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  • The Njoku grades are ridiculous he is awesome

    TE and safety are premium positions in today's NFL

  • Well....slept on it.....hungover....and still dont hate it as much as I did last night.....

    Peppers though, when we could have had ANY FS in the draft??.....I was praying for a FS (or maybe Adams at SS)....but got the one "safety" I didnt want(how did this happen?).....so for that trade back and then the pick of Peppers....blech...............(but I am happy we got a returner)....

    Also surprised the Browns went for someone who failed their drug test......since it happened at the combine, that means he enters the league as a member of the drug program(1 strike)....(Cal?...how did this happen?)

    I guess the TE looks Ok.....not as good as Howard, who we had in our hands......

    And Yeah....another wait till we trade it next year pick....

    Kinda feels like last year to me....pass the best ones for capital and questionable....

  • I haven't heard the name Mark Barron brought up at all. I'd imagine Williams will use Peppers like he did Barron.

    Njoku is a really bad blocker at the moment but I do see effort in that department and that's a start. I think he needs to add some weight.

    @wargograw said:

    I haven't heard the name Mark Barron brought up at all. I'd imagine Williams will use Peppers like he did Barron.

    That's what I told Williams when I met him 😉

  • @nickers said:

    This whole draft gets an F for EPIC FAIL!

    I've calmed down Nickers- right now it's at a B- for me. Garrett was a no brainer. Not saying Peppers and Njoku are bad picks, but we could have done better. We needed a CB badly, and by trading down from #12 we got skunked there. As Tour mentioned, a lot of talent is going to come off the board before our pick comes up @ #52. Or maybe they'll stop amassing and use some of those 2018 picks to move back up in the second. Who knows?

    @hoorta said:

    I've calmed down Nickers- right now it's at a B- for me. Garrett was a no brainer. Not saying Peppers and Njoku are bad picks, but we could have done better. We needed a CB badly, and by trading down from #12 we got skunked there. As Tour mentioned, a lot of talent is going to come off the board before our pick comes up @ #52. Or maybe they'll stop amassing and use some of those 2018 picks to move back up in the second. Who knows?

    There's a lot of depth at CB

  • I agree that Williams got the two he wanted most. Part of the deal coming here so I will not bitch. And Njoku will help open up the field for all those wr's we took last year and has one of the strongest upsides out there IMO. DeValve can start selling shoes now.

    52 & 65 makes it or breaks it for me. Lots of excellent players will be there at those spots.

  • Fans hate trade downs and the Seattle Seahawks love them. I know which side I'm on

  • USA Today all 32 grades. Excellent write ups on all 3 Browns.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-grades-picks-analysis-results

  • Tour- I was crying in my beer (not really- haven't had anything to drink tonight) so bad after the Bears took Mitch. BTW, that champagne is still on ice. I didn't bother to look at the national reaction to Da Bears move. Hey- I'm over it, he's playing for the Bears. We would have gotten blasted even worse if we had moved up to #2. I didn't discount that as a faint Browns possibility.

    We'll see how Da Biskit fares. I saw one group did give Peppers an F. This reeks of a Williams "request". If anyone can figure out how to use him it's our DC.

    At least on the BIG plus side, no Mahomes, no Watson. Me and the Ghoul had a similar opinion of his pro potential. Two bums down, a bunch to go. We both don't want Kizer, and unfortunately he still may be there @ #52. The only other qb I'm 1\2 interested in as a project is Dobbs. My bet is Kelly is off the Browns board as a character risk.

    Besides the Bears move, the biggest reach was KC going up for Mahomes. Maybe we should tell London- that thar was a HUGE reach.

    @hoorta said:

    Tour- I was crying in my beer (not really- haven't had anything to drink tonight) so bad after the Bears took Mitch. BTW, that champagne is still on ice.

    My bet is Kelly is off the Browns board as a character risk.

    Besides the Bears move, the biggest reach was KC going up for Mahomes. Maybe we should tell London- that thar was a HUGE reach.

    Well at least you weren't crying in a nice champagne... welcome back...

    Kinda agree with Kelly assessment. As with Foster he's a multiple-strike prospect. The differences? Whereas Foster had at least three and two are recent, Kelly has two and only one, his latest injury, is recent. There is one other difference of course: Price. So I still hold out some of my Kelly hope as no one left has more potential and tools than he. Then again... Kaaya looks talented and squeaky clean...

    Trubs' "grades" are not just on him, they're on the Bears and the price they paid. You're right... we'd have gotten hammered doing even more to tab him... or passing on MG.

    Mahomes... I don't see him either, but it's like you've said, if you see the QB you want, then you go get him. I will say that Mahomes fits nicely in their scheme behind Smith.

