, Florida - This is a prime example of how ecstatic I am that this draft is deep at Safety. 4 year starter on a defense that made 2 consecutive SEC Championship games. He's split time as a Safety, Boundary Corner and Slot Corner. Our secondary could use a guy with this kind of flexibility considering how much of the time we'll be in nickle/dime packages.
This Marcus Maye is a terrific player. I wouid love it if he was there in the third for the Browns. As always, I wonder if he's gone in the late second.
I would take this kid instead of Watkins, to make sure you get him ....we'll see.
4-1. SS Lorenzo Jerome, St Francis PA - Nobody on defense got more WOWs out of me at the Senior Bowl. If you watched the game - you know what I'm talking about. Lindy's Draft Guide has him as the Prototype for ball skills saying "he had 18 INTs in college and delivered sparkling NFLPA Collegiate Bowl and Senior Bowl showings, intercepting a combined 4 passes. I'll add that he sniffed out a reverse (beat the pulling guard) to make his collision at the handoff to jar the ball loose and recover it while the rest of his defensive teammates seemed to be fooled by play-action.
Just an oustanding kid that a LOT of teams noticed in the senior bowl. Great player, terrific addition to the locker room, community. He isn't
6' tall, I don't care. He is a PLAYER. Thanks for finding him, Flugels !
5-1. QB Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee - Living here in TN, he got significantly better each year. He's a 4.0 student that was good enough at QB to get a guy like Nathan Peterman to feel like his only chance to start was to transfer to Pitt (where he is now a 3rd-4th round prospect).
Man.... I think Dobbs is terrific this late. But he needs some coaching, and is the qb sleeper of this draft. Squealers have their eye on him,
other teams do - this kid is SMART - terrific kid. He is being talked about as being a 3rd, even maybe 2nd round pick. Another kid I would take
instead of Watkins, if I had to choose. If he falls to the fourth round, I will fall out of my chair. Would love to see him in a Browns uniform.
5.31 CB Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado - Love the 6-2 height going with his 195 lbs. He played opposite to Chidobe Awuzie where he led the nation with 22 pass break-ups (which also tied a school record). Isn't this the same round where a similar built Richard Sherman was drafted in?
5.37 CB Brandon Langley, Lamar - A 6-0 199 lb prospect that had a good week of practice and played well at the Senior Bowl.
I never paid attention - decided to go with higher rated talent at cb, but if these two were here here in this round, it would be very smart.
6.1 PK Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State - Lou Groza Award Winner and holds FBS career best of 96 FGs.
I never thought of a kicker, either. I like it.
6.4 OT Victor Salako, Oklahoma State - He started for 2 years at UAB at Left Tackle until UAB dropped the football program. Then, he transferred to Oklahoma State where he started at Left Tackle for 2 years with a 6-5 333 lb frame. Pro Football Weekly's Draft Guide projects him as a RT or OG.
I can see this pick, but at OG, and I don't know that the Browns will find anybody who will be a RT here. I'd rather take a chance on a small school
rb.... He did pretty good in the East West Shrine game....(from Bleacherreports)
Florida Atlantic defensive end Trey Hendrickson claimed The E. Jack Spaulding Award for Most Outstanding Defensive Player. Throughout the practice week, the 6'4", 265-pound pass-rusher developed into the best defender on the field. His performance during the game proved to be no different.
Hendrickson struggled early against Oklahoma State offensive tackle Victor Salako, but the defensive end's quick first step and consistent motor eventually led to him making multiple plays, including a strip-sack.
If you have any feedback good or bad - run it. Thanks folks!
Really nice job for the most partsies, but I still like mine better - but I'm biased. lol
HA! Thanks for the feedback. 1 minor clarification, Victor Salako is projected to be a RT and possibly an OG. He's a 4 year starter with most/all of his experience on the left side. I didn't do myself any favors at #12 especially not putting in an alternative or 2.
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Don't like that WR at 12
Do like Dobbs late
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Excepting JuJu "way-too-many-names" Smith-Schuster and Engram I like it...
JuJu at 12 is a huge reach. Agree with the above mentioned R2 grade on him. And any Kess-based elevation of him is tenuously placed at best.
Engram? Well... I'm just tired of one-dimensional TEs. And if we truly aspire to be a power run team, then so should we all be.
I do like Maye... was all over him before I went and fell in love with Williams. Now I think of Maye as a po'man's Williams, who most think is a po'man's Baker (I disagree, but mine is a minority view), who everyone thinks is a po'man's Hooker... and I have a three-po'man limit.
I like Watkins just fine, but I still don't see DT need and he's in Williams' spot.
No big issues with Dobbs... just issue him a helmet with a tinted visor... and make him keep it on...
Witherspoon... not impressed, but not many Day 3 CBs are going to impress.
Langley... I don't see him making it this low, but I do like the player.
PK... don't care...
OT... don't know him...
Nice effort overall... and you nailed the most important pick...
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Not too shabby. Just got done watching 3 of Dobbs' games and I gotta say, I don't see him lasting until rd 5. I will say this though, why spend a 1st rounder on Watson when you could spend a 3rd on Dobbs? Honestly, I think I'd rather have Dobbs than Watson straight up. Better arm, makes progressions/reads the entire field and had a LOT less help than Watson. It feels like any concern one would have with Dobbs, durability as a running QB, protecting the ball, etc. is also a concern with Watson.
