Actual Browns Thread
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The guy on defense I'm most excited about is Nate Orchard. He had a nasty high-ankle sprain last year, and we really didn't get to see him play much. He could be a real wild card for us, and I really hope he's able to provide a pass rushing spark for our anemic defense.
The offensive guy is Corey Coleman. There's been a few recent articles which indicate Hue Jackson expects Corey to "be the guy" this year, and while that's a lot of pressure, it's only natural when a team picks you in the first round. If he's able to "make the jump", it could really open things up for players like Britt, Duke, Devalve/Barnidge, and the running game.
At this time, I think Cody Kessler is going to be our day 1 starter, and I'm actually ok with it. I'm ok with it because I expect all rookies to improve from their first year, and QB's can sometimes make the biggest leaps. If that happens, we'll be far from a pushover.
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OK... I'll play...
A. Quarterbacks. We have Brock Osweiler, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan... First question: who starts.....and what does each bring to help winning games? 2d question: do we need to replace/enhance this position?
Priority: High
Draft: Weak with possible depth
Clearly the area of the greatest need based upon 2016. Need makes the position a high priority... a level that is unfortunately not matched by the talent available.
If Kessler ups his game, if he trusts his reads and his arm to hit the windows he sees, then he might become a serviceable bridge-strarter to a QB not yet on the roster.
The Brockweiler has all the above issues and more, i.e., he doesn't make reads and lacks Kess' pocket presence. Might he grow? I'm not holding my breath.
Hogan? If Brock isn't gone, then he will be. Either way, at minimum a Day Two or Three prospect will be added this draft... a value "shot", IF one of the "top prospects" does not fall into our lap on Day 1.
While I still like Kelly to kick off Day 3, his recent wrist/hand surgery and it's 3-month recovery is another hit to his draft stock. A later Round 5 pickmay get him and were he to start off on the PUP list, it would not be the worst thing for him... or us.
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How absolutely ironic the BROWNS are sitting on #1 and #12 and no real save the day QBs are out there! The complete opposite of a 1983 draft or most any half decent year.
My advice is save as much ammunition for next year where there seems to be better options. Build a tremendous defense and drop in the QB. But then that is just a formula that works so the Browns are likely to do the opposite. Just hop in the running fucking car dammit!
My advice is save as much ammunition for next year where there seems to be better options. Build a tremendous defense and drop in the QB. But then that is just a formula that works so the Browns are likely to do the opposite. Just hop in the running fucking car dammit!
Again, lets talk here about what we have, not what we don't have or conjecture on what we could have. There are a zillion other threads for that.
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My advice is save as much ammunition for next year where there seems to be better options. Build a tremendous defense and drop in the QB. But then that is just a formula that works so the Browns are likely to do the opposite. Just hop in the running fucking car dammit!
On NFL Live yesterday the day's crew were debating the rumored MG-Trubs "decision". The two ex-NFL'ers asked McShay about the QB class of 2018.
Todd said there were three with top-five potential, the UCLA kid, Rosen, a kid whose name and school I did not catch and an emerging kid from Wyoming, Josh Allen.
On NFL Live yesterday the day's crew were debating the rumored MG-Trubs "decision". The two ex-NFL'ers asked McShay about the QB class of 2018.
Todd said there were three with top-five potential, the UCLA kid, Rosen, a kid whose name and school I did not catch and an emerging kid from Wyoming, Josh Allen.
Sam Darnold- USC Walter football has him going #1 overall.
Next years safety class will be even stronger than this year's if you can believe that. Multiple first round level players at that position.
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On NFL Live yesterday the day's crew were debating the rumored MG-Trubs "decision". The two ex-NFL'ers asked McShay about the QB class of 2018.
Todd said there were three with top-five potential, the UCLA kid, Rosen, a kid whose name and school I did not catch and an emerging kid from Wyoming, Josh Allen.
Sam Darnold- USC Walter football has him going #1 overall.
Next years safety class will be even stronger than this year's if you can believe that. Multiple first round level players at that position.
