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  • I've been there and I have been to Shiloh where my great, great uncle was shot thru both legs as a member of the 8th Texas Rangers Cav unit and left for dead. He was taken to the first ever MASH unit on the battlefield and his life was saved by Union surgeons without removing legs since the bullet did not hit bone. He was eventually exchanged at Vicksburg and made his way back to Austin. Interesting stuff huh?

    http://npplan.com/parks-by-state/tennessee/shiloh-national-military-park-park-at-a-glance/shiloh-national-military-park-battlefield-tours/shiloh-national-military-park-shiloh-battlefield-tour-park-version/shiloh-national-military-park-nps-tour-stop-14-field-hospital/

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yep -Gip even my old ex girlfriend from Toledo lives in Dallas now. Just another carpetbagger. 😆

    Of course I got captured by a Rhode Islander over 47 years ago. She lets me play here from my cell. 😛

    Do you consider Dallas "the south"? I guess, maybe, since it is in Texas...which was a "Confederate" state. Though it is not "south" like Houston and San Antone.

    (fyi, I think I told you...my brother used to live in Kerrville....before JMZ was even born, and my daughter lives in SA)

    @the-gipper said:

    Do you consider Dallas "the south"? I guess, maybe, since it is in Texas...which was a "Confederate" state. Though it is not "south" like Houston and San Antone.

    (fyi, I think I told you...my brother used to live in Kerrville....before JMZ was even born, and my daughter lives in SA)

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Do you consider Dallas "the south"? I guess, maybe, since it is in Texas...which was a "Confederate" state. Though it is not "south" like Houston and San Antone.

    (fyi, I think I told you...my brother used to live in Kerrville....before JMZ was even born, and my daughter lives in SA)

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    @wargograw said:

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    More like the sphincter of the south. No, more like the navel. It is not fucked up, except perhaps traffic. Nothing wrong, just nothing appealing about Dallas/Ft. Worth. Houston either. San Antonio and Austin much more interesting towns.

    I did a recent tour of towns in Texas.

    El Paso a bit "third world".

    Odessa/Midland/Lubbock a bit blah.

    Parts of Amarillo are like a throw back to the 40s/50s with old route 66 going through there. Kinda cool in a retro sense.

    Abilene is a "pretty little town". Perhaps not the prettiest I have ever seen, but nice.

    Waco is not as Whacko as the name implies. Kind of middle of the road.

    Galveston was kind of cool, the parts I saw of it. Though for the 2 days I was there this past winter break it was completely shrouded in fog the whole time.

    See my "Gipper's Guide to America" thread in the Barbershop for a ranking I have done of North American towns.

  • @wargograw said:

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    More like the sphincter of the south. No, more like the navel. It is not fucked up, except perhaps traffic. Nothing wrong, just nothing appealing about Dallas/Ft. Worth. Houston either. San Antonio and Austin much more interesting towns.

    I did a recent tour of towns in Texas.

    El Paso a bit "third world".

    Odessa/Midland/Lubbock a bit blah.

    Parts of Amarillo are like a throw back to the 40s/50s with old route 66 going through there. Kinda cool in a retro sense.

    Abilene is a "pretty little town". Perhaps not the prettiest I have ever seen, but nice.

    Waco is not as Whacko as the name implies. Kind of middle of the road.

    Galveston was kind of cool, the parts I saw of it. Though for the 2 days I was there this past winter break it was completely shrouded in fog the whole time.

    See my "Gipper's Guide to America" thread in the Barbershop for a ranking I have done of North American towns.

    @the-gipper said:

    More like the sphincter of the south. No, more like the navel. It is not fucked up, except perhaps traffic. Nothing wrong, just nothing appealing about Dallas/Ft. Worth. Houston either. San Antonio and Austin much more interesting towns.

    I did a recent tour of towns in Texas.

    El Paso a bit "third world".

    Odessa/Midland/Lubbock a bit blah.

    Parts of Amarillo are like a throw back to the 40s/50s with old route 66 going through there. Kinda cool in a retro sense.

    Abilene is a "pretty little town". Perhaps not the prettiest I have ever seen, but nice.

    Waco is not as Whacko as the name implies. Kind of middle of the road.

    Galveston was kind of cool, the parts I saw of it. Though for the 2 days I was there this past winter break it was completely shrouded in fog the whole time.

    See my "Gipper's Guide to America" thread in the Barbershop for a ranking I have done of North American towns.

    Traffic in Dallas is great compared to Austin and Houston. Great city.

