Trubisky
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I think it is all a smokescreen. I don't think a single qb will be off the board by the time the browns pick at #12. SF will trade down to #8 with Carolina. Buffalo will jump up with the Jets. I think the browns will throw an offer out there to move-up, but if it is not within reason they will stay put at 12 and wait for the qb's to fall. No way the jets go qb or the bills. Not with both having "defensive" coaches on the staff. The jets need to win this year for Fowles to keep his job, hence McCown. Bills just re-signed TT to a reasonable contract. They will add someone later but not in the first. NO is tempting due to Brees age, but i think that #32 pick is more likely than the #11. I'll take a stab at how I think it all shakes out:
1.) Cleveland: Myles Garrett
2.) Carolina: Leonard Fournette
3.) Chicago: Solomon Thomas
4.) Jacksonville: Jonathan Allen
5.) Tennessee: Jamal Adams
6.) Buffalo: Marshon Lattimore
7.) LA Chargers: Malik Hooker
8.) San Francisco: Christian McCaffrey
9.) Cincinnati: Reuben Foster
10.) NY Jets; OJ Howard
11.) NO: Hasaan Reddick
12.) Cleveland: Mitchell Trubisky
I have one more crazy scenario. If Hooker, Adams, Trubisky or Allen are still on the board at 12, The browns will take the best Defensive player and then trade with AZ to get the #13 pick. My guess is it takes 33, 5th, and a second rounder next year. It would be completely unexpected but that would be the time to make a deal such as that. AZ seems like the perfect team that would want to trade down especially with that #33 pick that has tons of value. They can still get their WR or DB with that pick.
I think it is all a smokescreen. I don't think a single qb will be off the board by the time the browns pick at #12. SF will trade down to #8 with Carolina. Buffalo will jump up with the Jets. I think the browns will throw an offer out there to move-up, but if it is not within reason they will stay put at 12 and wait for the qb's to fall. No way the jets go qb or the bills. Not with both having "defensive" coaches on the staff. The jets need to win this year for Fowles to keep his job, hence McCown. Bills just re-signed TT to a reasonable contract. They will add someone later but not in the first. NO is tempting due to Brees age, but i think that #32 pick is more likely than the #11. I'll take a stab at how I think it all shakes out:
1.) Cleveland: Myles Garrett
2.) Carolina: Leonard Fournette
3.) Chicago: Solomon Thomas
4.) Jacksonville: Jonathan Allen
5.) Tennessee: Jamal Adams
6.) Buffalo: Marshon Lattimore
7.) LA Chargers: Malik Hooker
8.) San Francisco: Christian McCaffrey
9.) Cincinnati: Reuben Foster
10.) NY Jets; OJ Howard
11.) NO: Hasaan Reddick
12.) Cleveland: Mitchell Trubisky
I have one more crazy scenario. If Hooker, Adams, Trubisky or Allen are still on the board at 12, The browns will take the best Defensive player and then trade with AZ to get the #13 pick. My guess is it takes 33, 5th, and a second rounder next year. It would be completely unexpected but that would be the time to make a deal such as that. AZ seems like the perfect team that would want to trade down especially with that #33 pick that has tons of value. They can still get their WR or DB with that pick.
Not sure about the "crazy", but the movement and picks in the top 12 are well reasoned...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I think it is all a smokescreen. I don't think a single qb will be off the board by the time the browns pick at #12. SF will trade down to #8 with Carolina. Buffalo will jump up with the Jets. I think the browns will throw an offer out there to move-up, but if it is not within reason they will stay put at 12 and wait for the qb's to fall. No way the jets go qb or the bills. Not with both having "defensive" coaches on the staff. The jets need to win this year for Fowles to keep his job, hence McCown. Bills just re-signed TT to a reasonable contract. They will add someone later but not in the first. NO is tempting due to Brees age, but i think that #32 pick is more likely than the #11. I'll take a stab at how I think it all shakes out:
1.) Cleveland: Myles Garrett
2.) Carolina: Leonard Fournette
3.) Chicago: Solomon Thomas
4.) Jacksonville: Jonathan Allen
5.) Tennessee: Jamal Adams
6.) Buffalo: Marshon Lattimore
7.) LA Chargers: Malik Hooker
8.) San Francisco: Christian McCaffrey
9.) Cincinnati: Reuben Foster
10.) NY Jets; OJ Howard
11.) NO: Hasaan Reddick
12.) Cleveland: Mitchell Trubisky
I have one more crazy scenario. If Hooker, Adams, Trubisky or Allen are still on the board at 12, The browns will take the best Defensive player and then trade with AZ to get the #13 pick. My guess is it takes 33, 5th, and a second rounder next year. It would be completely unexpected but that would be the time to make a deal such as that. AZ seems like the perfect team that would want to trade down especially with that #33 pick that has tons of value. They can still get their WR or DB with that pick.