Sam Darnold- USC Walter football has him going #1 overall.
When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
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Desmond Bryant can fill a big need if he is as well as before his injury. Danny needs a running mate in the middle of the 4-3.
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Desmond Bryant can fill a big need if he is as well as before his injury. Danny needs a running mate in the middle of the 4-3.
Desmond Bryant can fill a big need if he is as well as before his injury. Danny needs a running mate in the middle of the 4-3.
Agree.
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All this conjecture about players the Browns don't even have yet.....and will not have at all except for a select few. Why don't we talk about ACTUAL Cleveland Browns players...and what these guys may do to contribute to the Browns actually winning some games. Let's make an assumption that the Browns are NOT going to start 22 rookies on this team. Further, lets make an assumption that the Browns will actually not have any rookies on the roster...or that rookies will make much of a contribution to winning (they really didn't last year) Lets look at the roster as is.
Start with the offense:
A. Quarterbacks. We have Brock Osweiler, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan
First question: who starts.....and what does each bring to help winning games?
2d question: do we need to replace/enhance this position?
B. Runninig Backs: Crowell, Duke, George Atkinson
A "winning" combination or do we need to enhance this position?
C. TEs Barnidge, DeValve, Telfer
A winning combination or is help needed?
D. Coleman, Britt, Higgins, Louis et al.
Winning combination? More help needed? (Gordon?)
E. OC: Tretter, Marcus Martin, Reiter
Two FA pickups here.
Winning combination?
F. Zeitler, Bitonio, Drango, Greco
Winning combination?
G. Thomas, Erving, Shon Coleman
JT secure....what about duel between Erving/Coleman...or do we need another?
All this conjecture about players the Browns don't even have yet.....and will not have at all except for a select few. Why don't we talk about ACTUAL Cleveland Browns players...and what these guys may do to contribute to the Browns actually winning some games. Let's make an assumption that the Browns are NOT going to start 22 rookies on this team. Further, lets make an assumption that the Browns will actually not have any rookies on the roster...or that rookies will make much of a contribution to winning (they really didn't last year) Lets look at the roster as is.
Start with the offense:
A. Quarterbacks. We have Brock Osweiler, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan
First question: who starts.....and what does each bring to help winning games?
2d question: do we need to replace/enhance this position?
B. Runninig Backs: Crowell, Duke, George Atkinson
A "winning" combination or do we need to enhance this position?
C. TEs Barnidge, DeValve, Telfer
A winning combination or is help needed?
D. Coleman, Britt, Higgins, Louis et al.
Winning combination? More help needed? (Gordon?)
E. OC: Tretter, Marcus Martin, Reiter
Two FA pickups here.
Winning combination?
F. Zeitler, Bitonio, Drango, Greco
Winning combination?
G. Thomas, Erving, Shon Coleman
JT secure....what about duel between Erving/Coleman...or do we need another?
i like jt...other than that we really really really suck everywhere...maybe tank...can't go wrong with a name like tank...these rb's...mediocre even with a good ol...i like duke as a special team player...he's not a rb...crowell is not the cream of the crop by any means...we have no recievers and crappy qb's...so i am with tourma...we need everything...still....20 yrs later...still need everything...face reality...
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Sam Darnold- USC Walter football has him going #1 overall.
When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
by the way...love the picture of the dude...one of my favorite movies....must have seen it 20 times at least....
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When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
by the way...love the picture of the dude...one of my favorite movies....must have seen it 20 times at least....
by the way...love the picture of the dude...one of my favorite movies....must have seen it 20 times at least....
Should be a picture of a judge pounding a gavel... "Order in the court! Stay on topic!"
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Should be a picture of a judge pounding a gavel... "Order in the court! Stay on topic!"
I don't have control here like I do there.
And, by the way....the cop with a gun in my court is more effective at controlling order than the gavel. Just a little inside information for you.
Would that I could apply that technique here. -
Not my style... I learned long ago that once created a thread takes on a life of its own.
Sometimes the tangents degrade a thread. However, many more times their mutations enhance them.
