Kyle Sloter is our QB target
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@ghoolie said:
The Browns will take Garrett #1 and Black Tarkenton at #12.
Hue Jackson fell in love with RGIII, and he is not going to admit he was wrong........... SOoooooooooooooo, he will draft this cockeyed sonofabitch and we will watch him get destroyed running around in the backfield like a jackoff.
Meanwhile, the Jets will take Trubisky at #6 and get the steal of the draft.
You seemed to be locked on Trubisly. What jumps out at you about him? Just looking to see what you see about him.
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@ghoolie said:
The Browns will take Garrett #1 and Black Tarkenton at #12.
Hue Jackson fell in love with RGIII, and he is not going to admit he was wrong........... SOoooooooooooooo, he will draft this cockeyed sonofabitch and we will watch him get destroyed running around in the backfield like a jackoff.
Meanwhile, the Jets will take Trubisky at #6 and get the steal of the draft.
You seemed to be locked on Trubisly. What jumps out at you about him? Just looking to see what you see about him.
You seemed to be locked on Trubisly. What jumps out at you about him? Just looking to see what you see about him.
He's from Ohio and is white
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
He's from Ohio and is white
Lol that's why I think many folks here like him. His Polish last name is nostalgiac too.
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Srgt. Sloter
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He's from Ohio and is white
There is something to be said for being succinct...
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If New England wants the kings ransom for Garoppolo then the Browns should be the same way with the #1 pick. I feel the Trubisky pick is a good one and we've been stung more than once but.....fuck it. If you can move to spot three and still land him that's awesome but if not then Soloman Thomas. Thomas is going to be the best player in this draft.
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He's from Ohio and is white
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He's from Ohio and is white
oh and he also said he wanted to be a Brown. Thus mania ensues.
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He's from Ohio and is white
Perhaps the best QB prospect to come around since Andrew Luck....or at least Jameis Winston.
Aaron Rodgers like skill in finding receivers while in motion.
Dan Marino like snap release.
Not Elway/Bradshaw like arm strength, but not far off.
Feathery touch when needed.
Quick decision making ability.
Good ability to read defenses.
Mobility. Not Michael Vick ...but maybe Steve Youngish
And he is white and from Ohio.
But, gee, so was Justin Zwick. And you know how we all clamored for him simply because he was white and from Ohio...and from Paul Brown's alma mater no less. (Massillon). So clearly that is what it is all about.
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He's from Ohio and is white
Perhaps the best QB prospect to come around since Andrew Luck....or at least Jameis Winston.
Aaron Rodgers like skill in finding receivers while in motion.
Dan Marino like snap release.
Not Elway/Bradshaw like arm strength, but not far off.
Feathery touch when needed.
Quick decision making ability.
Good ability to read defenses.
Mobility. Not Michael Vick ...but maybe Steve Youngish
And he is white and from Ohio.
But, gee, so was Justin Zwick. And you know how we all clamored for him simply because he was white and from Ohio...and from Paul Brown's alma mater no less. (Massillon). So clearly that is what it is all about.
Perhaps the best QB prospect to come around since Andrew Luck....or at least Jameis Winston.
Aaron Rodgers like skill in finding receivers while in motion.
Dan Marino like snap release.
Not Elway/Bradshaw like arm strength, but not far off.
Feathery touch when needed.
Quick decision making ability.
Good ability to read defenses.
Mobility. Not Michael Vick ...but maybe Steve Youngish
No QB in this class resembles that description
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Perhaps the best QB prospect to come around since Andrew Luck....or at least Jameis Winston.
Aaron Rodgers like skill in finding receivers while in motion.
Dan Marino like snap release.
Not Elway/Bradshaw like arm strength, but not far off.
Feathery touch when needed.
Quick decision making ability.
Good ability to read defenses.
Mobility. Not Michael Vick ...but maybe Steve Youngish
No QB in this class resembles that description
No QB in this class resembles that description
Not yet.
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No QB in this class resembles that description
Not yet.
Not yet.
Nor ever.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Not yet.
