Have they learned their lesson?
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Once again the browns have top picks. once again the dumb fans are wanting another qb. But have the browns learned there lesson. Plan and simple lol the qbs in this draft suck and will fail. Massive reach and taking one before the fourth round is a wasted pick. So have they learned there lesson.
Once again the browns have top picks. once again the dumb fans are wanting another qb. But have the browns learned there lesson. Plan and simple lol the qbs in this draft suck and will fail. Massive reach and taking one before the fourth round is a wasted pick. So have they learned there lesson.
So....you think that the Browns should never try to get a good QB.
I mean, I guess it is true that the 1990 Giants, the 2000 Ravens and the 2002 Buccaneers won a championship without "good" QBs.
Of course, that method is vastly in the minority when it comes to building championship caliber teams.
But, if that is the method the Browns choose to follow, then they just need to say so, so as not to have their fans operating under the belief that acquiring a franchise type QB is important to them. It would remove a lot of fans heartache over the issue, even if it would not remove the second guessing.
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I must be dumb because I want a QB... but you guys are oh so much smarter and want this POS.
We should draft the guy who couldn't beat out Marquise Williams, a QB who is now on the street.
We should draft the guy who couldn't beat out Marquise Williams, a QB who is now on the street.
Means nothing. Tom Brady wasn't first string at all. Tony Romo only got his chance because of injury. There are plenty of other examples.
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Once again the browns have top picks. once again the dumb fans are wanting another qb. But have the browns learned there lesson. Plan and simple lol the qbs in this draft suck and will fail. Massive reach and taking one before the fourth round is a wasted pick. So have they learned there lesson.
Once again the browns have top picks. once again the dumb fans are wanting another qb. But have the browns learned there lesson. Plan and simple lol the qbs in this draft suck and will fail. Massive reach and taking one before the fourth round is a wasted pick. So have they learned there lesson.
So I assume you've watched hours of tape on all the quarterbacks like the Front office has done, interviewed them. and come to the conclusion that they all suck?
The same fans that wanted little johnny and rg3. They want a qb so bad they can't stand it. Instead of fixing what they can on the rest of the team and letting it come organically.
For the record, I didn't want either of those bums, and I almost threw up when they drafted Johnny. Yup, we're going to fix the rest of the team, and just like the Steelers the next Ben Rothlisberger is going to fall into our lap @ #9 or so. Maybe we'll get even luckier and find another Derek Carr in the second. FWIW, I'm damn tired of counting on luck.
If they jump for Trubs @ #1 his name will be Shitski and next year at this time he will be walking the the streets with all the other brains in the FO.
Edit: nickers-when we select Garrett send him the article to post on his locker door. He will read it there every day.
Now you know Ag I really want Mitch- just not @#1, or #2 or #3 either.
We haven't drafted a qb high since Couch. Trubs is generally considered the best qb prospect by many observers- it's time to roll the dice. Or would you rather have to sell the farm to get Darnold next year? -
The same fans that wanted little johnny and rg3. They want a qb so bad they can't stand it. Instead of fixing what they can on the rest of the team and letting it come organically.
The same fans that wanted little johnny and rg3. They want a qb so bad they can't stand it. Instead of fixing what they can on the rest of the team and letting it come organically.
I love a good "same fans" argument... especially in rebuttal to a "there aren't that many" reply.
These Browns didn't draft jm. These Browns didn't draft RGIII, just signed him to give him a chance. Different front office now. They don't have to learn THEIR lesson. There.
Ed Zackery... and the cool thing? Sashi was around when those trainwrecks happened to see them happen and know the how and why of them happening. He simply wasn't in a position to stop them, if he saw them coming, but regardless... now he is in THE position to keep us from going down that road again.
I must be dumb because I want a QB... but you guys are oh so much smarter and want this POS.
Dumb? No... Mistaken?
It's a difference of opinion... no biggee... unless you want to make it one. From your other post it seems you are latched onto his "play in Dallas" comment... the comment he's since retracted/explained away 20 different ways 'til Sunday. Most of it simply let it go... that's all.
Yes annd remember where you heard it.. Garrett will be playing in Dallas when his rookie contract expires...Book it.. He DOES NOT want to be in Cleveland... And you'll all be crying like bitches...
Preserved for shits & giggles...
Means nothing. Tom Brady wasn't first string at all. Tony Romo only got his chance because of injury. There are plenty of other examples.
True statement... give or take 25 starts. His starting record at Michigan? 20-5...
Thanks for playing our game.
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Once again the browns have top picks. once again the dumb fans are wanting another qb. But have the browns learned there lesson. Plan and simple lol the qbs in this draft suck and will fail. Massive reach and taking one before the fourth round is a wasted pick. So have they learned there lesson.
So I assume you've watched hours of tape on all the quarterbacks like the Front office has done, interviewed them. and come to the conclusion that they all suck?
