Crowell gets second round tender
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We don't have to put up with peccadilloes from players.
Nice word. Is that a similar genus and species as armadillos?
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We don't have to put up with peccadilloes from players.
Nice word. Is that a similar genus and species as armadillos?
We don't have to put up with peccadilloes from players.
Nice word. Is that a similar genus and species as armadillos?
It's a crossbreed of a peccary and an armadillo. Only found at the border of West Texas and East Texas I think.
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We don't have to put up with peccadilloes from players.
Nice word. Is that a similar genus and species as armadillos?
It's a crossbreed of a peccary and an armadillo. Only found at the border of West Texas and East Texas I think.
It's a crossbreed of a peccary and an armadillo. Only found at the border of West Texas and East Texas I think.
I would have thought they would be found in Memphis as well.
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@ghoolie said:
That would be pecadildoes. Those are prominent in Cleveland, and on this board.
Yes, I see you!
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@ghoolie said:
Unlike most of us "peons" Crowell has no guarantee of a sustainable career. He is young once. He has a healthy body once. His asking price is not unreasonable. How many fucking players do you jackoffs want to lose?
Now, I can see if the fucking team was in a money crunch, but ah, that isn't exactly the case, is it?
The guy is one of the best players on the team. the money is a pittance against the cap. Why do the Browns constantly fuck around with talent, put a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and then wonder why nobody wants to fucking play in Cleveland?
Pay the guy for fuck's sake.
& How would you know what he (meaning his agent) are asking? Every team in the NFL has had the same opportunity to shell out that $2.7 million, and declined because they've decided that he's not worth it and a second round draft pick. You can get someone in the second round next week (or lower) who will probably be at least as good, or better- and a whole lot cheaper. A guy like Adrian Peterson in his prime would already have been snapped up. Speaking of AP, he's still looking for work. It's a cruel business, and the Browns are offering market value.
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@ghoolie said:
I would do as I always do, I would come in here every time they won and take my medicine. I want you to pay close attention buddy, it isn't ME, who doesn't show up. Every time the flock of fucktards here has to watch my predictions unfold, as they generally do, it is the vox pop who doesn't show up, and then when they do, fabricate some horseshit explanation about why I was right but not for the correct reasons.
Historically, you should know by now, I am no coward nor am I afraid to eat crow. I dish it, I take it. It doesn't fucking matter to me. Have I been wrong? Not often, really, not often. I am a cocky fucker, I get it, but I am pretty much dead on.
The drafting of Trubisky, and then the big dude from Clemson, Williams, is it? THAT woudl give the Browns a 5 win season and a foundation to build. But Garrett and Black Tarkenton? Totaly horseshit picks. That will bring us 0 - 1 - 19.
Logic tells you this team is in trouble. Garrett would be a guaranteed losing season. And edge rusher is just not that critical for a 1 - 19 team. THe Browns won't beat a division rival again. so you have 6 guaranteed loses right out of the gun. You have 6 teams who have a decided edge over the browns and 6 more losses are likely there. In 2017, the Browns wins will come from a pool of 4 games. Now, if they grow to be a .500 team by those games, the they will go 2- 2. This makes them a 2 - 14 regular season record. If they get an " on any give Sunday win? Okay, they could have a lombardi 3 - 13 type blast.
The 2016 draft was a bust. You know it was. The team made the same mistakes and showed no sign of improvement all year long. Hue.s decisions and clock management was likely shit all year long. You think an off season will correct that? Hue left no foundation Gip. Everything in 2017 is being built on ashes.
If they get breaks, they could go 3 - 13. Either way, Hue is gone.
Well, much of what you say may be right. You know I have been on the Trubisky train.
Taking both he and Mike William IS intriguing.
I agree that just one defensive player will not make all that much difference.....but 4-5 could, and this team needs 4-5 defensive player.
Also....I think you overestimate the rest of the team's in this division. While perhaps they may be somewhat better than the Browns, I don't think any of them are all that good. The Steelers do have three good players on offense that DO make a difference.
Hence the intrigue in the Trubisky/Williams suggestion.
Ravens? losing it.
Bengals may actually end up worse than the Browns, believe it or not.
