The worst picks for every team in the last five years
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Cleveland.com article...
I have to admit there are a couple names I liked more than a little that made their list: CAR's Butler (DT) and Pats' Cyrus Jones (CB), but I can take some solace in the "jury still out" nature of each of their narratives.
Mud's not so lucky...
Other observations:
- Couple former Buckeye's made the list.
- Couple of franchises' contributions to the list have made their way to our roster with one still there.
- A lot of 1st rounders, but to find a contribution from a couple franchises, the article had to go as deep as Round 3.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Cleveland.com article...
I have to admit there are a couple names I liked more than a little that made their list: CAR's Butler (DT) and Pats' Cyrus Jones (CB), but I can take some solace in the "jury still out" nature of each of their narratives.
Mud's not so lucky...
Other observations:
- Couple former Buckeye's made the list.
- Couple of franchises' contributions to the list have made their way to our roster with one still there.
- A lot of 1st rounders, but to find a contribution from a couple franchises, the article had to go as deep as Round 3.
Cleveland.com article...
I have to admit there are a couple names I liked more than a little that made their list: CAR's Butler (DT) and Pats' Cyrus Jones (CB), but I can take some solace in the "jury still out" nature of each of their narratives.
Mud's not so lucky...
Other observations:
- Couple former Buckeye's made the list.
- Couple of franchises' contributions to the list have made their way to our roster with one still there.
- A lot of 1st rounders, but to find a contribution from a couple franchises, the article had to go as deep as Round 3.
Is Jonathan Cooper still on our roster? If not, who are you talking about?
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Craig Powell.. even though he went to Baltimore with the rest of the traitors, he still qualifies as a busted pick.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
"part of the reason he is the biggest miss is that the Browns traded down and then up to get him. In doing so, the Browns passed on Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack and Mike Evans to get Gilbert and a 2015 first-rounder, which became Cameron Erving, who may be another bust. Itβs a perfect example of why the Browns are where they are now."
Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch!!
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The AJ Jenkins one made me laugh because I remember Roby shutting him down the season before the Niners took him.
It was shortly after that team started to crumble.
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Craig Powell.. even though he went to Baltimore with the rest of the traitors, he still qualifies as a busted pick.
Craig Powell.. even though he went to Baltimore with the rest of the traitors, he still qualifies as a busted pick.
The link only went back like 5 years. But no doubt, you are right.
Here are my Top Baker's Dozen worst Browns First round picks since the institution of the common draft in 1966:
1. Craig Powell
2. Brady Quinn
3. Mike Junkin
4. Clifford Charlton
5. Justin Gilbert
6. Johhny Manziel
7. Willis Adams
8. Steve Holden
9. Pete Adams
10. Barkevious Mingo
11. William Green
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Cam Erving #
# Erving, theoretically could play himself off this list.
You see how bad it is when even Trent Richardson and Courtney Brown and Mack Mitchell and Tommy Vardell can't even crack the Top 13 worst list?
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Craig Powell.. even though he went to Baltimore with the rest of the traitors, he still qualifies as a busted pick.
The link only went back like 5 years. But no doubt, you are right.
Here are my Top Baker's Dozen worst Browns First round picks since the institution of the common draft in 1966:
1. Craig Powell
2. Brady Quinn
3. Mike Junkin
4. Clifford Charlton
5. Justin Gilbert
6. Johhny Manziel
7. Willis Adams
8. Steve Holden
9. Pete Adams
10. Barkevious Mingo
11. William Green
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Cam Erving #
# Erving, theoretically could play himself off this list.
You see how bad it is when even Trent Richardson and Courtney Brown and Mack Mitchell and Tommy Vardell can't even crack the Top 13 worst list?
The link only went back like 5 years. But no doubt, you are right.