  • I've been there and I have been to Shiloh where my great, great uncle was shot thru both legs as a member of the 8th Texas Rangers Cav unit and left for dead. He was taken to the first ever MASH unit on the battlefield and his life was saved by Union surgeons without removing legs since the bullet did not hit bone. He was eventually exchanged at Vicksburg and made his way back to Austin. Interesting stuff huh?

    http://npplan.com/parks-by-state/tennessee/shiloh-national-military-park-park-at-a-glance/shiloh-national-military-park-battlefield-tours/shiloh-national-military-park-shiloh-battlefield-tour-park-version/shiloh-national-military-park-nps-tour-stop-14-field-hospital/

    @texasag1969 said:

    I've been there and I have been to Shiloh where my great, great uncle was shot thru both legs as a member of the 8th Texas Rangers Cav unit and left for dead. He was taken to the first ever MASH unit on the battlefield and his life was saved by Union surgeons without removing legs since the bullet did not hit bone. He was eventually exchanged at Vicksburg and made his way back to Austin. Interesting stuff huh?

    http://npplan.com/parks-by-state/tennessee/shiloh-national-military-park-park-at-a-glance/shiloh-national-military-park-battlefield-tours/shiloh-national-military-park-shiloh-battlefield-tour-park-version/shiloh-national-military-park-nps-tour-stop-14-field-hospital/

    Yes, it is...

    Can't explain it but get a very weird vibe off of some Civil War battlefields. Gettysberg, twice as a kid and again as an adult, but they were nothing compared to two I had driving through Manasas Battlefield Park going Dulles to DC and back on a business trip. And on the way to DC I'd never noticed I was driving by it.

    Maybe the Buddists are onto something???

    @wargograw said:

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    Don't know about that "crown jewel thing (*cough* Charleston, SC *cough*), but Dallas is a helluva lot more "southern" than Houston.

    Both were barely 30-yo when the Civil War broke out.

  • @the-gipper said:

    More like the sphincter of the south. No, more like the navel. It is not fucked up, except perhaps traffic. Nothing wrong, just nothing appealing about Dallas/Ft. Worth. Houston either. San Antonio and Austin much more interesting towns.

    I did a recent tour of towns in Texas.

    El Paso a bit "third world".

    Odessa/Midland/Lubbock a bit blah.

    Parts of Amarillo are like a throw back to the 40s/50s with old route 66 going through there. Kinda cool in a retro sense.

    Abilene is a "pretty little town". Perhaps not the prettiest I have ever seen, but nice.

    Waco is not as Whacko as the name implies. Kind of middle of the road.

    Galveston was kind of cool, the parts I saw of it. Though for the 2 days I was there this past winter break it was completely shrouded in fog the whole time.

    See my "Gipper's Guide to America" thread in the Barbershop for a ranking I have done of North American towns.

    Traffic in Dallas is great compared to Austin and Houston. Great city.

    @wargograw said:

    Traffic in Dallas is great compared to Austin and Houston. Great city.

    You may be right. Austin has become awful. And I suspect the same about Houston, though the last couple of times I went through there I was able to avoid rush hour, so I made it through pretty well both times with no tie-ups. I just see very little in Dallas that is of any real interest. The most interesting place is the assassination location, and boy, if that is the best thing you got going for you...well, that kind of tells it all.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I've been there and I have been to Shiloh where my great, great uncle was shot thru both legs as a member of the 8th Texas Rangers Cav unit and left for dead. He was taken to the first ever MASH unit on the battlefield and his life was saved by Union surgeons without removing legs since the bullet did not hit bone. He was eventually exchanged at Vicksburg and made his way back to Austin. Interesting stuff huh?

    http://npplan.com/parks-by-state/tennessee/shiloh-national-military-park-park-at-a-glance/shiloh-national-military-park-battlefield-tours/shiloh-national-military-park-shiloh-battlefield-tour-park-version/shiloh-national-military-park-nps-tour-stop-14-field-hospital/

    Yes, it is...

    Can't explain it but get a very weird vibe off of some Civil War battlefields. Gettysberg, twice as a kid and again as an adult, but they were nothing compared to two I had driving through Manasas Battlefield Park going Dulles to DC and back on a business trip. And on the way to DC I'd never noticed I was driving by it.

    Maybe the Buddists are onto something???

    @wargograw said:

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    Don't know about that "crown jewel thing (*cough* Charleston, SC *cough*), but Dallas is a helluva lot more "southern" than Houston.

    Both were barely 30-yo when the Civil War broke out.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yes, it is...

    Can't explain it but get a very weird vibe off of some Civil War battlefields. Gettysberg, twice as a kid and again as an adult, but they were nothing compared to two I had driving through Manasas Battlefield Park going Dulles to DC and back on a business trip. And on the way to DC I'd never noticed I was driving by it.

    Maybe the Buddists are onto something???