Even though I couldn't see JuJu going at 12, or 22, you've already taken enough flak for that one.
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Thanks for all the feedback folks. There were a lot of good ideas and suggestions. The dream start of Myles Garrett at #1 and OJ Howard at #12 always sounded too good to be true. If I did my mock 2-3 weeks ago, I still would have had Howard at 12.
Unfortunately, I had to be realistic that a guy like Sean Payton would love to get another version of Jimmy Graham - only this one can block and set the edge like a traditional TE. He can line up virtually anywhere and be a favorable match-up with an ideal catch radius with 4.5 speed. The Saints draft at #11 in case Buffalo, NYJ, Chicago, Jax and TN decide they don't want/need this guy. Aside from that, Antonio Gates isn't getting any younger with the Chargers at #7.
Speaking of pick #12, let's hope the Browns don't choke like I did. The combined skills of JuJu and Engram (at picks 12 and 33) still can't perform as many things/roles as well as Howard. My favorite video of him was in the first national championship matchup vrs Clemson where he had over 200 yards receiving on 5 receptions (3 of those were over 50 yards) and 2 TDs. He also had a nice block outside where he shielded off the inside of the only defender that could have made the tackle springing Henry for about a 50 yard TD. Here's a link of film of that matchup I've shared a couple times that people might not have seen yet. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/o-j-howard-vs-clemson-2015/
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
No tight end at #12, it's not a position that makes an immediate impact and that's what first rounders should be
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Good post Flugel, I like it!
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No tight end at #12, it's not a position that makes an immediate impact and that's what first rounders should be
No tight end at #12, it's not a position that makes an immediate impact and that's what first rounders should be
I don't know. Seems that he would give serious life to the Browns' offense from the first exhibition game.
I'm looking for Hollywood HIggins to rock. Add Ju Ju or Zay Jones, with Howard, or Engram...
and the Browns would give any qb the opportunity to make great things happen.
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I am really liking the Dobbs pick more and more. Chances are, he won't be there at all in the fifth. Maybe ...
in the top of the fourth.
Josh Dobbs on learning NFL playbook: “My senior year I was taking astronautics, propulsion and an aerodynamics class all on the same day, at the same time as football season when I was leading an SEC team. I think I can handle it.” (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com)
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Thanks for all the feedback folks. There were a lot of good ideas and suggestions. The dream start of Myles Garrett at #1 and OJ Howard at #12 always sounded too good to be true. If I did my mock 2-3 weeks ago, I still would have had Howard at 12.
Unfortunately, I had to be realistic that a guy like Sean Payton would love to get another version of Jimmy Graham - only this one can block and set the edge like a traditional TE. He can line up virtually anywhere and be a favorable match-up with an ideal catch radius with 4.5 speed. The Saints draft at #11 in case Buffalo, NYJ, Chicago, Jax and TN decide they don't want/need this guy. Aside from that, Antonio Gates isn't getting any younger with the Chargers at #7.
Speaking of pick #12, let's hope the Browns don't choke like I did. The combined skills of JuJu and Engram (at picks 12 and 33) still can't perform as many things/roles as well as Howard. My favorite video of him was in the first national championship matchup vrs Clemson where he had over 200 yards receiving on 5 receptions (3 of those were over 50 yards) and 2 TDs. He also had a nice block outside where he shielded off the inside of the only defender that could have made the tackle springing Henry for about a 50 yard TD. Here's a link of film of that matchup I've shared a couple times that people might not have seen yet. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/o-j-howard-vs-clemson-2015/
The Saints draft at #11 in case Buffalo, NYJ, Chicago, Jax and TN decide they don't want/need this guy. Aside from that, Antonio Gates isn't getting any younger with the Chargers at #7.
Good stuff Flug..Teams that show a need at TE ahead of our 12..Bears,Jags,Jets,Saints..Greg Olsen in Carolina is now 32. Cinn. Eifert may never be the same. When Howard comes off board.Somebody may take a little reach on Jake Butt late 2nd,(my hope 3.1) to sit behind a vet TE a season. I hope it's Barney not Olsen. Butt could school Barney on how to block 🥷.I like Dobbs but at times he tries to over aim the ball in..He's fixable,with a good release, with no wide up..
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I am really liking the Dobbs pick more and more. Chances are, he won't be there at all in the fifth. Maybe ...
in the top of the fourth.
Josh Dobbs on learning NFL playbook: “My senior year I was taking astronautics, propulsion and an aerodynamics class all on the same day, at the same time as football season when I was leading an SEC team. I think I can handle it.” (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com)
I am really liking the Dobbs pick more and more. Chances are, he won't be there at all in the fifth. Maybe ...
in the top of the fourth.
Josh Dobbs on learning NFL playbook: “My senior year I was taking astronautics, propulsion and an aerodynamics class all on the same day, at the same time as football season when I was leading an SEC team. I think I can handle it.” (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com)
Just remember it was the one-legged man who pressured him into the game ending interception in OT. He will have plenty of those same opportunities with the Browns. Not a take even if he is Sushi smart.
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