Camp Trade Down
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Doesn't sound like we're trading down, and I know a bunch of people that would be EXTREMELY happy about that if Garrett is the guy. I can promise you that I'll be buying a Garrett jersey immediately (effectively ending his career in the NFL), and I think the overall excitement and buzz of taking the #1 pick and having it be someone like Garrett will be wonderful for Cleveland. I'm also excited that Garrett will get to practice against Joe Thomas, and I really believe that will help him sooner than later.
Foolish investment, buying jerseys of unproven players. If you must buy, try #32, #14, #76. Retired numbers of HOFers Brown/OG/Groza.
I mean, I suppose you have a #2 JMZ jersey. How did that work out?
Foolish investment, buying jerseys of unproven players. If you must buy, try #32, #14, #76. Retired numbers of HOFers Brown/OG/Groza.
I mean, I suppose you have a #2 JMZ jersey. How did that work out?
Or it might be like the Star Wars action figures my wife throw out after the kids grew up. Now they are worth a ton. Ya never know who will pay how much for what likely will be a rarity 30 years from now if it's still in plastic (like mine).
Now if I can just get him to autograph it. -
Foolish investment, buying jerseys of unproven players. If you must buy, try #32, #14, #76. Retired numbers of HOFers Brown/OG/Groza.
I mean, I suppose you have a #2 JMZ jersey. How did that work out?
Or it might be like the Star Wars action figures my wife throw out after the kids grew up. Now they are worth a ton. Ya never know who will pay how much for what likely will be a rarity 30 years from now if it's still in plastic (like mine).
Now if I can just get him to autograph it.Or it might be like the Star Wars action figures my wife throw out after the kids grew up. Now they are worth a ton. Ya never know who will pay how much for what likely will be a rarity 30 years from now if it's still in plastic (like mine).
Now if I can just get him to autograph it.If he becomes that good, then you can buy his jersey later.....when you know it may continue to be worth something.
I mean, how much is a JMZ #2 going for now?
I saw them in stores for half price. Why don't you just give these away, burn them, or donate them to the Salvation Army?
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War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
Personally I'd go Foster. I know the Captain Underpants crowd may not like that too much but it's a good pick.War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
OJ is also there as is Hooker, the CBs, and Reddick.
You can't put any one guy on a pedestal. There's a price for everything. I've watched him as much as anyone here. Myles ain't THAT good.
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5, 18 and a 2018 3rd and I'm on board.
I love Garret's potential, but it's still only potential.
MG is the best prospect in this class, but Picking at five guarantees another elite defensive prospect (Allen, Adams, Hooker, Lattimore, Thomas) and allows to add another first rd talent like Conley, Mckinnley or McDowell. The 2018 3rd is icing on the cake.
It's still close as I've fallen in love with the idea of Garrett coming at the QB from one side while Ogbah comes from the other but a 1st rd of: Allen, Howard, Conley is too good to pass up.
It's still close as I've fallen in love with the idea of Garrett coming at the QB from one side while Ogbah comes from the other but a 1st rd of: Allen, Howard, Conley is too good to pass up.
Perhaps if you add QBs getting flushed up and into the waiting arms of Des and/or Danny to your "vision", it'd be enough to get you to step back from the edge of that ledge you're on...
Don't jump, man... think of your children!
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I'm starting to wish the Browns could get Adams. That kid is going to be great.
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I'm starting to wish the Browns could get Adams. That kid is going to be great.
I honestly believe Adams is the best player in the draft.....#1.....and, in the end, will prove to be the best pro.....
Garrett has higher measureables and is at a more desirable position....but,, personally.....Id be just as happy with Adams......
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Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Adams was a guest on NFL Live yesterday. Really came over well and would pack the ladies into the stands, i.e., good-looking kid.... real face of the franchise, billboard material. Interviews? Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Told a great story about how he's been a hitter since the age of five. Was knocking kids out by age eight causing some teams to forfeit games and others to continue on the condition that Adams be sidelined. He said big hits are not his objective... his objective is to get the ball carrier on the ground by any means possible... but if a shot presents itself, he's going to take it.
I did not realize his Dad is a former 1st round pick... NYG in the 80's... and has a SB ring.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Adams was a guest on NFL Live yesterday. Really came over well and would pack the ladies into the stands, i.e., good-looking kid.... real face of the franchise, billboard material. Interviews? Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Told a great story about how he's been a hitter since the age of five. Was knocking kids out by age eight causing some teams to forfeit games and others to continue on the condition that Adams be sidelined. He said big hits are not his objective... his objective is to get the ball carrier on the ground by any means possible... but if a shot presents itself, he's going to take it.