Over at Steve Hoffman Music Forums, a great place to talk music, whenever I created a thread I closed my OP with: "It's your thread now..."
My advice... Turn it loose... if it loves you, it will come back... eventually.
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Sam Darnold- USC Walter football has him going #1 overall.
When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
pretty bleak with the current roster...none of the recievers showed up...one broke his hand which does not bode well for his future...tough injury with those little bones in the hand...probably will have issues throughout his career..the others, pffft, where the fuck were they...i saw dropped balls mostly...no impact what so ever...ol sucks except for jt who has probably hit his peak now...qb's, eh...another boneheaded move by baby huey like the rg3 move and he'll be out the door..the defense...they plain ol suck...no speed, cannot cover backs out of the backfield or te's...no hard hitters...can't get off the field on 3rd downs...you name it and they suck at all of it...THEY NEED HELP.....
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When did the Browns sign him. Again, a hundred other threads exist about speculating on future possible players. Talk here about the guys that ARE now members of the Cleveland Browns.
pretty bleak with the current roster...none of the recievers showed up...one broke his hand which does not bode well for his future...tough injury with those little bones in the hand...probably will have issues throughout his career..the others, pffft, where the fuck were they...i saw dropped balls mostly...no impact what so ever...ol sucks except for jt who has probably hit his peak now...qb's, eh...another boneheaded move by baby huey like the rg3 move and he'll be out the door..the defense...they plain ol suck...no speed, cannot cover backs out of the backfield or te's...no hard hitters...can't get off the field on 3rd downs...you name it and they suck at all of it...THEY NEED HELP.....
pretty bleak with the current roster...none of the recievers showed up...one broke his hand which does not bode well for his future...tough injury with those little bones in the hand...probably will have issues throughout his career..the others, pffft, where the fuck were they...i saw dropped balls mostly...no impact what so ever...ol sucks except for jt who has probably hit his peak now...qb's, eh...another boneheaded move by baby huey like the rg3 move and he'll be out the door..the defense...they plain ol suck...no speed, cannot cover backs out of the backfield or te's...no hard hitters...can't get off the field on 3rd downs...you name it and they suck at all of it...THEY NEED HELP.....
Fair summary, except that I think they did a lot to improve their OL in Free Agency.
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pretty bleak with the current roster...none of the recievers showed up...one broke his hand which does not bode well for his future...tough injury with those little bones in the hand...probably will have issues throughout his career..the others, pffft, where the fuck were they...i saw dropped balls mostly...no impact what so ever...ol sucks except for jt who has probably hit his peak now...qb's, eh...another boneheaded move by baby huey like the rg3 move and he'll be out the door..the defense...they plain ol suck...no speed, cannot cover backs out of the backfield or te's...no hard hitters...can't get off the field on 3rd downs...you name it and they suck at all of it...THEY NEED HELP.....
Fair summary, except that I think they did a lot to improve their OL in Free Agency.
Fair summary, except that I think they did a lot to improve their OL in Free Agency.
we will see...there is also the other side of this...maybe our assistant coaches really suck and some of the players are not as bad as it appears...it's one or the other....although it could be both.....if so, i quote sorano about jabu....it's bad, its very very bad....
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Fair summary, except that I think they did a lot to improve their OL in Free Agency.
we will see...there is also the other side of this...maybe our assistant coaches really suck and some of the players are not as bad as it appears...it's one or the other....although it could be both.....if so, i quote sorano about jabu....it's bad, its very very bad....
we will see...there is also the other side of this...maybe our assistant coaches really suck and some of the players are not as bad as it appears...it's one or the other....although it could be both.....if so, i quote sorano about jabu....it's bad, its very very bad....
I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
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we will see...there is also the other side of this...maybe our assistant coaches really suck and some of the players are not as bad as it appears...it's one or the other....although it could be both.....if so, i quote sorano about jabu....it's bad, its very very bad....
I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
there's a shit load of asst. coaches though...we should have tried to sign munchak before he went to the steelers...there's lb coaches...dl coaches...secondary etc etc....there may be more than 1 horton....