Not sure about the "crazy", but the movement and picks in the top 12 are well reasoned...
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i just heard on the radio that there have been discussions about the 9ers taking Watson at 2 which would be hilarious and great for the Browns.
Smoke to generate a high powered trade down by a QB needy team like the JETS or Bills. SF needs to do what we did last year, trade down to get a lot more picks in the future.
Smoke to generate a high powered trade down by a QB needy team like the JETS or Bills. SF needs to do what we did last year, trade down to get a lot more picks in the future.
I agree, I watched a live stream on YouTube that was centered around what the 49ers should do at 2, and all the niners fans who called in wanted to trade down. The host had to remind everyone that trading down was not an option, and they'd have to pick a player.
Not to say that the fans have any say in what the front office will do, but I'd think if San Fran had they opportunity, they'd love to trade down and acquire more picks. The 49ers are an absolute shit show and they need all the help they can get.
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Sadly, MT was at the Bulls game and the crowd booed him when his face went on the jumbotron. So fuck you Chicago we'll take him back when his rookie contract is up.
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Give the Bears Oz, Kizer and a two second rounders next year and we'll take Trubisky and next years first rounder plus David fucking Putney!
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Sadly, MT was at the Bulls game and the crowd booed him when his face went on the jumbotron. So fuck you Chicago we'll take him back when his rookie contract is up.
Sadly, MT was at the Bulls game and the crowd booed him when his face went on the jumbotron
lol! That is sooo funny. My best buddy is one of those D'uh Bears fans who is boooing the pick as well...... He texted me Friday morning, and I quote: "So this is what it's like to be a Browns fan". lmao.
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Lol
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They presented him with a bulls #10 jersey, I bet that went in the trash He's a Cavs fan dumbasses
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Give the Bears Oz, Kizer and a two second rounders next year and we'll take Trubisky and next years first rounder plus David fucking Putney!
Hey... who poked the fat kid and woke him up?
Must be killing him to be so wrong...
Give the Bears Oz, Kizer and a two second rounders next year and we'll take Trubisky and next years first rounder plus David fucking Putney!
lol
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
They presented him with a bulls #10 jersey, I bet that went in the trash He's a Cavs fan dumbasses
They presented him with a bulls #10 jersey, I bet that went in the trash He's a Cavs fan dumbasses
Not while he's playing in Chicago.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
After the incredible backlash against Trubisky, I get the feeling that he will be successful and this will be one of those "look how little we knew" moments. Oh well, it's funny for now.
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They presented him with a bulls #10 jersey, I bet that went in the trash He's a Cavs fan dumbasses
Not while he's playing in Chicago.
Not while he's playing in public in Chicago.
FIFY
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I might take the Titans deal if it was really a possibility. But I'd be surprised if we did. And if we didn't help pissed off or you're going to be if Trubisky falls to 12, just in case the Jets want one of the other also-rans, or below assuming the Browns didn't really want him?
??? Decoder ring is in the shop for repair...
??? Decoder ring is in the shop for repair...
Sorry Bud. Between the eyes and too lazy to check the speech to text glitches sometimes this crap gets by me.
The hypothetical jaguars pick trade down to four. Which wouldn't have mattered since the bears traded up to 3.
And honestly number four is too high for Mitch. He was my favorite of the quarterbacks. Once he was gone all the rest might as well have been 4th round picks. And Mitch himself probably only worth a 3rd.
And it doesn't matter now.
WSS
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??? Decoder ring is in the shop for repair...
Sorry Bud. Between the eyes and too lazy to check the speech to text glitches sometimes this crap gets by me.