I did not realize his Dad is a former 1st round pick... NYG in the 80's... and has a SB ring.
Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Adams was a guest on NFL Live yesterday. Really came over well and would pack the ladies into the stands, i.e., good-looking kid.... real face of the franchise, billboard material. Interviews? Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Told a great story about how he's been a hitter since the age of five. Was knocking kids out by age eight causing some teams to forfeit games and others to continue on the condition that Adams be sidelined. He said big hits are not his objective... his objective is to get the ball carrier on the ground by any means possible... but if a shot presents itself, he's going to take it.
I did not realize his Dad is a former 1st round pick... NYG in the 80's... and has a SB ring.
Yep.....he is the only acceptable reason I see for a trade down(1 spot only, please).....because if the Browns found a way to get an extra #1(or more)....plus Adams.....and still keep #12....Im in.....
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I'm starting to wish the Browns could get Adams. That kid is going to be great.
I honestly believe Adams is the best player in the draft.....#1.....and, in the end, will prove to be the best pro.....
Garrett has higher measureables and is at a more desirable position....but,, personally.....Id be just as happy with Adams......
....Id be just as happy with Adams......
here's your chance to go get Whitner fresh out of OSU again..let them think your going up from 12 for QB..only thing that matters..Put Adams on the Card..
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War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
Perfect example of why I wouldn't make this trade. The Browns defense needs the most help, but the best four defenders are off the board. Not to mention that the #1 pick is head and shoulders above any other player in the draft, according to player ratings AND on the field performance. Sure, you'll get Trubisky here - but put him together with whoever you get at #18 and it still doesn't add-up to the quality of football player that Garrett is. Stand pat, take Garrett at 1 and Howard/Conley/Hooker at 12 and the Browns would be much better for it.
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War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
War............So if the trade goes through and the picks go as below in no particular order after Garrett, who do you take @ #5? Lattimore, Hooker, Trubs?
1. Garrett
2. Allen
3. Thomas
4. Adams
5. ??
If the Browns keep #1 and draft Garrett and the above scenario plays out through pick #3, I would hope that Sashi would try to trade up to #4 to get Adams.
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Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Adams was a guest on NFL Live yesterday. Really came over well and would pack the ladies into the stands, i.e., good-looking kid.... real face of the franchise, billboard material. Interviews? Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Told a great story about how he's been a hitter since the age of five. Was knocking kids out by age eight causing some teams to forfeit games and others to continue on the condition that Adams be sidelined. He said big hits are not his objective... his objective is to get the ball carrier on the ground by any means possible... but if a shot presents itself, he's going to take it.
I did not realize his Dad is a former 1st round pick... NYG in the 80's... and has a SB ring.
Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Speaking of Ums (de dumbs)......didja see Corey Colemans interview this past week?.......wow.....not impressive
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The worse the interview, the better the player.
Is that what Jamarcus said?
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My bad. Forgot to mention the "doesn't apply to QBs" clause. OL also need some intelligence in the NFL (but not college). Everywhere else, let the dummies reign.
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Browns called teams today to see if anyone wants to move up to their 12th pick from the back of the draft. They are locked in at one.
Do we trust this guy
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Lomtardi is worthless, the homeless guy who told Jim haslam to take John Manziel would have a better track record than that post-op Matilda.
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Agree... I have him #2 on my board... but his case for #1 is there.
Has a bad case of the "ums", but with practice they will go away just as they faded during the show as he relaxed a little.
Speaking of Ums (de dumbs)......didja see Corey Colemans interview this past week?.......wow.....not impressive
Speaking of Ums (de dumbs)......didja see Corey Colemans interview this past week?.......wow.....not impressive
Little wonder Corey did poorly on the Wunderlich.
Browns called teams today to see if anyone wants to move up to their 12th pick from the back of the draft. They are locked in at one.
Do we trust this guy
Due diligence. If anything, we're trading up, not back. Now if Trubs is gone and they don't like any of the other qbs, I could see that happening. General rule- don't believe Lombardi.
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Lomtardi is worthless, the homeless guy who told Jim haslam to take John Manziel would have a better track record than that post-op Matilda.
Lomtardi is worthless, the homeless guy who told Jim haslam to take John Manziel would have a better track record than that post-op Matilda.
Most likely due diligence just as h said, but if any individual is likely to have contacts inside our FO, then Lombo would have to be high on that list.
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