Here are my Top Baker's Dozen worst Browns First round picks since the institution of the common draft in 1966:
1. Craig Powell
2. Brady Quinn
3. Mike Junkin
4. Clifford Charlton
5. Justin Gilbert
6. Johhny Manziel
7. Willis Adams
8. Steve Holden
9. Pete Adams
10. Barkevious Mingo
11. William Green
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Cam Erving #
# Erving, theoretically could play himself off this list.
You see how bad it is when even Trent Richardson and Courtney Brown and Mack Mitchell and Tommy Vardell can't even crack the Top 13 worst list?
Then it should be the top 20.
If you're talking level of suck, "Mad Dog in a Meat Market" Mike Junkin tops my list. Richardson makes it too, because we gave up unnecessary picks to draft him. -
I've never thought it was fair to include Courtney Brown since his fall was primarily after a bad injury. He had a decent rookie year and was on pace to get nearly a sack a game his second season when the injury occurred. He couda been a contender for all-pro but for that. He was not a bad pick in my mind, just bad luck.
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The link only went back like 5 years. But no doubt, you are right.
Here are my Top Baker's Dozen worst Browns First round picks since the institution of the common draft in 1966:
1. Craig Powell
2. Brady Quinn
3. Mike Junkin
4. Clifford Charlton
5. Justin Gilbert
6. Johhny Manziel
7. Willis Adams
8. Steve Holden
9. Pete Adams
10. Barkevious Mingo
11. William Green
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Cam Erving #
# Erving, theoretically could play himself off this list.
You see how bad it is when even Trent Richardson and Courtney Brown and Mack Mitchell and Tommy Vardell can't even crack the Top 13 worst list?
Then it should be the top 20.
If you're talking level of suck, "Mad Dog in a Meat Market" Mike Junkin tops my list. Richardson makes it too, because we gave up unnecessary picks to draft him. -
I've never thought it was fair to include Courtney Brown since his fall was primarily after a bad injury. He had a decent rookie year and was on pace to get nearly a sack a game his second season when the injury occurred. He couda been a contender for all-pro but for that. He was not a bad pick in my mind, just bad luck.
I've never thought it was fair to include Courtney Brown since his fall was primarily after a bad injury. He had a decent rookie year and was on pace to get nearly a sack a game his second season when the injury occurred. He couda been a contender for all-pro but for that. He was not a bad pick in my mind, just bad luck.
I don't know. Even when he had no health issues he played far too passively to live up to his draft status.
The one guy I did not include, though perhaps rightly he should be included was Don Rogers. He died after his first or second season from cocaine. I guess if someone is considered a bust because in injury. (see Kijana Carter, Emtman etc.) a guy that kills himself essentially should get the same treatment.
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The link only went back like 5 years. But no doubt, you are right.
Here are my Top Baker's Dozen worst Browns First round picks since the institution of the common draft in 1966:
1. Craig Powell
2. Brady Quinn
3. Mike Junkin
4. Clifford Charlton
5. Justin Gilbert
6. Johhny Manziel
7. Willis Adams
8. Steve Holden
9. Pete Adams
10. Barkevious Mingo
11. William Green
12. Brandon Weeden
13. Cam Erving #
# Erving, theoretically could play himself off this list.
You see how bad it is when even Trent Richardson and Courtney Brown and Mack Mitchell and Tommy Vardell can't even crack the Top 13 worst list?
Then it should be the top 20.
If you're talking level of suck, "Mad Dog in a Meat Market" Mike Junkin tops my list. Richardson makes it too, because we gave up unnecessary picks to draft him.Then it should be the top 20.
If you're talking level of suck, "Mad Dog in a Meat Market" Mike Junkin tops my list. Richardson makes it too, because we gave up unnecessary picks to draft him.We gave up unnecessary picks to take Richardson but then got a 1st round pick from the Colts for his dead ass. Of course we then fucked that up by taking Manzidiot but we did get a 1st round pick for Richardson.
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"part of the reason he is the biggest miss is that the Browns traded down and then up to get him. In doing so, the Browns passed on Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack and Mike Evans to get Gilbert and a 2015 first-rounder, which became Cameron Erving, who may be another bust. Itβs a perfect example of why the Browns are where they are now."
Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch!!
So Gip like to highjack threads and bitch if someone strays out of the lane he sets up in his... got it...