The hypothetical jaguars pick trade down to four. Which wouldn't have mattered since the bears traded up to 3.
And honestly number four is too high for Mitch. He was my favorite of the quarterbacks. Once he was gone all the rest might as well have been 4th round picks. And Mitch himself probably only worth a 3rd.
And it doesn't matter now.
WSS
Sorry Bud. Between the eyes and too lazy to check the speech to text glitches sometimes this crap gets by me.
The hypothetical jaguars pick trade down to four. Which wouldn't have mattered since the bears traded up to 3.
And honestly number four is too high for Mitch. He was my favorite of the quarterbacks. Once he was gone all the rest might as well have been 4th round picks. And Mitch himself probably only worth a 3rd.
And it doesn't matter now.
No problem, my friend...
Prelim plan being formualted to slide thru CLE last half of June. So will need your play dates...
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Sorry Bud. Between the eyes and too lazy to check the speech to text glitches sometimes this crap gets by me.
The hypothetical jaguars pick trade down to four. Which wouldn't have mattered since the bears traded up to 3.
And honestly number four is too high for Mitch. He was my favorite of the quarterbacks. Once he was gone all the rest might as well have been 4th round picks. And Mitch himself probably only worth a 3rd.
And it doesn't matter now.
No problem, my friend...
Prelim plan being formualted to slide thru CLE last half of June. So will need your play dates...
Not sure if you are to grubby to use facebook but there is westside steve simmons.No problem, my friend...
Prelim plan being formualted to slide thru CLE last half of June. So will need your play dates...
Or Steve W Simmons My regular facebook page.
www.westsidesteve.com
Has the schedule but the Facebook pages are easier to update quickly.
WSS
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Not sure if you are to grubby to use facebook but there is westside steve simmons.No problem, my friend...
Prelim plan being formualted to slide thru CLE last half of June. So will need your play dates...
Or Steve W Simmons My regular facebook page.
www.westsidesteve.com
Has the schedule but the Facebook pages are easier to update quickly.
WSS
Not sure if you are to grubby to use facebook but there is westside steve simmons.
Or Steve W Simmons My regular facebook page.
www.westsidesteve.com
Has the schedule but the Facebook pages are easier to update quickly.
I have used fb... at least three times in three years... but prefer its stock...
I'll check it out, tho...
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@ghoolie said:
WOW, analytics..............by this chart you all agree with me. Paxton Lynch WAS the pick.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=15289804
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000639254/Paxton-Lynch-shows-off-his-moves-hand-size
At 5 inches taller than MT I would expect him to have bigger hands. I think though, that I heard that Kizers hand measurement was over 11 inches.
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After the incredible backlash against Trubisky, I get the feeling that he will be successful and this will be one of those "look how little we knew" moments. Oh well, it's funny for now.
After the incredible backlash against Trubisky, I get the feeling that he will be successful and this will be one of those "look how little we knew" moments. Oh well, it's funny for now.
Don't use the word "We". "You" perhaps.
I think he will have a good career. Best thing is that the Browns would only face him once every 4 years.
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After the incredible backlash against Trubisky, I get the feeling that he will be successful and this will be one of those "look how little we knew" moments. Oh well, it's funny for now.
Don't use the word "We". "You" perhaps.
I think he will have a good career. Best thing is that the Browns would only face him once every 4 years.
Don't use the word "We". "You" perhaps.
I think he will have a good career. Best thing is that the Browns would only face him once every 4 years.
I like Trubisky as a prospect who has a lot of good traits.
I know it doesn't always seem like it because he isn't "sure thing" enough to offset how fun it is to troll the people who think he's a lock to be the next Dan Marino.
I know you don't care that he only started 13 games, but there are plenty of examples of prospects looking great for one season, and we just drafted one of them. Trubisky made just as many mental errors as Kizer, and maybe he moves past that at the next level, but it's just as likely that the NFL breaks him.
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How many guys have had superstar junior seasons and then completely disappeared??.....the list is 100 miles long.....
....and EXACTLY the reason that, every year, the actual draft isnt even close to the preseason top prospect list.....
One year of production(with any player) makes me nervous.....at least when your talking high first round picks(or many of em)...
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