Nor ever.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
Nor ever.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
As well as your lack of insight, understanding and recognition of talent.
You see a white guy from Ohio, only because that is all what you want to see. You go out of your way to look for negativity.
I on the other hand, having no such prejudice, simply see the prospective talent.
And certainly so does just about everyone else.
He is routinely expected to go in the Top 6. It will be a major upset if he slips past that.
But, of course, I and everyone else that sees that is wrong while you are omniprescient.
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Nor ever.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
As well as your lack of insight, understanding and recognition of talent.
You see a white guy from Ohio, only because that is all what you want to see. You go out of your way to look for negativity.
I on the other hand, having no such prejudice, simply see the prospective talent.
And certainly so does just about everyone else.
He is routinely expected to go in the Top 6. It will be a major upset if he slips past that.
But, of course, I and everyone else that sees that is wrong while you are omniprescient.
As well as your lack of insight, understanding and recognition of talent.
You see a white guy from Ohio, only because that is all what you want to see. You go out of your way to look for negativity.
I on the other hand, having no such prejudice, simply see the prospective talent.
And certainly so does just about everyone else.
He is routinely expected to go in the Top 6. It will be a major upset if he slips past that.
But, of course, I and everyone else that sees that is wrong while you are omniprescient.
You don't "see" anything. You take whatever opinion ESPN gives you and then paste it here.
Everybody "sees" a question mark of a prospect with 13 starts and rank him as either the best or second best QB prospect in a year without any real legitimate #1 QB.
He's "expected" to go in the top 6 because QB's of the top 6 teams are Kessler, Hoyer, Glennon, Bortles, Mariota, and McCown. Two of the top 6 teams are starting Cleveland retreads while a third (Chicago) might have a former Cleveland backup take the job at some point this season. Only Mariota is a decent to above average starter. Even Bortles sucks (ouch).
There are three teams in the top 6 that may have worse QB situations than us. Think about that for a second - worse than the Cleveland Browns.....a team that is the punchline of every NFL joke.
Trubisky getting mocked as a top 6 QB is not any sort of indication of his talent, it's a testament to how bereft of QB talent the basement is in the NFL.
Trubisky is an okay prospect with okay arm talent and okay intelligence and okay intangibles and just enough athletic upside to make you wonder.
If he were from anywhere else in the country, you wouldn't give a shit. The fact that you even mentioned him in the same sentence as Andrew Luck is a neon sign pointing directly to your hard-on for him.
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As well as your lack of insight, understanding and recognition of talent.
You see a white guy from Ohio, only because that is all what you want to see. You go out of your way to look for negativity.
I on the other hand, having no such prejudice, simply see the prospective talent.
And certainly so does just about everyone else.
He is routinely expected to go in the Top 6. It will be a major upset if he slips past that.
But, of course, I and everyone else that sees that is wrong while you are omniprescient.
You don't "see" anything. You take whatever opinion ESPN gives you and then paste it here.
Everybody "sees" a question mark of a prospect with 13 starts and rank him as either the best or second best QB prospect in a year without any real legitimate #1 QB.
He's "expected" to go in the top 6 because QB's of the top 6 teams are Kessler, Hoyer, Glennon, Bortles, Mariota, and McCown. Two of the top 6 teams are starting Cleveland retreads while a third (Chicago) might have a former Cleveland backup take the job at some point this season. Only Mariota is a decent to above average starter. Even Bortles sucks (ouch).
There are three teams in the top 6 that may have worse QB situations than us. Think about that for a second - worse than the Cleveland Browns.....a team that is the punchline of every NFL joke.
Trubisky getting mocked as a top 6 QB is not any sort of indication of his talent, it's a testament to how bereft of QB talent the basement is in the NFL.
Trubisky is an okay prospect with okay arm talent and okay intelligence and okay intangibles and just enough athletic upside to make you wonder.
If he were from anywhere else in the country, you wouldn't give a shit. The fact that you even mentioned him in the same sentence as Andrew Luck is a neon sign pointing directly to your hard-on for him.