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@ghoolie said:
I would do as I always do, I would come in here every time they won and take my medicine. I want you to pay close attention buddy, it isn't ME, who doesn't show up. Every time the flock of fucktards here has to watch my predictions unfold, as they generally do, it is the vox pop who doesn't show up, and then when they do, fabricate some horseshit explanation about why I was right but not for the correct reasons.
Historically, you should know by now, I am no coward nor am I afraid to eat crow. I dish it, I take it. It doesn't fucking matter to me. Have I been wrong? Not often, really, not often. I am a cocky fucker, I get it, but I am pretty much dead on.
The drafting of Trubisky, and then the big dude from Clemson, Williams, is it? THAT woudl give the Browns a 5 win season and a foundation to build. But Garrett and Black Tarkenton? Totaly horseshit picks. That will bring us 0 - 1 - 19.
Logic tells you this team is in trouble. Garrett would be a guaranteed losing season. And edge rusher is just not that critical for a 1 - 19 team. THe Browns won't beat a division rival again. so you have 6 guaranteed loses right out of the gun. You have 6 teams who have a decided edge over the browns and 6 more losses are likely there. In 2017, the Browns wins will come from a pool of 4 games. Now, if they grow to be a .500 team by those games, the they will go 2- 2. This makes them a 2 - 14 regular season record. If they get an " on any give Sunday win? Okay, they could have a lombardi 3 - 13 type blast.
The 2016 draft was a bust. You know it was. The team made the same mistakes and showed no sign of improvement all year long. Hue.s decisions and clock management was likely shit all year long. You think an off season will correct that? Hue left no foundation Gip. Everything in 2017 is being built on ashes.
If they get breaks, they could go 3 - 13. Either way, Hue is gone.
Well, much of what you say may be right. You know I have been on the Trubisky train.
Taking both he and Mike William IS intriguing.
I agree that just one defensive player will not make all that much difference.....but 4-5 could, and this team needs 4-5 defensive player.
Also....I think you overestimate the rest of the team's in this division. While perhaps they may be somewhat better than the Browns, I don't think any of them are all that good. The Steelers do have three good players on offense that DO make a difference.
Hence the intrigue in the Trubisky/Williams suggestion.
Ravens? losing it.
Bengals may actually end up worse than the Browns, believe it or not.
Well, much of what you say may be right. You know I have been on the Trubisky train.
Taking both he and Mike William IS intriguing.
I agree that just one defensive player will not make all that much difference.....but 4-5 could, and this team needs 4-5 defensive player.
Also....I think you overestimate the rest of the team's in this division. While perhaps they may be somewhat better than the Browns, I don't think any of them are all that good. The Steelers do have three good players on offense that DO make a difference.
Hence the intrigue in the Trubisky/Williams suggestion.
Ravens? losing it.
Bengals may actually end up worse than the Browns, believe it or not.
Regarding the Bengals being worse than the Browns this year, I'm predicting it. Their drafting studs ended with AJ Green. Plenty of mediocrity since. 2016 season they let their #2 and #3 WRs Marvin Jones and Mohamed Sanu walk, and they compounded it this year letting LT Witworth and top guard Zeitler go, and Zeitler is on the Browns now.
We'll see if Ghoolie's hypothesis OL are a bunch of unskilled fat asses rings true- because what the Bengals have left is pure crap. Dalton will be running for his life.
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Well, much of what you say may be right. You know I have been on the Trubisky train.
Taking both he and Mike William IS intriguing.
I agree that just one defensive player will not make all that much difference.....but 4-5 could, and this team needs 4-5 defensive player.
Also....I think you overestimate the rest of the team's in this division. While perhaps they may be somewhat better than the Browns, I don't think any of them are all that good. The Steelers do have three good players on offense that DO make a difference.
Hence the intrigue in the Trubisky/Williams suggestion.
Ravens? losing it.
Bengals may actually end up worse than the Browns, believe it or not.
Regarding the Bengals being worse than the Browns this year, I'm predicting it. Their drafting studs ended with AJ Green. Plenty of mediocrity since. 2016 season they let their #2 and #3 WRs Marvin Jones and Mohamed Sanu walk, and they compounded it this year letting LT Witworth and top guard Zeitler go, and Zeitler is on the Browns now.
We'll see if Ghoolie's hypothesis OL are a bunch of unskilled fat asses rings true- because what the Bengals have left is pure crap. Dalton will be running for his life.