    Don't know about that "crown jewel thing (*cough* Charleston, SC *cough*), but Dallas is a helluva lot more "southern" than Houston.

    Both were barely 30-yo when the Civil War broke out.

    My best friend proposed to his wife in Charleston. They are only mid-20's but are set on retiring there lol.

    I'm not sure that I'd say Dallas is more southern than Houston. Houston brings some of the same rich oilman in cowboy boots-type guys and adds the diversity and culture you see in other parts of the south. It's an uncommon opinion, but I like both.

  • Best thing in DFW is actually the Kimbell Museum in Ft. Worth. They bring in world class artworks on a regular basis.

  • @wargograw said:

    Traffic in Dallas is great compared to Austin and Houston. Great city.

    You may be right. Austin has become awful. And I suspect the same about Houston, though the last couple of times I went through there I was able to avoid rush hour, so I made it through pretty well both times with no tie-ups. I just see very little in Dallas that is of any real interest. The most interesting place is the assassination location, and boy, if that is the best thing you got going for you...well, that kind of tells it all.

    @the-gipper said:

    You may be right. Austin has become awful. And I suspect the same about Houston, though the last couple of times I went through there I was able to avoid rush hour, so I made it through pretty well both times with no tie-ups. I just see very little in Dallas that is of any real interest. The most interesting place is the assassination location, and boy, if that is the best thing you got going for you...well, that kind of tells it all.

    Houston traffic is bad but at least they're generally on top of infrastructure development. Austin is, pretty much as a rule, about 10 years behind.

  • Gotta make some moves man, maneuver around its Gotta Be Lattimore,Hooker,Conely IMO..

    Then we'd be sitting pretty. 🥷

  • Best thing in DFW is actually the Kimbell Museum in Ft. Worth. They bring in world class artworks on a regular basis.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Best thing in DFW is actually the Kimbell Museum in Ft. Worth. They bring in world class artworks on a regular basis.

    Haven't been there, it the modern art museum of Fort Worth was a lot of fun. That giant cone made out of huge slabs of iron is pretty surreal.

  • How long until Arlington demands equal billing???

    DAFW or Destruction!

    I've spent a lot more time in Houston, lived there from '74 - '07 It is cosmopolitan as hell. Could be that I've simply not spent enough time in Dallas to overcome my stereotypical bias.

    I friggin love Austin. It still has "charm"... "quaintness". If you learn the back-ways within the city, traffic can be tolerable. But if you are commuting from one of the neighboring bedroom communities, then you are basically screwed.

    My college bud retired from Wisconsin to Georgetown, TX... NNE of Austin proper. Original intent was to be near enough to drive in for dinners, shows, etc., but traffic has all but killed that idea.

  • @the-gipper said:

    You may be right. Austin has become awful. And I suspect the same about Houston, though the last couple of times I went through there I was able to avoid rush hour, so I made it through pretty well both times with no tie-ups. I just see very little in Dallas that is of any real interest. The most interesting place is the assassination location, and boy, if that is the best thing you got going for you...well, that kind of tells it all.

    Houston traffic is bad but at least they're generally on top of infrastructure development. Austin is, pretty much as a rule, about 10 years behind.

    @wargograw said:

    Houston traffic is bad but at least they're generally on top of infrastructure development. Austin is, pretty much as a rule, about 10 years behind.

    Yep, been caught in major tie ups on I-35...and that was not even at rush hour. I scrambled out of there to get to SA and took a highway west of there, even if it meant having to out of my way. Went down 281 instead.

  • How long until Arlington demands equal billing???

    DAFW or Destruction!

    I've spent a lot more time in Houston, lived there from '74 - '07 It is cosmopolitan as hell. Could be that I've simply not spent enough time in Dallas to overcome my stereotypical bias.

    I friggin love Austin. It still has "charm"... "quaintness". If you learn the back-ways within the city, traffic can be tolerable. But if you are commuting from one of the neighboring bedroom communities, then you are basically screwed.

    My college bud retired from Wisconsin to Georgetown, TX... NNE of Austin proper. Original intent was to be near enough to drive in for dinners, shows, etc., but traffic has all but killed that idea.

    @tour2ma said:

    How long until Arlington demands equal billing???

    DAFW or Destruction!

    I've spent a lot more time in Houston, lived there from '74 - '07 It is cosmopolitan as hell. Could be that I've simply not spent enough time in Dallas to overcome my stereotypical bias.

    I friggin love Austin. It still has "charm"... "quaintness". If you learn the back-ways within the city, traffic can be tolerable. But if you are commuting from one of the neighboring bedroom communities, then you are basically screwed.

