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  • poplarbluffman P
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    P poplarbluffman wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.nfldraftresearch.com/

    do a board based on character/passion...have coached for over 20 years..son was an all American in soccer just know the best athlete isn't the one who usually succeeds in sports

    In my world character/passion equal 50% or more who succeeds or fails...spend that much time reading bios, looking at college majors, watching interviews and looking at prospect facebook/instagram posts to put together my list.....expect to find some players out of orders vs other boards that just use game tape

    also post my list of the 60 who will succeed..1/3 of 1st will fail ., 1/2 of 2nd and it only gets worse..

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      A bit confused here... answering the following may help me....

      You have only 2 QBs in your top 60, Mahomes in group 1 and Peterman in group2, yet in your longer list you have Watson as the first QB at #15, then Mahomes at #24.

      If the 60 are your top, how does someone get higher than them in the long list?

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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        P poplarbluffman wrote on last edited by poplarbluffman
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        top 300 is based on ranking/character more a generic ranking

        top 60 is based on pff stats who end up becoming above avg starters each year and the round they were drafted.in. maybe 20 in rd one maybe 20 in rds 2 &3 and 20 from rds 4-udfa will ever become above avg starters after rd 4/udfa might only have 5/6 kids who will avg becoming above avg starters out of 700 kids...look to see what traits previous later rd picks had that helped them make it and look for those traits in this years draft

        some of those QB's will be drafted higher then Peterson but IMO has a better chance to develop into a solid starter...best passer in tight windows and a personality that is very similar to Kurt Warner

        called Dak Prescott a foxhole player and a winner last year and had a 4/5 qb's ranked higher

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          And inquiring minds want to know what does Foster's recent "overhydrating" incident and early trip home from the combine do for his high ratings on the lists?

          Just for fun I will include your lists with a couple other better known ones I use when watching the draft unfold.

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            don't confuse high character players with passionate players. both will succeed in the NFL just some guys are borderline nuts who love the game....Foster is one. He is football..like watching Butkus ...Westbrook is another. The crazies jump out at you when they watch them play...Stefon Diggs succeed as a 5th rd pick..very rare..but team captain, kicked out one game for hitting a ref, refused to shake hands with Penn st players at coin toss...good not great combine but played, lives, with a chip on his shoulder. Love guys like him...

            passion and character both matter...like to find high character kids with passion but sometimes just get passion

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              Thanks for the reply... it helped...

              On "character"... what sources are available to the general public that you use for your determinations?

              "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                Thanks for the reply... it helped...

                On "character"... what sources are available to the general public that you use for your determinations?

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                @tour2ma said:

                Thanks for the reply... it helped...

                On "character"... what sources are available to the general public that you use for your determinations?

                I always start at a players bio before I ever look at them playing...incredible amount of info...any relatives played in NFL/NBA? college major, any academic awards. leadership awards...then I do a search looking for interviews either on internet or on youtube. quick way to find if a guy is an extrovert or introvert...how verbal/quick thinking the kids are...instagram is gives you a peak in what these kids think is important. Some show their degrees others show off their tatoos. ditto facebook or twitter I always look to see who are their friends on social media because we are our friends

                ends up a lot of work but some of these kids are so special as people you find yourself rooting for them wherever they end up...just so much more fun then just looking at some highlight tape...also want to had if you have time to watch entire games watch how they react when a teammate makes a play. Have seen some olineman with character issues run 40 yards to high five a teammate who just scored... Had Roby Rated higher then D Dennard because of character. Saw Roby run his butt off to catch a wr on the other side of the field never saw anything like that with Dennard

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Thanks for the reply... it helped...

                  On "character"... what sources are available to the general public that you use for your determinations?

                  I always start at a players bio before I ever look at them playing...incredible amount of info...any relatives played in NFL/NBA? college major, any academic awards. leadership awards...then I do a search looking for interviews either on internet or on youtube. quick way to find if a guy is an extrovert or introvert...how verbal/quick thinking the kids are...instagram is gives you a peak in what these kids think is important. Some show their degrees others show off their tatoos. ditto facebook or twitter I always look to see who are their friends on social media because we are our friends

                  ends up a lot of work but some of these kids are so special as people you find yourself rooting for them wherever they end up...just so much more fun then just looking at some highlight tape...also want to had if you have time to watch entire games watch how they react when a teammate makes a play. Have seen some olineman with character issues run 40 yards to high five a teammate who just scored... Had Roby Rated higher then D Dennard because of character. Saw Roby run his butt off to catch a wr on the other side of the field never saw anything like that with Dennard

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @poplarbluffman said:

                  I always start at a players bio before I ever look at them playing...incredible amount of info...

                  Bunch more than I thought... nice...

                  Funny that yesterday I posted a link to a slide show of the 2016 NFL Starting QBs majors.

                  http://sportschatter.com/sports-talk/slideshow/college-major-every-quarterback-nfl/

                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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