    @wargograw said:

    I haven't heard the name Mark Barron brought up at all. I'd imagine Williams will use Peppers like he did Barron.

    Njoku is a really bad blocker at the moment but I do see effort in that department and that's a start. I think he needs to add some weight.

    At 20, he'll undoubtably add weight. Does seem to "want to" block, just not sure how.

    No doubt that OJH was at the top of this TE class, but it's just possible he's as good as he will ever be, while Njoku has a higher ceiling.

    @mudfly said:

    Well....slept on it.....hungover....and still dont hate it as much as I did last night.....

    Yeah... kinda has this grow-on-you, fungus quality...

  • I agree that Williams got the two he wanted most. Part of the deal coming here so I will not bitch. And Njoku will help open up the field for all those wr's we took last year and has one of the strongest upsides out there IMO. DeValve can start selling shoes now.

    52 & 65 makes it or breaks it for me. Lots of excellent players will be there at those spots.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I agree that Williams got the two he wanted most. Part of the deal coming here so I will not bitch. And Njoku will help open up the field for all those wr's we took last year and has one of the strongest upsides out there IMO. DeValve can start selling shoes now.

    52 & 65 makes it or breaks it for me. Lots of excellent players will be there at those spots.

    Devalve of Telfer? I still think we will do something to fill that yuge gap between 3.01 and 5.01...

    @texasag1969 said:

    USA Today all 32 grades. Excellent write ups on all 3 Browns.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-grades-picks-analysis-results

    Love MG even more... and hate CHI's move even more.

  • I agree that Williams got the two he wanted most. Part of the deal coming here so I will not bitch. And Njoku will help open up the field for all those wr's we took last year and has one of the strongest upsides out there IMO. DeValve can start selling shoes now.

    52 & 65 makes it or breaks it for me. Lots of excellent players will be there at those spots.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I agree that Williams got the two he wanted most. Part of the deal coming here so I will not bitch. And Njoku will help open up the field for all those wr's we took last year and has one of the strongest upsides out there IMO. DeValve can start selling shoes now.

    52 & 65 makes it or breaks it for me. Lots of excellent players will be there at those spots.

    Devalve will likely still be here. Guys like Telfer can sell shoes. (and even if they did let DeValve go...the dude went to Princeton. Do you really think he would end up selling shoes..or insurance? No)

  • Looks like Jimmy's homeless buddy hopped a slow freight to Chicago!!! 😵

    Mike

  • Looks like Jimmy's homeless buddy hopped a slow freight to Chicago!!! 😵

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Looks like Jimmy's homeless buddy hopped a slow freight to Chicago!!! 😵

    Mike

    Look, the good thing about the Bears taking MT is that the Browns will not have to play him but once every 4 years, because I think he will turn out great...that is.....unless both teams make the Super Bowl! 😮

    Which...would actually be kind of cool. Like the Indians and Cubs making the World Series...as if that could ever happen.

    Oh wait! That DID just happen.

    So, you never know.

  • Gip,

    I like MT too, but #2 was WAY too high (IMHO).

    Mike

  • Gip,

    I like MT too, but #2 was WAY too high (IMHO).

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Gip,

    I like MT too, but #2 was WAY too high (IMHO).

    Mike

    Apparently not.

  • Draft grades at this point of the season is just stupid.

  • Draft grades at this point of the season is just stupid.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Draft grades at this point of the season is just stupid.

    This, this this.... but most will do it anyway.

  • I still don't get the thought of "how could be draft player at said position when this position is a bigger need?" Look at teams who draft BPA over teams who draft for need and see who typically does better. We got a great TE prospect who most people considered a top 15 or top 20 pick at #29 and we likely sniped him from the Steelers. Great pick.

  • The Njoku grades are ridiculous he is awesome

    TE and safety are premium positions in today's NFL

    @londonbrown said:

    The Njoku grades are ridiculous he is awesome

    TE and safety are premium positions in today's NFL

    Take a glance at the top 15 TE's and tell me how many you see drafted in the first round.

  • Looks like Jimmy's homeless buddy hopped a slow freight to Chicago!!! 😵

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Looks like Jimmy's homeless buddy hopped a slow freight to Chicago!!! 😵

    Mike

    Don't type stuff like that when I'm trying to eat lunch without choking on it when it laughs down the wrong pipe. 😆

  • @londonbrown said:

    The Njoku grades are ridiculous he is awesome

    TE and safety are premium positions in today's NFL

    Take a glance at the top 15 TE's and tell me how many you see drafted in the first round.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Take a glance at the top 15 TE's and tell me how many you see drafted in the first round.

    I don't really care tbh, the game is changing and TEs are more valuable than ever before.