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  • Foster failed a drug test at the combine. Plus him getting shitty with a hospital employee...

    Might get the Dak treatment.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Foster failed a drug test at the combine. Plus him getting shitty with a hospital employee...

    Might get the Dak treatment.

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Foster failed a drug test at the combine. Plus him getting shitty with a hospital employee...

    Might get the Dak treatment.

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

    @wargograw said:

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

    Provided he stays clean.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Foster failed a drug test at the combine. Plus him getting shitty with a hospital employee...

    Might get the Dak treatment.

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

    @wargograw said:

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

    Or the JM/JG treatment. As much as I like Foster, for the Browns this is a really big gamble.

  • Or the JM/JG treatment

    Manziel/Garropolo?

  • Or the JM/JG treatment

    Manziel/Garropolo?

    @the-gipper said:

    Or the JM/JG treatment

    Manziel/Garropolo?

    In your dreams. JM and Josh Gordon duo.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Or the JM/JG treatment

    Manziel/Garropolo?

    In your dreams. JM and Josh Gordon duo.

    @texasag1969 said:

    In your dreams. JM and Josh Gordon duo.

    Oh, OK, Gordon. Usually on here we see the JG reference to Garro---Polo. Garro---Polo. Garro---Polo.

    (I wonder if his middle name is Marco?)

  • Who are your BPA that will fill our desperate needs that will improve the team this year?

  • Who are your BPA that will fill our desperate needs that will improve the team this year?

    @lbc-mike said:

    Who are your BPA that will fill our desperate needs that will improve the team this year?

    Me? First, I would be looking for long term improvement, not just immediate improvement. And what is BPA is a whole matter of opinion.

    As I have said in other threads, QB is our biggest need, and a link Tour gave said it is a need on a 10 out of 10 scale.

    The 8-9 out of 10 are OLB, CB/Safeties/DT/DE.

    I am not privy to the Browns own board, so I don't know who they have as the best BPA...and I am not going to guess on it. I just hear rumblings that they all don't agree themselves on that matter.

  • I am hoping that this brain trust is also looking at next years draft class also.

  • Sahsi admitted they had already begun looking at 2018 in his presser.

    Interesting article on the man who is ceo of Amazon, Jeff Bezos. One of his quotes he pushes with his employees is to, "disagree and commit." Basically, you may not agree with the idea but you have to commit as one team to go all in and trust that it is going to work. In this case, I can see this type of scenario in any draft room. There are going to be people who disagree with whom is going to be selected, especially at number one. That is why you have a multitude of scouts pouring over information to gather one collective thought. But as a unit, they have to commit to the player. this is where Farmer and Pettine went horribly wrong. Farmer went ahead and took the player and forced him on Pettine (JM). I think this regime is different. IMOP, this philosophy is going to be utilized. In the end, Sashi has the final say, but from what I can tell from his press conference, they know who the #1 pick is going to be and it's going to be Garrett. These rumors that are coming out are simply that in an effort to discredit this whole regime. I have not seen one minute of Haslam this year and for the last few years he was all over the place. I want to hope, he knows, he needs to stay out of the personnel business on the football side.

  • @wargograw said:

    And he will give whatever team drafts him the Dak treatment....

    Or the JM/JG treatment. As much as I like Foster, for the Browns this is a really big gamble.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Or the JM/JG treatment. As much as I like Foster, for the Browns this is a really big gamble.

    Depends on whether you believe his "dehydration" explanation. The fact that he jumped in front of this story, that he made it public and contacted every team personally to make his case speaks volumes to me. Bit as Louis Reddick (IIRC) said on both NFL insiders and Live yesterday, at this point teams are looking at this "fail" as "confirmation bias"... same as they do any new information on any prospect at this point in the draft prep process. In other words if they were leaning "no", then they are now likely a firm no. But if they were still a firm "yes" after the Combine dust up, then they are likelier to remain a yes pending the results of renewed due diligence.

    One positive for Foster is that several FOs have told Riddick that he has never tested positive for anything at any level. Another is that in general teams have satisfied themselves that the Combine incident had an antagonist on the hospital staff as well. Plus if you add in a physical illness factor on Foster's side of the ledger, it makes his over reaction more understandable. But key here is that any "food poisoning" should have been part of the initial narrative Foster supplied. If it was not, then teams have a legitimate reason to doubt him.

    While I am still pro-Foster at 12, obviously the one thing I can't do is meet with him face-to-face and take a personal measure of his "story". But I will have a opportunity to do the next best thing... see him tell it.

    Foster is scheduled to be on NFL Insiders and NFL Live this Tuesday.

    @bigalow80 said:

    Sahsi admitted they had already begun looking at 2018 in his presser.

    Interesting article on the man who is ceo of Amazon, Jeff Bezos. One of his quotes he pushes with his employees is to, "disagree and commit." Basically, you may not agree with the idea but you have to commit as one team to go all in and trust that it is going to work. In this case, I can see this type of scenario in any draft room. There are going to be people who disagree with whom is going to be selected, especially at number one. That is why you have a multitude of scouts pouring over information to gather one collective thought. But as a unit, they have to commit to the player. this is where Farmer and Pettine went horribly wrong. Farmer went ahead and took the player and forced him on Pettine (JM). I think this regime is different. IMOP, this philosophy is going to be utilized. In the end, Sashi has the final say, but from what I can tell from his press conference, they know who the #1 pick is going to be and it's going to be Garrett. These rumors that are coming out are simply that in an effort to discredit this whole regime. I have not seen one minute of Haslam this year and for the last few years he was all over the place. I want to hope, he knows, he needs to stay out of the personnel business on the football side.

    With the exception of considering players with off-field issues, e.g., Mixon, I agree about Jimmah's role, but where the franchise's image is concerned he has to chime in/buy in.

    Another term for the Bezos approach is "consent". You have to at least be able to live with a decision to commit to making it work.

    In his presser with Berry, Sashi said working on 2018 was one of the benefits of having this FO in place from the beginning of the offseason for the first time. That they have worked the 2018 draft to any extent belies the reported "division" over the 2017 class or at least the extent of any division.

  • Changing topics a bit - I'm on board with Marcus Williams in the 2nd. Kid has eyes for the QB.

    Doesn't have his range, but the eyes are Earl Thomas-esque.