Pick the bust in the 2017 draft
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Biggest bust: Myles Garrett
He'll be solid but not worth a top 3 pick
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Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him.
Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II)
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Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him.
Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II)
Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him.
Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II)
But Clowney was the #1 out of high school.
During his high school career, Clowney was often regarded as the best player in his class. ESPN described him as "a special talent who could have vied for the top spot in several previous classes."[11] Both major recruiting services, Rivals.com and Scout.com, as well as ESPNU, considered Clowney not only a five-star recruit, but also the No. 1 overall prospect of the 2011 class, basically throughout his senior year.
A unanimous College All-American as a sophomore in 2012, Clowney set South Carolina school records in quarterback sacks (13.0) and tackles for a loss (23.5) per season while also earning Defensive Player of the Year honors in the Southeastern Conference. Described by ESPN as "one of those rare game-changers on defense," Clowney was drafted first overall by the Texans in the 2014.
It's the same rhetoric, different player.
That settles it....my choice to bust, Myles Garrett
No, just kidding. Don't follow college ball and it's players enough to make an educated guess.
Myles Garret may indeed be a bust, five years after he retires... as a bust in the HOF.
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To me...Clowneys issue isnt his physical talent....it's his mind....
My take was always that he wasnt driven to be great and/or he wasnt really that into football....
You have to really want it.....Garrett seems to....Clowney never did....
To me...Clowneys issue isnt his physical talent....it's his mind....
My take was always that he wasnt driven to be great and/or he wasnt really that into football....
You have to really want it.....Garrett seems to....Clowney never did....
But I think JJ has been a great influence on Clowney which is partially why he had a far better 2016, the other part being injuries the first 2 years. He'll be even better when Watt returns, just like I think Ogbah is gonna shine when O's take more notice of Garrett on the other end. Thomas is gonna make a real all-pro player out of Garrett within a couple of years. I think he is salivating over a chance to teach the rook a thing or two about how to beat great LT's. And Garrett is a more than willing student. It will be fun comparing the beginning games to the end ones this year to see how he progresses. I enjoyed watching Ogbah get better from beginning to end last year and can hardly wait to see him this year with more defensive help from day one.
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Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney?
Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything.
Once recovered from injuries, Clowney did just fine this year even without JJ.
My pick is Barnett as a bust.Overrated.
My pick is Barnett as a bust.Overrated.
Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well.
My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT.
Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Other than the fact that the first two faced the "Browns jinx", who could tell about who would bust or not from that draft?
None of the Top 3 have lived up to their draft status:
Clowney
Greg Robinson OT
Bortles.
Not certifiable busts, but underachievers.
Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney?
Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything.
Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney?
Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything.
Exactly. Clowney more touted. Now, it seems perhaps that he is finalyl rounding into a productive player, but he has certainly underachieved to this point. Yes, injury is a fact....but a lot of player end up classified as busts due to injury. They are still busts.
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Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him.
Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II)
Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him.
Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II)
My biggest concern about Garrett is that he earned much of his reputation by blowing away inferior competition. Like 75% of his sacks were against "mid-major" or D1-AA schools. When he had to go up against the talent of the SEC, he performed at a more mediocre level.
There won't be any Prairie Views in the NFL.
So, as great as everyone sees his potential, I am still skeptical for the above reason.
I am not guaranteeing he will be a bust (like Ghoolie is), like I said though, I am not slobbering over him like some of all y'all.
Given the Browns poor first round drafting history....I am skeptical of every one (yes, even MT..even though I may think he is our best chance of getting a franchise QB)
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My pick is Barnett as a bust.Overrated.
Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well.
My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT.
Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement.
Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well.
My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT.
Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement.
I think I do agree with this.
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Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well.
My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT.
Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement.
I think I do agree with this.
I think I do agree with this.
It's the easy one that I agree with also.Almost any of them..OL men at next level have not seen the crazed Bobby Bu-shay right across from them..till now
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While we're on the record:
Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft
Mahomes will bust
Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton
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I can't remember when I've heard such uncertainty from all the paid prognosticators about all of the potential top 3 or 4 round QB picks as in this year, almost makes everyone want to take a pass and go with best available unless you get some great deals from other teams to take a flyer on one.
Sad thing is there are plenty of QB needs out there. Can't wait for Thursday to see how were we all wrong! (Wish it was still Saturday/Sunday on ESPN.)
Wonder which QBs will break out in 2017-2018? Watch the BROWNS win a few too many games to grab one.
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Oh, yeah. I should have tossed in Barnett with my Watson pick.
Might have the slowest step of any hyped first round Edge I've seen in a while.
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While we're on the record:
Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft
Mahomes will bust
Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton
Mitch2Pryor said:
While we're on the record:
Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft
Mahomes will bust
Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton
Nah, there's plenty not to like about Kizer. Mental aspect, check. But if that's all it took, Ryan Fitzpatrick would be having a HOF career. MHO is of the four Trubs, Mahomes, Kizer, Watson- he's a close second in bust potential behind Deshawn. You can fix mechanics (sometimes) but you can't fix accuracy.
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While we're on the record:
Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft
Mahomes will bust
Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton
Mitch2Pryor said:
Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton
In that case you are in bad need of a screen-name update... unless WSH picks Trubs in a draft shocker.
I can't remember when I've heard such uncertainty from all the paid prognosticators about all of the potential top 3 or 4 round QB picks as in this year...
I've come to the same conclusion based on my personal migration... Trubs to Watson to Kizer... never being anywhere close to all in on any one of them.
Oh, yeah. I should have tossed in Barnett with my Watson pick. Might have the slowest step of any hyped first round Edge I've seen in a while.
Not to mention his top end lacking...
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