    My college bud retired from Wisconsin to Georgetown, TX... NNE of Austin proper. Original intent was to be near enough to drive in for dinners, shows, etc., but traffic has all but killed that idea.

    So were you in Georgetown on that recent trip? Gumbo's on the square, Wildfire just off the square and Dos Salsas just a few blocks over on University. All excellent eateries.

  • @tour2ma said:

    How long until Arlington demands equal billing???

    DAFW or Destruction!

    I've spent a lot more time in Houston, lived there from '74 - '07 It is cosmopolitan as hell. Could be that I've simply not spent enough time in Dallas to overcome my stereotypical bias.

    I friggin love Austin. It still has "charm"... "quaintness". If you learn the back-ways within the city, traffic can be tolerable. But if you are commuting from one of the neighboring bedroom communities, then you are basically screwed.

    My college bud retired from Wisconsin to Georgetown, TX... NNE of Austin proper. Original intent was to be near enough to drive in for dinners, shows, etc., but traffic has all but killed that idea.

    So were you in Georgetown on that recent trip? Gumbo's on the square, Wildfire just off the square and Dos Salsas just a few blocks over on University. All excellent eateries.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So were you in Georgetown on that recent trip? Gumbo's on the square, Wildfire just off the square and Dos Salsas just a few blocks over on University. All excellent eateries.

    No... not that time. My bud came into Austin for the evening. Will see if he knows the above next trip...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    So were you in Georgetown on that recent trip? Gumbo's on the square, Wildfire just off the square and Dos Salsas just a few blocks over on University. All excellent eateries.

    No... not that time. My bud came into Austin for the evening. Will see if he knows the above next trip...

    @tour2ma said:

    No... not that time. My bud came into Austin for the evening. Will see if he knows the above next trip...

    Chicken fried steak at Monument Cafe too. Good and fattening! 😁

  • Love me some Chicken Fried Steak...

    Best I've had is at the Tip Top Cafe in San Anton...

    Runner up: Seabrook Classic Cafe in Seabrook, TX... of course...

    Apparently you have to be a Cafe to serve really great CFS...

  • How do you guys remember all these meals and where you had them??

    Impressive !

  • How do you guys remember all these meals and where you had them??

    Impressive !

    @londonbrown said:

    How do you guys remember all these meals and where you had them??

    Impressive !

    I remember a few memorable meals. The BEST steak I ever had was at a place called The Texas Club in Ruidoso New Mex. I remember that.

    Just last week I had some great Kansas City BBQ at Joe's BBQ.

    I once ate at the Tavern on the Green in Central Park. (don't remember the meal so much...just the location)

    I also remember the worst meal I ever had, and that happened 43 years ago. I don't recall the restaurant's name,...it was in Bar Harbor, Maine, but I had a huge plate of steamed clams....and then spent two days in the hospital afterwards attached to all kinds of IVs.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I've been there and I have been to Shiloh where my great, great uncle was shot thru both legs as a member of the 8th Texas Rangers Cav unit and left for dead. He was taken to the first ever MASH unit on the battlefield and his life was saved by Union surgeons without removing legs since the bullet did not hit bone. He was eventually exchanged at Vicksburg and made his way back to Austin. Interesting stuff huh?

    http://npplan.com/parks-by-state/tennessee/shiloh-national-military-park-park-at-a-glance/shiloh-national-military-park-battlefield-tours/shiloh-national-military-park-shiloh-battlefield-tour-park-version/shiloh-national-military-park-nps-tour-stop-14-field-hospital/

    Yes, it is...

    Can't explain it but get a very weird vibe off of some Civil War battlefields. Gettysberg, twice as a kid and again as an adult, but they were nothing compared to two I had driving through Manasas Battlefield Park going Dulles to DC and back on a business trip. And on the way to DC I'd never noticed I was driving by it.

    Maybe the Buddists are onto something???

    @wargograw said:

    Dallas is absolutely the south. The crown jewel of it in fact.

    Don't know about that "crown jewel thing (*cough* Charleston, SC *cough*), but Dallas is a helluva lot more "southern" than Houston.

    Both were barely 30-yo when the Civil War broke out.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yes, it is...

    Can't explain it but get a very weird vibe off of some Civil War battlefields. Gettysberg, twice as a kid and again as an adult, but they were nothing compared to two I had driving through Manasas Battlefield Park going Dulles to DC and back on a business trip. And on the way to DC I'd never noticed I was driving by it.

    Maybe the Buddists are onto something???

    Don't know about that "crown jewel thing (*cough* Charleston, SC *cough*), but Dallas is a helluva lot more "southern" than Houston.

    Both were barely 30-yo when the Civil War broke out.

    Savannah perhaps more than Charleston. Both nice, charming.