We'll see if Ghoolie's hypothesis OL are a bunch of unskilled fat asses rings true- because what the Bengals have left is pure crap. Dalton will be running for his life.
And won't it be fun watching Garrett, Collins and Ogbah chasing him down!!??
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Meanwhile back at the Crow...
I smell hold-out...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I guess the Browns may be drafting a kid as insurance.
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Cook in the second round
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I smell hold-out...
Smells of a draft day trade..even smells like a Jaguar or Panther(opens door for Howard pick at 8)? just not a Raven(again)..we love second rounders. that would make it what 5 2nd's in 2 years? You almost can't draft a Top RB for less money than Crow right now
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Smells of a draft day trade..even smells like a Jaguar or Panther(opens door for Howard pick at 8)? just not a Raven(again)..we love second rounders. that would make it what 5 2nd's in 2 years? You almost can't draft a Top RB for less money than Crow right now
Can you trade a player not under contract?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Im not sure.....but Id think you could trade his rights?....right?....
Bottom line tho....he will sign somewhere.....and when he does, either we get a 2nd or we can trade him....or keep him....
Id like to keep him.....but, no matter how it goes, tapping a UDFA, getting 3 years of positive production from him, then getting a 2nd....is a pretty good turn....
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Smells of a draft day trade..even smells like a Jaguar or Panther(opens door for Howard pick at 8)? just not a Raven(again)..we love second rounders. that would make it what 5 2nd's in 2 years? You almost can't draft a Top RB for less money than Crow right now
Can you trade a player not under contract?
Can you trade a player not under contract?
I'd have to check the Jamar Taylor trade (believe same contract issue) but Crow will sign it if trade is in his mind..Honestly he's another I believe "wants out Himself"..the cop issue did not sit well with Jackson. But handled Well in office..Am with Mud, rinse,wash,repeat should begin with "keep your own you made" but Don't let-- Pay the Man!! keep getting in the way..At Least act like you own 51M in cap
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Im not sure.....but Id think you could trade his rights?....right?....
Bottom line tho....he will sign somewhere.....and when he does, either we get a 2nd or we can trade him....or keep him....
Id like to keep him.....but, no matter how it goes, tapping a UDFA, getting 3 years of positive production from him, then getting a 2nd....is a pretty good turn....
Im not sure.....but Id think you could trade his rights?....right?....
Cool... then trade his rights... for a 2nd...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Can you trade a player not under contract?
I'd have to check the Jamar Taylor trade (believe same contract issue) but Crow will sign it if trade is in his mind..Honestly he's another I believe "wants out Himself"..the cop issue did not sit well with Jackson. But handled Well in office..Am with Mud, rinse,wash,repeat should begin with "keep your own you made" but Don't let-- Pay the Man!! keep getting in the way..At Least act like you own 51M in cap
I'd have to check the Jamar Taylor trade (believe same contract issue) but Crow will sign it if trade is in his mind..Honestly he's another I believe "wants out Himself"..the cop issue did not sit well with Jackson. But handled Well in office..Am with Mud, rinse,wash,repeat should begin with "keep your own you made" but Don't let-- Pay the Man!! keep getting in the way
Ah... the "beheading post"... I'd forgotten about that... but in part I had because he addressed it so quickly and worked to make amends... literally IIRC.
I just think the second round tender was an error. It was never a route to establishing his market value... but then in saying that I am presupposing we want to keep him.
After all... fat-ass RBs are a dime a dozen...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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I'd have to check the Jamar Taylor trade (believe same contract issue) but Crow will sign it if trade is in his mind..Honestly he's another I believe "wants out Himself"..the cop issue did not sit well with Jackson. But handled Well in office..Am with Mud, rinse,wash,repeat should begin with "keep your own you made" but Don't let-- Pay the Man!! keep getting in the way
Ah... the "beheading post"... I'd forgotten about that... but in part I had because he addressed it so quickly and worked to make amends... literally IIRC.
I just think the second round tender was an error. It was never a route to establishing his market value... but then in saying that I am presupposing we want to keep him.
After all... fat-ass RBs are a dime a dozen...
I just think the second round tender was an error. It was never a route to establishing his market value...
TouchDown!!^^Money Ball we have your Agent on line 1..
After all... NON-BALANCED, VISION-LESS fat-ass RBs are a dime a dozen...
FIFY
..long haired cornrowed hippy people,need not apply
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