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I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
there's a shit load of asst. coaches though...we should have tried to sign munchak before he went to the steelers...there's lb coaches...dl coaches...secondary etc etc....there may be more than 1 horton....
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All this conjecture about players the Browns don't even have yet.....and will not have at all except for a select few. Why don't we talk about ACTUAL Cleveland Browns players...and what these guys may do to contribute to the Browns actually winning some games. Let's make an assumption that the Browns are NOT going to start 22 rookies on this team. Further, lets make an assumption that the Browns will actually not have any rookies on the roster...or that rookies will make much of a contribution to winning (they really didn't last year) Lets look at the roster as is.
Start with the offense:
A. Quarterbacks. We have Brock Osweiler, Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan
First question: who starts.....and what does each bring to help winning games?
2d question: do we need to replace/enhance this position?
B. Runninig Backs: Crowell, Duke, George Atkinson
A "winning" combination or do we need to enhance this position?
C. TEs Barnidge, DeValve, Telfer
A winning combination or is help needed?
D. Coleman, Britt, Higgins, Louis et al.
Winning combination? More help needed? (Gordon?)
E. OC: Tretter, Marcus Martin, Reiter
Two FA pickups here.
Winning combination?
F. Zeitler, Bitonio, Drango, Greco
Winning combination?
G. Thomas, Erving, Shon Coleman
JT secure....what about duel between Erving/Coleman...or do we need another?
Start with the offense:
A. Quarterbacks. Brock Osweiler, Kevin Hogan.........GOT TO GO..WILL FIND A CHEAP VET QB AFTER DRAFT & MAY DRAFT ONE
B. Runninig Backs: Crowell, Duke, George Atkinson........WITH JACKSON ADDED THEY WILL HARDBALL CROW TO SIGN OR THEY LOVE 2ND ROUND OR ANY PICK
C. TEs Telfer........GOT TO GO..GOOD TE DRAFT TO RETIRE BARNEY
G. Erving, Shon Coleman........ONE WINS & THEY GOT TO KEEP THE OTHER..JT NO SPRING CHICKEN..
Defense:
DEs: X. Cooper.......GONE WITH GARRETT IN
DTs: Gabe Wright and Nile Lawrence-Stample .......WINNER STAYS
OLBs: Nate Ochard and Cam Johnson.......WINNER STAYS
ILBs: Demario Davis and Tank Carder.......NOT SOLD ON NEITHER. HELLO MR.FOSTER
CBs: Starters: Marcus Burley (who?)......WITH DRAMON WILLIAMS GONE..IF NOT 1 CB WHY NOT 2?
Safeties: Starters listed are Ed Reynolds (who?) Tyvus Powell. (Derrick Kindred listed on DL).....WE NEED BOTH..FS & SS
Punter: Britton Colquitt--HEY WE GOT ONE RIGHT
Kicker: Cody Parkey--DRAFT--PLEASE GOD NO MORE OFF THE STREET PEOPLE
LS: Charley Hughlett---PAID THE MAN
PR: Duke Johnson---WE NEED ONE & DUKE IS NOT MOSERT
KR: George Atkinson---IF YOU CAN CATCH A PUNT? THAN KO's ARE A BREEZE
Never to early to fire some people..It's Draft Season...CAPS^^^
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we will see...there is also the other side of this...maybe our assistant coaches really suck and some of the players are not as bad as it appears...it's one or the other....although it could be both.....if so, i quote sorano about jabu....it's bad, its very very bad....
I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
Night & Day Gip. Just what the doctor ordered.
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I think we improved on the asst. coach front in ditching Horton for William. At least I hope so.
Night & Day Gip. Just what the doctor ordered.
Night & Day Gip. Just what the doctor ordered.
Cmon......are there still people who think it's the coaches that make this team suck????.....
or a coach that can coach the bad outta them?....
Haaaaaahahahaha.........Im still waiting for Hue to make this team 4 games better....instantly.....
Whoops.....didnt happen....
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