"part of the reason he is the biggest miss is that the Browns traded down and then up to get him. In doing so, the Browns passed on Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack and Mike Evans to get Gilbert and a 2015 first-rounder, which became Cameron Erving, who may be another bust. Itβs a perfect example of why the Browns are where they are now."
Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch!!
Debate over at reddit if Gilbert was even our worst...
The other contender was Trent Richardson... who we moved up to take... passing over Kuechly, Stephon Gilmore, Dontari Poe, and Fletcher Cox... then traded for a 1st round pick... that we spent on JFF.
That's messed up right there...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So Gip like to highjack threads and bitch if someone strays out of the lane he sets up in his... got it...
"part of the reason he is the biggest miss is that the Browns traded down and then up to get him. In doing so, the Browns passed on Sammy Watkins, Khalil Mack and Mike Evans to get Gilbert and a 2015 first-rounder, which became Cameron Erving, who may be another bust. Itβs a perfect example of why the Browns are where they are now."
Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch!!
Debate over at reddit if Gilbert was even our worst...
The other contender was Trent Richardson... who we moved up to take... passing over Kuechly, Stephon Gilmore, Dontari Poe, and Fletcher Cox... then traded for a 1st round pick... that we spent on JFF.
That's messed up right there...
So Gip like to highjack threads and bitch if someone strays out of the lane he sets up in his... got it...
The thread is about the worst draft picks made over a period of time.
All I did was extend the time a bit, and limit it to those made by the Browns.
So, as I see it, I simply extrapolated and narrowed it at the same time so as to be of interest to the readers of this forum.
After all....why should Browns fans on a Browns forum give a shit about the failed draft picks of other teams.
And I am not the one to even start it....whomever mentioned Craig Powell got that rolling.
Your thank you to me for saving your thread is welcome.
Debate over at reddit if Gilbert was even our worst...
The other contender was Trent Richardson... who we moved up to take... passing over Kuechly, Stephon Gilmore, Dontari Poe, and Fletcher Cox... then traded for a 1st round pick... that we spent on JFF.
That's messed up right there...
Brady Quinn was worse than them both.
Oh...I'm sorry...did I go out of your preset boring parameters? Oops.
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Mike Junkin was the worst 1st round pick in Browns history
They traded Chip Banks to get to the #5 pick for Junkin
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But for our ACTUAL first round pick, it has to be. Courtney Brown. The lamest, unmotivated, worthless, piece of garbage EVER
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But for our ACTUAL first round pick, it has to be. Courtney Brown. The lamest, unmotivated, worthless, piece of garbage EVER
But for our ACTUAL first round pick, it has to be. Courtney Brown. The lamest, unmotivated, worthless, piece of garbage EVER
For a #1 over all, agreed. Forgot who on the Broncos called him "soft".
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Yeah... Kellen couldn't stay healthy. There was that whole "warrior" thing rant, but at its root was passion, so a partial pass on that.
Same with Brown... injury-related is a special subset of worst. Solid rookie year... only full season he was on the field.
Junkin? Injuries, but also a healthy dose of "not very good".
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The good thing about Powell is that he was a Bill Belichick special, but he was drafted like the year before his contract was assigned to the Baltimore Ravens franchise. So, we were spared the full extent of his suckage.
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Yeah... Kellen couldn't stay healthy. There was that whole "warrior" thing rant, but at its root was passion, so a partial pass on that.
Same with Brown... injury-related is a special subset of worst. Solid rookie year... only full season he was on the field.
Junkin? Injuries, but also a healthy dose of "not very good".
Yeah... Kellen couldn't stay healthy. There was that whole "warrior" thing rant, but at its root was passion, so a partial pass on that.
Same with Brown... injury-related is a special subset of worst. Solid rookie year... only full season he was on the field.
Junkin? Injuries, but also a healthy dose of "not very good".
Brown had 4.5 sacks those first 5 games of his second year before the injury. Say what anyone will, but that tells me he was beginning to live up to the pick.
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