The same fans that wanted little johnny and rg3. They want a qb so bad they can't stand it. Instead of fixing what they can on the rest of the team and letting it come organically.
For the record, I didn't want either of those bums, and I almost threw up when they drafted Johnny. Yup, we're going to fix the rest of the team, and just like the Steelers the next Ben Rothlisberger is going to fall into our lap @ #9 or so. Maybe we'll get even luckier and find another Derek Carr in the second. FWIW, I'm damn tired of counting on luck.
If they jump for Trubs @ #1 his name will be Shitski and next year at this time he will be walking the the streets with all the other brains in the FO.
Edit: nickers-when we select Garrett send him the article to post on his locker door. He will read it there every day.
Now you know Ag I really want Mitch- just not @#1, or #2 or #3 either.
We haven't drafted a qb high since Couch. Trubs is generally considered the best qb prospect by many observers- it's time to roll the dice. Or would you rather have to sell the farm to get Darnold next year?Now you know Ag I really want Mitch- just not @#1, or #2 or #3 either.
We haven't drafted a qb high since Couch. Trubs is generally considered the best qb prospect by many observers- it's time to roll the dice. Or would you rather have to sell the farm to get Darnold next year?If we take him @12 I won't cry, but don't sell out the defensive draft of this year to get the best of a below average group of QB's.
If we have a great group of players in need of a QB, then sure, spend it for a jump for either Darnold or Rosen, both of whom are far better than any I have seen in this draft. Seems that has worked for other teams, so why not the Browns.
Edit-nickers no need to catastrophize this many years out. The guy wants to be part of a turnaround and is loyal to a fault once he is committed. Besides I'm counting on you to be in his ear from day one about the Dog Pound. He's already mentioned playing for it.
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If the Browns take a QB early then it'll be a new thing, people act like they've taken QBs early all the time. Quinn, Weeden and Manziel were late first round picks.
If the Browns take a QB early then it'll be a new thing, people act like they've taken QBs early all the time. Quinn, Weeden and Manziel were late first round picks.
If I have to chose QB or DE at one, I have to take the QB. Don't understand how taking one of three QB's at one is a reach, when 2 and maybe 3 QB's may go top 10.
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If the Browns take a QB early then it'll be a new thing, people act like they've taken QBs early all the time. Quinn, Weeden and Manziel were late first round picks.
If I have to chose QB or DE at one, I have to take the QB. Don't understand how taking one of three QB's at one is a reach, when 2 and maybe 3 QB's may go top 10.
If I have to chose QB or DE at one, I have to take the QB. Don't understand how taking one of three QB's at one is a reach, when 2 and maybe 3 QB's may go top 10.
My point is the learned their lesson comment, the Browns have NOT reached for QBs, they've waited.
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My point is the learned their lesson comment, the Browns have NOT reached for QBs, they've waited.
Or.....another perspective....
They passed with their early picks(which they did every time) BECAUSE they knew there wasnt a good one there......THEN they reached with their second pick, because wtf....we had 2 to burn....
Thats really how it went down.....
Thats the reason we drafted Richardson ahead of Weeds.....Gilbert ahead of Johnny.....Thomas ahead of Quinn.....and, yes, the same kind of reach happened last year, when we tapped a 6th rounder in the 3rd.....
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My point is the learned their lesson comment, the Browns have NOT reached for QBs, they've waited.
Or.....another perspective....
They passed with their early picks(which they did every time) BECAUSE they knew there wasnt a good one there......THEN they reached with their second pick, because wtf....we had 2 to burn....
Thats really how it went down.....
Thats the reason we drafted Richardson ahead of Weeds.....Gilbert ahead of Johnny.....Thomas ahead of Quinn.....and, yes, the same kind of reach happened last year, when we tapped a 6th rounder in the 3rd.....
Thats the reason we drafted Richardson ahead of Weeds.....Gilbert ahead of Johnny.....Thomas ahead of Quinn.....and, yes, the same kind of reach happened last year, when we tapped a 6th rounder in the 3rd.....
Dont agree here, every team has a different board. Hackenberg round 2 for Jets has others saying WTF, Garrett Grayson round 3, Jacoby Brisset? QBs polarise opinion, if you like one like we did Kessler, then take them. There is no wait a round, it only exists inside of the media/fan perception.
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So for you QB proponents, Are you sold completely that one of these guys is a #1 pick talent? If you answe yes surely you are telling me that person can start game one and roll? Are you telling me they are clearly better than next years QB class? I agree we need a QB but you don't spend #1 unless he's a lock.
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Thats the reason we drafted Richardson ahead of Weeds.....Gilbert ahead of Johnny.....Thomas ahead of Quinn.....and, yes, the same kind of reach happened last year, when we tapped a 6th rounder in the 3rd.....