You don't "see" anything. You take whatever opinion ESPN gives you and then paste it here.
I see just as much as you do. When have YOU been paid to scout for NFL teams.
That is ALL that needs to be said about anything here.
Everybody "sees" a question mark of a prospect with 13 starts and rank him as either the best or second best QB prospect in a year without any real legitimate #1 QB.
He's "expected" to go in the top 6 because QB's of the top 6 teams are Kessler, Hoyer, Glennon, Bortles, Mariota, and McCown. Two of the top 6 teams are starting Cleveland retreads while a third (Chicago) might have a former Cleveland backup take the job at some point this season. Only Mariota is a decent to above average starter. Even Bortles sucks (ouch).
There are three teams in the top 6 that may have worse QB situations than us. Think about that for a second - worse than the Cleveland Browns.....a team that is the punchline of every NFL joke.
Trubisky getting mocked as a top 6 QB is not any sort of indication of his talent, it's a testament to how bereft of QB talent the basement is in the NFL.
Trubisky is an okay prospect with okay arm talent and okay intelligence and okay intangibles and just enough athletic upside to make you wonder.
Because that is the conclusion YOU came to by watching ESPN.
If he were from anywhere else in the country, you wouldn't give a shit. The fact that you even mentioned him in the same sentence as Andrew Luck is a neon sign pointing directly to your hard-on for him.
Except, I simply said that he, in some quarters, is said to be the best prospect to come out since Luck. And that is true.
But then...YOU ignore those opinions that disagree with you.
So...you can choose to discount all those opinions.
Where I will make the choice to discount your opinion.
And I will feel absolutely fine for doing so.
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Not yet.
Nor ever.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
Feel like I need to step in and defend Gip here.
No way does he care what color Trubs is...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No amount of making stuff up can justify the boner you have for a guy solely because he is white and from Ohio.
Feel like I need to step in and defend Gip here.
No way does he care what color Trubs is...
Feel like I need to step in and defend Gip here.
No way does he care what color Trubs is...
Nor that he is from Ohio. As I said, if that was the only criteria, I would have been all over Cardale Jones...or Charlie Frye....from my alma mater. I could have played Woody and have cream in my jeans for guys from just where I went to college. But I don't.
Though....speaking of longshot choices from my alma mater, think about this guy:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jerome-lane?id=2558120
Of course, you all perhaps remember his Dad:
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HBack, linebacker, I can see that. He doesn't have NFL speed or explosion out of his cuts.
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I'm not sure which round we'd take him, but it wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if the Browns drafted Josh Dobbs, QB from Tennessee. Been hearing/reading that the Browns were way more impressed with him than with Davis Webb at the Senior Bowl. Now, Dobbs isn't a guy who will likely play in 2017, and that might be ok since we have Kessler and Brock backing him up. If we don't trade up from 12 to 5 or 6 to grab Trubisky, and we can't complete the trade for Garopolo, I see the Browns drafting Dobbs somewhere in rounds 2 or 3. He's raw, but the guy is literally studying to be a rocket scientist, and his athleticism is something Hue Jackson covets. His accuracy is definitely iffy, but man...some of the throws he can make are awesome. He's smart, he's totally clean off the field, and you know he's going to work hard. When asked about the difficulty of learning an NFL playbook, he said it would be nothing compared to his courses he took in college. I tend to believe him. Dane Brugler has a 6th round draft grade on Dobbs, but there's no way he gets drafted there. There will be a team that falls in love with him and takes him earlier than people might think.
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He's from Ohio and is white
I have an issue with this. I get the local allure but in all fairness Bernie was too. The difference is Bernie started leaps and bounds more college games than 13. Bernie was also a national champion at Miami. These traits in my mind made him ready for the burden of being a local kid.
Even Roethlisberger started more than 13 college games. I'm not saying Trubisky can't or won't be good. I'm just saying it's harder to believe he'll be better than a quarterback that's a national champion and was a 3 year starter. Not to say it's impossible but it's less than probable.
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