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  • Lotta small markets in the OP list.

    Hartford once had the WHA Whalers who, IIRC, merged into the NHL.

    @tour2ma said:

    Lotta small markets in the OP list.

    Hartford once had the WHA Whalers who, IIRC, merged into the NHL.

    That was a tough loss for Hartford losing an NHL team to a financially better market in the Carolinas. Also losing center Ronnie Francis to the Penguins before the move kind of sealed the deal when I was watching Pittsburgh make history with Lemieux.

    .... Francis played almost ten seasons with the Whalers, serving as captain for almost six and setting nearly every offensive record in franchise history. He was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins on March 4, 1991 with Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings, in exchange for Jeff Parker, Zarley Zalapski, and John Cullen. The trade became a coup for Pittsburgh, where he centred a formidable second line behind Mario Lemieux, as the Penguins won their first Stanley Cup less than three months later.

    Francis was indispensable the following year, as Pittsburgh repeated as champions, in leading the team during the absence of Lemieux in the 1992 playoffs – and in scoring the Cup-clinching goal against the Chicago Blackhawks. At the same time, it is considered to be one of the most one-sided trades in NHL history....

  • @d-bone said:

    ...... after a 1-15 season, some might say Cleveland.

    We have a team that will be good soon.

    @the-gipper said:

    We have a team that will be good soon.

    Maybe the best shot in years. And an interesting thread.

  • Um, you forgot one Gip. I'll let you look up the city where the very first NFL game was played.

  • @d-bone said:

    ...... after a 1-15 season, some might say Cleveland.

    We have a team that will be good soon.

    @the-gipper said:

    We have a team that will be good soon.

    Good at what.. going 1-15?

  • All sports go through a weeding out process when leagues first form.

  • Um, you forgot one Gip. I'll let you look up the city where the very first NFL game was played.

    @hoorta said:

    Um, you forgot one Gip. I'll let you look up the city where the very first NFL game was played.

    Right, Dayton. Yes, I overlooked it. It is so easy to overlook Dayton and people from there. 😛 😁

  • All sports go through a weeding out process when leagues first form.

    @ballpeen said:

    All sports go through a weeding out process when leagues first form.

    Certainly true. Example, there is not a single team in the NFL that is in the same city as the original 1920 lineup. Only the Bears who were in Decatur and the Cardinals who were in Chicago are original 1920 franchises that are still in the league. Now, the Bears moved to Chicago in 1921, and the Green Bay Packers came into the league in 1921...so those two are the longest franchises in the league in their current city. That is 2 out of 32.

    In the NBA, there are only 2 original teams in their original cities from the first year of the league, which was 1946-47: The Boston Celtics and the New York Knicks..

    In the American League of baseball, the only original teams in their original cities beginning in 1901 are The White Sox (called White Stockings) Cleveland Indians (then called The Blues), Boston Red Sox (then called the Americans) and the Detroit Tigers. Only those Tigers kept the original name...unless you say that White Socks/Stockings are the same.

    In the National League, beginning in the 1880s only the Cincinnati Reds, the Philadelphia Phillies and the Chicago Cubs are original to their town. (and the Cubs were called "The Orphans")

    In the NHL, that leagues first season was 1917. ONLY the Montreal Canadiennes, and the Toronto Maple Leafs (originally the Arenas) are original to their town.

    They talk about the "Original Six", but really it is the Original Two. The other teams that are "original 6" Rangers, RedWings, Blackhawks, Bruins, came later. They call them that because the league was contracted down to 6 teams during WWII...and stayed that way until like the 1960s.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Lotta small markets in the OP list.

    Hartford once had the WHA Whalers who, IIRC, merged into the NHL.

    That was a tough loss for Hartford losing an NHL team to a financially better market in the Carolinas. Also losing center Ronnie Francis to the Penguins before the move kind of sealed the deal when I was watching Pittsburgh make history with Lemieux.

    .... Francis played almost ten seasons with the Whalers, serving as captain for almost six and setting nearly every offensive record in franchise history. He was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins on March 4, 1991 with Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings, in exchange for Jeff Parker, Zarley Zalapski, and John Cullen. The trade became a coup for Pittsburgh, where he centred a formidable second line behind Mario Lemieux, as the Penguins won their first Stanley Cup less than three months later.

    Francis was indispensable the following year, as Pittsburgh repeated as champions, in leading the team during the absence of Lemieux in the 1992 playoffs – and in scoring the Cup-clinching goal against the Chicago Blackhawks. At the same time, it is considered to be one of the most one-sided trades in NHL history....

    @mjp28 said:

    That was a tough loss for Hartford losing an NHL team to a financially better market in the Carolinas. Also losing center Ronnie Francis to the Penguins before the move kind of sealed the deal when I was watching Pittsburgh make history with Lemieux.

    .... Francis played almost ten seasons with the Whalers, serving as captain for almost six and setting nearly every offensive record in franchise history. He was traded to the Pittsburgh Penguins on March 4, 1991 with Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings, in exchange for Jeff Parker, Zarley Zalapski, and John Cullen. The trade became a coup for Pittsburgh, where he centred a formidable second line behind Mario Lemieux, as the Penguins won their first Stanley Cup less than three months later.

    Francis was indispensable the following year, as Pittsburgh repeated as champions, in leading the team during the absence of Lemieux in the 1992 playoffs – and in scoring the Cup-clinching goal against the Chicago Blackhawks. At the same time, it is considered to be one of the most one-sided trades in NHL history....

    The only reason I know the Whalers is the Howe family: Gordie, Mark and Marty. Folks often forget that before the Howe's played for Hartford, they played for the WHA, Houston Aeros. The Aeros approached Gordie, who resisted their offer for a while, only relenting when the Aeros extended their offer to include his sons.

    Seeing a 50-yo man not just skate, but actually play the game at his age was one of the more impressive things I've seen in sport. The old man was still strong and played strong. I saw them play in the old Sam Houston Colosseum in the mid-70's. The Aeros were a WHA powerhouse.

    Then I followed Mark through his solid NHL career since he went to my NHL team, the Flyers.

    Also saw the Aeros play the Cleveland Crusaders a couple time... back when Cheevers was one of the best goalies in the game. Loved his "scarface" mask...

  • @the-gipper said:

    We have a team that will be good soon.

    Good at what.. going 1-15?

    @nickers said:

    Good at what.. going 1-15?

    They have an "opportunity" to be better soon but be careful they don't blow it or risk alienating yet even more future generations of BROWNS fans.....and becoming the answer to more trivia questions.

    "What ever happened to......"

  • @hoorta said:

    Um, you forgot one Gip. I'll let you look up the city where the very first NFL game was played.

    Right, Dayton. Yes, I overlooked it. It is so easy to overlook Dayton and people from there. 😛 😁

    @the-gipper said:

    Right, Dayton. Yes, I overlooked it. It is so easy to overlook Dayton and people from there. 😛 😁

    LOL Remember the Triangles!!. 😁 We still have a Triangle Park, though there's zero left of any stadium (if there ever was one in the first place). marker2.jpg