Dont agree here, every team has a different board. Hackenberg round 2 for Jets has others saying WTF, Garrett Grayson round 3, Jacoby Brisset? QBs polarise opinion, if you like one like we did Kessler, then take them. There is no wait a round, it only exists inside of the media/fan perception.
Dont agree here, every team has a different board. Hackenberg round 2 for Jets has others saying WTF, Garrett Grayson round 3, Jacoby Brisset? QBs polarise opinion, if you like one like we did Kessler, then take them. There is no wait a round, it only exists inside of the media/fan perception.
Didnt you just say we wait?.....and now there is no waiting?
Im confused....
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Phillip Rivers, Cam Newton and Drew Brees are picking before the Browns at 12 in this draft. Trevor Siemian, Brock Ossweiler and Alex Smith are in the second half. Enough of this QB is all that matters BULLSHIT, it's killing this franchise and the local media are driving it
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Dont agree here, every team has a different board. Hackenberg round 2 for Jets has others saying WTF, Garrett Grayson round 3, Jacoby Brisset? QBs polarise opinion, if you like one like we did Kessler, then take them. There is no wait a round, it only exists inside of the media/fan perception.
Didnt you just say we wait?.....and now there is no waiting?
Im confused....
Didnt you just say we wait?.....and now there is no waiting?
Im confused....
I am saying there is no we took a Qb three rounds early, they liked him so they took him, only people outside the Browns say it was early. Who really knows?
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I can't speak for all Browns fans but I am just saying that I am so sick and tired of us drafting a QB and if it is not instant success then they want another then another then another and same with a coach. Hand Kessler the build up our D keys to the kingdom and see what happens, give him some weapons and protection and build up our D.
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I can't speak for all Browns fans but I am just saying that I am so sick and tired of us drafting a QB and if it is not instant success then they want another then another then another and same with a coach. Hand Kessler the build up our D keys to the kingdom and see what happens, give him some weapons and protection and build up our D.
I can't speak for all Browns fans but I am just saying that I am so sick and tired of us drafting a QB and if it is not instant success then they want another then another then another and same with a coach. Hand Kessler the build up our D keys to the kingdom and see what happens, give him some weapons and protection and build up our D.
I am shocked at the lack of respect for Kessler, he performed more than admirably last season i a horrible situation. I bet he has a long and good career in the NFL
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I agree. Not like we had a decent number 1 wide out. I liked Pryor but let's face it, he would not be a number 1 on a lot of teams. A good number 2 guy at best. And now we will have a over the hill Kenny Britt smh. STILL NEED A #1 WIDE OUT.
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I am saying there is no we took a Qb three rounds early...
Yes there is.....and it's called "a reach"....that is the definition......when you draft someone lower than everyone else thinks they should go.....it's considered a reach....simple...
And now we will have a over the hill Kenny Britt smh.
The good news is that we only guaranteed him double what we guaranteed Bowe.....so he's an over the hill bargain
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I agree. Not like we had a decent number 1 wide out. I liked Pryor but let's face it, he would not be a number 1 on a lot of teams. A good number 2 guy at best. And now we will have a over the hill Kenny Britt smh. STILL NEED A #1 WIDE OUT.
I agree. Not like we had a decent number 1 wide out. I liked Pryor but let's face it, he would not be a number 1 on a lot of teams. A good number 2 guy at best. And now we will have a over the hill Kenny Britt smh. STILL NEED A #1 WIDE OUT.
A lot of times last year we lined up with just two WRs and everyone else blocking, an upgraded line was priority in FA and the draft will be defense. A good move, the receivers drafted last year WILL be better this year. I really like Britt, he has done well enough considering Jeff Fisher has been his HC most of his career. These guys have a plan, the local media are dinosaurs that hate the fact their inside leaks have been blocked and if they aren't controversial or damn right insulting, nobody outside of Ohio reads their articles. It's a really shit situation for the organisation, it will take a lot of thick skin and patience my worry is Haslam doesn't have that. They haven't even made the pick and it's crazy everywhere, give them a fucking chance.
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I am saying there is no we took a Qb three rounds early...
Yes there is.....and it's called "a reach"....that is the definition......when you draft someone lower than everyone else thinks they should go.....it's considered a reach....simple...
And now we will have a over the hill Kenny Britt smh.
The good news is that we only guaranteed him double what we guaranteed Bowe.....so he's an over the hill bargain
Yes there is.....and it's called "a reach"....that is the definition......when you draft someone lower than everyone else thinks they should go.....it's considered a reach....simple...
It wasn't a reach in the Browns war room, that's all that matters. Just like Jordan Richards to the Pats in round two in 2015 wasn't a reach to them, he was barely a day three guy to any pre draft mocks etc if I recall correctly. There is no such thing as a reach or a steal, your board is YOUR board. A few years down the line it can be scrutinised, but not when the pick is made.
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